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Old 07-07-2010, 10:53 AM   #1
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Interior Water issues HELP

Okay so I have a 2010 Rubicon unlimited. - And I have to say I LOVE IT

I have the Hard Top for now - Yes I have taken it off the wife and I love to drive her naked.

With the weather turning to crap here lately here in Houston I have had the top on for the last two weeks or so.

This morning I decided to drive her to work because of the weather and notice a puddle; not damp carpet; a freakin puddle of water on the passenger floor board. So the question

How in the HELL did so much water get inside my brand new less than 2500 miles, insanely priced RUBICON. And how can I prevent it from happening.

It would be one thing if I got caught in a Texas storm while topless, or tried to cross a damn bayou, something but I have not had her off rode in for a week now and I can say for certain there was NO water in her.

Any help is greatly appreciated

I have seen a few posts about this. interms of drying it out ect. but what I am hoping to find out is where is it coming from and how can I prevent it

Thanks in advance

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...the wife and I love to drive her naked.
Is this legal?

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Old 07-07-2010, 11:05 AM   #3
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Is this legal?
Hell yes then we slap her on the A$$ once or twice just for good measure
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:13 AM   #4
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Its almost like the nature of the beast. It happens in mine as well. Ive rhinolined with no plugs so it just empties out but, i have no clue where it comes from.
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I have heard that in TJ's there is some sort of line that will get clogged with leaves and stuff, causing water to drain into the floorboards. I cannot remember exactly what this is and if it also applies to the JK
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OK, I feel your pain. My Sahara Unlimited 08 was delivered to me with a leaking top. Chrysler worked on it A LOT. They now own it...again. Don't ask me the details of the buyback cause I can't talk about it. But I can talk about a leaking hard top in general. When I took delivery of my replacement Rubicon Unlimited, IT LEAKED IN THE SAME PLACE, but not for the same reason...go figure. The dealership solved the leak on the second try.

I have now taken my hard top off and put it back on several times and it still doesn't leak. Here are some of the problem areas. When I put the hard top back on I always start with giving it a good wash down with dawn dish-washing detergent in a bucket of water. I pay particular attention to washing all of the seals including the ones you can't see that seal the top to the tub. I hit the seals with a stream of water from the nozzle of the spray attachment on the hose. I wouldn't recommend a power washer for this because the force of a power washer is probably enough to unglue the seals from the top. When assembling, as I put the pieces on I give every part a little jimmy to "feel" and make sure that the seal is contacting the hard parts of the jeep. With the freedom top as I place them I watch how it lands into position, look at the seams to see if they look right, jimmy it around a little to see that it settles in and then begin fastening it in working from front to back. The last fasteners that I put in are the screws.

If you have been careful on the assembly and it is still leaking what I would do with it is to try cleaning the seals with a product like Liquid Ice interior cleaner. It not only cleans the seals but also leaves them somewhat lubricated. Makes them look and feel like new. I would also clean the parts that they mate up with using the same stuff. And see if that holds water out. When all is assembled have someone outside hit the suspected problem area with a stream from a garden hose attachment. Watch inside to see if you can detect water coming in. If it is still leaking bring it back to the dealer and show them the puddled water in the passenger side. Be sure they write it up on a normal service ticket. You will need records of what you did to have the dealer resolve the issue if you plan on moving forward with the issue some time down the road with Chrysler.

Best of luck solving your leak problem.
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JK'n Thanks much

Based on the "Don't ask me the details" I assume you have had an unpleasant experience with the Chrysler Motor Corporation.

I hope this does not turn out to be a case of that but, If I had spent this much cash on a don't shoot me folks. a "Ford" "Chevy" or "Toyota" truck and I had this much water in it with less than 2500 miles. I think it would a much different conversation.

Lots of car manufactures make convertible vehicles that don't leak like this so why do us JEEPERS say \ feel \ think "Its almost like the nature of the beast" AND ACCEPT IT
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The Wrangler is not a "convertible vehicle". It's a topless vehicle that can be equipped with either a hard or soft temporary top. There is probably an issue with the way you put the top back on. Follow what jk'n said to see if it helps.
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dagg066 - Sorry DAWG did not mean to offend :-) with the "convertable" statement.

It was the first word that came to mind while typing the response

I will most definitely try JK'n recommendation that was the reason I posted the request for help
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JK'n Thanks much

Based on the "Don't ask me the details" I assume you have had an unpleasant experience with the Chrysler Motor Corporation.

I hope this does not turn out to be a case of that but, If I had spent this much cash on a don't shoot me folks. a "Ford" "Chevy" or "Toyota" truck and I had this much water in it with less than 2500 miles. I think it would a much different conversation.

Lots of car manufactures make convertible vehicles that don't leak like this so why do us JEEPERS say \ feel \ think "Its almost like the nature of the beast"
Let me first say that...believe it or not...Chrysler made a satisfied customer out of me.

Lets start with my dealer: Bertera Dodge of Westfield. I don't always agree with everything they say but we have always worked our disagreement through. Occasionally we may end up agreeing to disagree but they have made me feel that they listen to what I have to say and when they are wrong they fix it. I have called Chrysler a few times and they have come across after the phone call after they (I'm guessing) are reminded of Chrysler policy or rules. My feeling on that is that you can't get it right all the time and that is why Chrysler has a customer service line. It has worked well for me. This is my 4th vehicle in a row with Bertera. They don't pay me to say nice things about them. Buying a car is a process. It is not always me getting my way. Sometimes it just requires the right explanation from them. During the issues with my leak, my dealership was stellar with working with me to try and make it right.

Chrysler only got involved at the very end of the process and declared it a buyback. The only thing I can't talk about is the "financial" aspects of the buyback...you know...the give and take of the deal. I signed a statement that I wouldn't and so I don't. When I say that they made a satisfied customer out of me it means simply that the new jeep that I got works as stated regarding leaking. Does it hold all leaks out? NO. When it does leak I am able to figure out what I did wrong and correct it. Then no leaks. There is basically no issue with the car parts it is more of an owner issue. Since I've had it now for almost two years, they would not treat me the same now if it developed a leak as they did with a leaking roof right out of the box, new. There is so much surface area with these things that has to hold water out that I know, eventually, it is going to leak somewhere. Using common sense and possibly posting on this forum, I will hopefully get it to stop leaking. These are two different situations. Since yours is brand new, I would tend to work with the dealer. Remember...every visit...get a record of the complaint and the dealer action to fix it on the service repair ticket. That would be my advice to you. Again, best of luck.
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Well Wrote and really glad to hear a good out come. I have see and heard to many horror stories

I bet your right and it is owner error. but at least I got a little something to try to resolve the issue myself. I am not one to per say cause any issues if it is my error. so I will pull her into the garage this afternoon and try what you said and see what I get.

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dagg066 - Sorry DAWG did not mean to offend :-) with the "convertable" statement.

It was the first word that came to mind while typing the response

I will most definitely try JK'n recommendation that was the reason I posted the request for help
It's all good. I'm glad you took it in the sense it was meant. You'll fit in fine around here! Be careful with jk'n. As you can see, I gave him just the slightest encouragement and he was good for another 500 words.

If you want to have some real fun, grab a nice cigar and a couple beers (you'll be reading for a while) and ask him what he thinks of the Jeep wave.
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It's all good. I'm glad you took it in the sense it was meant. You'll fit in fine around here! Be careful with jk'n. As you can see, I gave him just the slightest encouragement and he was good for another 500 words.

If you want to have some real fun, grab a nice cigar and a couple beers (you'll be reading for a while) and ask him what he thinks of the Jeep wave.
daggo, now that was funny!

Believe it or not, I have that kind of reputation in person too. When I speak at the ham radio club that I belong to at a monthly meeting people jokingly make the comment have we paid the rent for the hall, what time are we paid up to. And so on. I think it is pretty funny. As a teacher you have to be able to speak in front of people at length AND be funny and entertaining. I guess it is difficult to sometimes step out of the classroom.

You are astute!


P.S. I had to delete some of your smileys cause I hit the limit and couldn't post it!
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Hey Hey you better watch it there buddy. Who you calling a stute?
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@ TOW69

Look what you have to put up with around here to be helpful!

Sorry for getting off topic.

Let us know how you make out on the leak.

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