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Old 12-02-2013, 08:24 PM   #1
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Is a Rubicon overkill ???

Getting redi to pull the trigger on a wrangler and I really want a rubicon. Ill be replacing SXS s or utv s. as I've been riding hem since 06. I like to trail ride through rough terrain so I don't want to sell my self short. I had a 04 wrangler with 35's and a five speed. It was not regeared so it was jumpy in high range. Do you guys recommend a manual or automatic?

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Old 12-02-2013, 08:50 PM   #2
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Nope and the last question personal preference

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way to sneak in another manual vs auto thread in

Go manual, You will be bored with a slushbox
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Ha ha I like a manual because that'll keep the wifey from taking over it. I have a seventeen old son that'll be bad enough.
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I don't like how the automatic shifts
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I feel that 99% of the rubi owners use the rubi goodies 1% of the time so go with something you can use most of the time
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LSD + BLD > Lockers for daily driver road use. Lockers are invaluable when they are needed though. You don't get LSD with a Rubicon.
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I feel that 99% of the rubi owners use the rubi goodies 1% of the time so go with something you can use most of the time
That's what I'm trying to decide. I like to get in some rough terrain and when I used my SXS they had all four pulling. Kinda like that insurance.
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I would have gone with a Sahara, but I did not want body colored fenders and top so I went with Rubicon. Overkill? Yes, for what I will use it for most of the time, but I have to look at everyday. And I like the look of the black fenders and top.
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LSD + BLD > Lockers for daily driver road use. Lockers are invaluable when they are needed though. You don't get LSD with a Rubicon.
Ok what's LSD and bld ?
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:38 PM   #12
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Rubi if you will use it, and once you get it, you will want to use it! Auto is the way to go in a jeep. It isn't a sports car, and the auto is superior offroad.
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Limited Slip Differential and Brake Lock Differential.
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I feel that 99% of the rubi owners use the rubi goodies 1% of the time so go with something you can use most of the time

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Old 12-02-2013, 09:45 PM   #15
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Rubicon, overkill? No. Just the right amount of kill. Perfectkill.

Love that 4:1 tcase, 4.10s and factory elockers. Mostly that transfer case, though...

And manual vs auto? Personal preference. There are pros and cons both on and off road, we could go on ALL DAY about it
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Overkill? don't know...depends on how you will use it.

Auto vs manual....up to you.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:50 PM   #17
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If you can afford a Rubi, get one!

I wanted one but couldn't throw down the change. Even 2007/2008 Rubis here are going for $28,000+...I got my Sport for $21,900, still a bit more than I wanted to pay, but I'm extremely happy with my Sport.

Are you getting a coupe or a sedan?
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:56 PM   #18
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Lightbulb Lots of threads on this topic.

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Ok what's LSD and bld ?
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Limited Slip Differential and Brake Lock Differential.
In short,

Limited Slip Differential, which keeps traction to both tires and is a passive system. It's always on. Open differential, like on a Rubicon, will allow one wheel to spin if there's no traction.

Brake Lock Differential is part of the traction control system. It seeks to maintain the same speed on both wheels using the Jeep's braking system. It acts like limited slip differential in this respect. It is found on all modern Jeeps.

Both LSD and BLD have thresholds, so at some point the wheel without traction will spin. They are both good systems, and LSD is complimented by BLD in rear traction control, but Jeep's with BLD only are still very capable, like the Rubicon .

Enter Lockers, a locked axle ensures the one wheel with traction gets traction, period. You can't run around on dry pavement with lockers on, you disengage them, and from my understanding only 4 low allows their use. Jeep's with LSD don't have this. Rubicon's are the only model to have it on front and rear axle (to my knowledge), while some special editions have it on the rear axle as an option. In today's offerings, it's either LSD or Locker, but not both.

Both systems are 4wd, very capable off and on road, but the Jeep's with LSD and BLD are typically optimized for road use, while Jeeps with lockers typilcally have lower gearing and are optimized for off road, towing, plowing, etc.

Manual Transmission = Man's Jeep
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Go with the Rubicon if you are going to leave it pretty much stock. It is a lot nicer to have lockers and the rest of the Rubicon goodies straight from the factory. I don't wheel mine real hard but its nice to know you have that capability just in case.
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Yep, as others have said, it's all about personal preference. I was looking at Sahara FOR the body-colored fenders and hardtop, but then I found the '12 Rubicon came with those. I also wanted the automatic since it's not a sports car. Works great off-road, plus the auto is better for towing when I need it. Probably the biggest Rubicon advantages if you ever needed them are the lockers and the Rock-Trac NV241 4:1 transfer case.
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In my opinion if you can afford a Rubicon you might as well get a sport and drop in the money you would have spent getting the rubicon on mods.
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Getting redi to pull the trigger on a wrangler and I really want a rubicon. Ill be replacing SXS s or utv s. as I've been riding hem since 06. I like to trail ride through rough terrain so I don't want to sell my self short. I had a 04 wrangler with 35's and a five speed. It was not regeared so it was jumpy in high range. Do you guys recommend a manual or automatic?
If you are switching from a Side x Side to a Jeep, get the Rubi. It will be better suited for the aggressive style of off-roading that you are accustomed to. The wife and I switched from the SxS to our Jeep a few years ago and have no regrets going with the rubi. As for the auto v manual, good luck with that one. We got the auto and love it, but I can't count the number of times I've gone outside and discovered the Jeep had been hijacked by the wife.
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Rubicon, overkill? No. Just the right amount of kill. Perfectkill.

Love that 4:1 tcase, 4.10s and factory elockers. Mostly that transfer case, though...

And manual vs auto? Personal preference. There are pros and cons both on and off road, we could go on ALL DAY about it

LOVE the 4:1 tcase... the control it gives you crawling over difficult obstacles then combine that with a manual (personal preference) and it's a win win! You can put lockers on a Sahara but you still won't have the 4:1 tcase which is priceless!!!! Never underestimate the benefit of being geared low! Regarding the lockers, not sure about the JK's but on my TJ there is a bypass you can do that allows use of lockers in 4HI. Simple as a vampire splice...
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I view my Rubicon's features like a bullet proof vest. I hope I don't need them but they are nice to have if I do.
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Get the Rubicon. It sounds to me that you'll likely regret it later if you don't. Is it overkill for me. Abso-freakin-lutely. Would I have it any other way? Nope!
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I view my Rubicon's features like a bullet proof vest. I hope I don't need them but they are nice to have if I do.
I feel like walking around in a bullet proof vest all the time either means you are a cop, super paranoid, or are living the wrong life in the wrong area....
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A Rubicon is not overkill if you like it.
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I feel like walking around in a bullet proof vest all the time either means you are a cop, super paranoid, or are living the wrong life in the wrong area....
No, I have no law enforcement affiliation. But I do live close enough to some bad areas and I am most certainly paranoid! Those lockers will come in handy when the zombie horde blocks the road or when FEMA decides to shut down the highways.
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Dude the whole zombie thing is really played out. Move on
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Dude the whole zombie thing is really played out. Move on
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