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Old 03-23-2012, 10:48 PM   #1
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Is Synthetic Winch Rope Worth The Cost?

I'm looking at getting a Warn M8000 winch. Warn offers the M8000 with the 100' wire rope, and they now have a M8000-S with Spydura Synthetic Rope....Same winch, different rope.

The kicker is that the model with synthetic rope is approximately $400 more expensive....I've found the M8000-S on WarnFactoryOutlet.com for cheaper (about $870), but that's still about $300 more expensive...

I know synthetic rope is stronger and lighter, but is it really worth that kind of extra expense? The M8000-S is ~19 lbs lighter than the wire rope alternative, so you're looking at paying about $16 per pound you save!

Let me know what ya'll think...

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Old 03-23-2012, 11:04 PM   #2
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I just ordered the M8000 with the synthetic rope. Every pound saved on the already heavy jeep is worth it to me.
Also, it would be much safer if/when it breaks.

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Old 03-23-2012, 11:15 PM   #3
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I have been looking to. There are some pretty good deals on other winches with synthetic rope. Not Warn. You might look at other brands. Have you ever seen a wire cable snap, very scary and very dangerous.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:25 PM   #4
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Just for safety if nothing else go for the synthetic. Just try to shield from the sun as uv will decrease its life. Haven't bought one in a while but when I got mine there was a decent difference in load rating for approx. same sized cable. I think the synthetic was about 30% higher on its rating. Ymmv. Also no need to worry about frayed cables and no gloves.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:43 PM   #5
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You can find 100' of synthetic cable for less than $300 - $400. Get the winch with the steel line, get synthetic line, sell the unused steel line to someone...
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:33 AM   #6
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duffyc04 checkout arb bull bumpers they have a deal buy any arb bull bumper and get 8k xrc smittybilt pro comp w/ synn rope i believe for $99 i have smittybilt 8k xrc and its a great winch from what ive read and whats on smittybilts box I got is that the synn is 45% stronger than steel cable and 30lbs lighter according to MFR good luck joe
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:36 AM   #7
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me and my brother that has the same winch used it to pull a f250 flatbed powerstroke that was buried to the frame out and it did not even groan
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Lightbulb

I have the Warn M8000 and they sell a winch cover (which I have) that will protect your "Syn-rope" from the elements

I do though, have the steel cable
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the advice....I know synthetic is safer...but couldn't I get the same safety by buying a winch cable damper for about $40?
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:32 PM   #10
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Really for me, the selling point (as mentioned by some else above) is the weight savings
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Thanks for all the advice....I know synthetic is safer...but couldn't I get the same safety by buying a winch cable damper for about $40?
Yup. You should use a cable damper either way, synthetic or wire. But if $$'s an issue (can't imagine it would be ), I'd just go with a wire cable for now, and then switch it out to synthetic when it wears out, like Joe said.

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Really for me, the selling point (as mentioned by some else above) is the weight savings
Me too.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:20 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the advice....I know synthetic is safer...but couldn't I get the same safety by buying a winch cable damper for about $40?
For a damper use a blanket or towel or floor mat or the bag you keep your recovery gear in.
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:09 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the advice....I know synthetic is safer...but couldn't I get the same safety by buying a winch cable damper for about $40?
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Yup. You should use a cable damper either way, synthetic or wire. :
Actually, no ... you cannot get the same safety with a cable dampener on a wire rope compared to an 'un-dampened' synthetic rope. The amount of kinetic energy in a loaded wire rope is HUGE compared to synthetic line. Wire rope is still wayyy more dangerous even with the dampener. Even with the dampener in place, the wire rope still has the same amount of stored energy and you're effectively only dampening "one" of the two broken pieces of wire after it breaks. The 'other' piece of broken wire is still gonna rip backwards towards it's attachment. At that point, you're just hoping the dampener is closest to you instead of the break.

Think of the difference between what happens when you break a guitar string versus what happens when you break a piece of thicker thread ... the guitar string lets go with wayyy more force because it's heavier. It's the same idea with wire vs. synthetic.

Also, if the synthetic line does break, you can easily splice it back together while on the trail (just need a couple of pieces of tape and, ideally, something to measure with) - that's not happening with wire.

Then there's the handling ... while I think its a good idea to always where gloves when handling rope, you definitely want to with wire with the small burrs that develop over time. Sometimes they'll even poke through leather gloves ... that's not gonna happen with synthetic line.

So, to answer the OP's question ... yes, IMHO, it is well worth the money in safety, ease of use, and in ease of repair if something goes wrong with the line. You do have to watch abrasion on the rocks with the syn-line, though.

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