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Old 07-14-2011, 10:40 AM   #1
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Is the Rubicon worth the extra money?

So I was set on a 2011 Sahara but for $700 more I can get a Rubicon (with all the same stuff)...is it worth the extra $$$? I am going for a test drive today...love the look and pretty excited about it. What do you guys think?

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YES! There is no way (Trust me, I know) that you can add the things a Rubicon has to another Jeep for that little money. If you plan on wheeling it at all you'll love the lockers. As an example, I have a 2000 Sport. I bought it a little over a year ago and thought I couldn't afford a Rubicon. A year later I've spent 8K on upgrades ($1900 of which was for lockers, which are standard on a Rubi.). It'll be cheaper in the long run if you pony up the money now. I can't believe it's only 700 more.

BTW, my next Wrangler purchase will be a Rubicon.

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Normally, I would say a Rubicon is not worth it unless you plan on rock crawling but for only $700 difference it is more then worth it. Sahara's are becoming way over valued because of their bling and even though they are just as capable as a Sport their painted fenders are a detriment on the trail. There should be no reason any model comes close to a Rubicon because it's value lies in it's 4:10 transfer case, 4:10 gears, electronic disconnects, and lockers. It would cost 8 to 10 thousand to add these items later. So anytime you can basically get them for $700 then it would be hard to turn them down.
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Buying a Rubi, vs an X/Sport/Sahara-is PURELY PERSONAL CHOICE-


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So I was set on a 2011 Sahara but for $700 more I can get a Rubicon (with all the same stuff)...is it worth the extra $$$? I am going for a test drive today...love the look and pretty excited about it. What do you guys think?
Like Buying a Corvette vs Camaro, or Tahoe vs a FX 4x4-

If you have to ask opinion on YOUR purchase !--you don't need a Rubicon !!

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Old 07-14-2011, 11:02 AM   #5
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Its ALWAYS worth it because it will ALWAYS be worth more on the resale end
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:04 AM   #6
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I'm biased as a 2011 Rubi owner, but the lockers alone make it worth a bit extra. I followed a guy with 35s around a trail and when we came to a pile of rubble, he had to take a few shots at it until he had the traction while I never spun a wheel with my stock Rubi. If you're going to be on a trail, the painted fenders won't be pretty after too long. I've rubbed a few trees and you can't tell.

I always hear on various forums how the Sport/X vs. Rubi isn't worth it because you can "turn a Sport/X into a better trail machine than the Rubi for less money", but for me, I don't have the time to put into wrenching or the money to pay someone else to do it all and pick the right things.

. I started out shopping for a Sahara, but after driving and comparing the Rubi vs. Sahara side-by-side, I was sold on my Rubi.
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:07 AM   #7
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Come on, are you kidding? Of course the Rubicon is better, hands down (off road), especially for a lousy $700.
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Thanks all for the responses! I am sorry for the silly questions but I am an uber newb and don't know shit...that's why instead of asking the dealer (who also doesn't know shit) I knew I had to have it come from the experts..you guys! Much appreciated as always guys, really.
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One other thing people aren't mentioning, YOU GET A DANA 44 UP FRONT!! That was important for me since in my '07 JK Sahara busted a half shaft since my Wife drove it in 4-high on dry pavement for a week! (which I was away )
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I was going to say only if you are going to use all the above mentioned goodies after reading the title of the thread. Now after seeing that it's only $700, it's a no brainer even if you don't get it dirty. Especially since you are already looking at the more expensive models already.
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:30 AM   #12
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Been asked and debated many times.

This should get you started:

(1) rubicon advantage?

(2) I was intent on a new Rubicon, now not so sure.

(3) Want to convert "Sport" to "Rubicon" Help!

(4) sport vs. rubicon
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Its not a silly question if you dont know. Every one of us started out not knowing shit. We just sometimes forget that part. Good luck on your purchase, whatever it is.
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One other thing people aren't mentioning, YOU GET A DANA 44 UP FRONT!! That was important for me since in my '07 JK Sahara busted a half shaft since my Wife drove it in 4-high on dry pavement for a week! (which I was away )

I highly doubt that would have saved you.
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I highly doubt that would have saved you.
That probably the case. But it was a good excuse to get the Rubicon
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Get the rubicon. u'll probably b able to get it cheaper that the asking price so you wont even b paying the extra 700$
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Even if you don't wheel it much, it's still worth it. Especially if you ever decide to resell it.
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That probably the case. But it was a good excuse to get the Rubicon
You wouldn't have "accidently" slipped it into 4H before you left would you?
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Normally, I would say a Rubicon is not worth it unless you plan on rock crawling but for only $700 difference it is more then worth it. Sahara's are becoming way over valued because of their bling and even though they are just as capable as a Sport their painted fenders are a detriment on the trail. There should be no reason any model comes close to a Rubicon because it's value lies in it's 4:10 transfer case, 4:10 gears, electronic disconnects, and lockers. It would cost 8 to 10 thousand to add these items later. So anytime you can basically get them for $700 then it would be hard to turn them down.
I ordered 2012 Rubicon; Tan all over; Auto; 3.73 gears (I was going to order 4.10 but the dealership advised me that since it will be a daily car, the 3.73 is just as capable and that it will save me 1 - 2 mpg). What are your thoughts? Is the 3.73 solid enough for off roading or should I get the 4.10?

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I gotta keep up with what options come with what.

Didn't realize that 3.73's were even an option for a Rubi.
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They are standard on the 2012 Rubicon and the 4.10 is option for $50.
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I ordered 2012 Rubicon; Tan all over; Auto; 3.73 gears (I was going to order 4.10 but the dealership advised me that since it will be a daily car, the 3.73 is just as capable and that it will save me 1 - 2 mpg). What are your thoughts? Is the 3.73 solid enough for off roading or should I get the 4.10?

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The Rubicon has optional gearsets in 2012? Please (PLEASE!) say it isn't so. If that's the case then it will no longer be a hard and fast rule that a Rubi has 4.10 gears. Oh well, any JK rubi I end up owning will have 5.13s in it shortly anyway...

As to your question. Personally I would want 4.10s.
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. If that's the case then it will no longer be a hard and fast rule that a Rubi has 4.10 gears.

That's what I was thinking.

Def go with the 4:10's
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I ordered 2012 Rubicon; Tan all over; Auto; 3.73 gears (I was going to order 4.10 but the dealership advised me that since it will be a daily car, the 3.73 is just as capable and that it will save me 1 - 2 mpg). What are your thoughts? Is the 3.73 solid enough for off roading or should I get the 4.10?

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The 1-2 mpg really comes down to driver habits. If you get a Rubi you have to get the 4.10. You'll appreciate it even more with an auto.
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I'm going out on a limb here, but maybe 3.73's as much of a sin it would be to have in a Rubi would perform fine in a manual trans with 32" rubber. But, if any chance of increasing up to 35's with manual trans 4.10's should be at least tolerable. Even with stock 32's I wouldn't get the 3.73's with auto trans. JMHO I wish I had 4.10's with my 33's as it only feels like I lost mpg's according to my butt dyno.
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Yea, having had 4.10s in my '08 JKU Rubi I've lived with 4.10s and big 33" tires--a total PITA, O/D is relatively useless around hills and totally useless when towing-

My regearing has solved EVERYTHING !!

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You wouldn't have "accidently" slipped it into 4H before you left would you?
hahaha No I didn't.
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Yea, having had 4.10s in my '08 JKU Rubi I've lived with 4.10s and big 33" tires--a total PITA, O/D is relatively useless around hills and totally useless when towing-

My regearing has solved EVERYTHING !!

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My owners manual says to tow with O/D off. So I wouldn't know even with my inferior 3.73's. But, then I don't have a tranny cooler added on....yet.
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Heh Heh, yea I know, but I have used the O/D pulling my trailer on LEVEL freeway and I've got the aux cooler system pretty will supplied !!


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My owners manual says to tow with O/D off. So I wouldn't know even with my inferior 3.73's. But, then I don't have a tranny cooler added on....yet.
My trailer weighs about 1000 lbs !

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