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Old 10-05-2011, 10:31 AM   #1
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Is this frowned upon in the Jeep Community?

Hey,

I'm new to jeeps. Got a white 2012 wrangler Sahara unlimited. I've always wanted to have black wheels on my jeep. I don't go off road with my jeep and wanted to know if buying new wheels and using the stock tires is frowned upon? Or is this something frequently done.

Just dont want to be a piker! lolol

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Old 10-05-2011, 10:40 AM   #2
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Would say though, it is expensive to keep 18" wheels because the tires are so expensive to replace.

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Old 10-05-2011, 10:42 AM   #3
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It is your ride...do what you want.

But as a suggestion...you might consider painting/bed-lining your stock Sahara rims. That could save you some cash. After seeing the Arctic Edition...(Sahara on black Rubi rims)...I may consider that route myself.
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I'm "considering" doing my stock Sport "S" rims. I'm looking at the bedliner idea. I think I might start with the spare, do that, then install it on one side, do the next, etc.....my painting skill with a 'rattle can' ainn;t exactly the best......so it will be some practice to avoid makig runs.

Its almost deer season here so EVERYTHING in my little world stops until Jan 1 so this is a spring ''12 project. The Black rims really do look great and the Artic edition is FANTASTIC!!!!
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:51 AM   #5
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As stated by rics1997, most people sell the 18" wheels off a Sahara and buy bigger tires with smaller wheels. You'll cut down on your weight and money spent to get bigger tires. You'll also have better backspacing with an aftermarket wheel. Nothing wrong with changing out the wheels you have for a different set and keeping your stock tires however. I did it for about 2 months and that was enough.

Old pic of 255/75/17 SR-As on Ultra motorsport 17x9 wheels.


Same wheels with 255/75/17 Nitto Trail Grapplers
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NOPE, nothing wrong with keeping the stock tires, but

All we frown on, is buying the 2012 jeep !

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Old 10-05-2011, 11:06 AM   #7
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That is what I did, purchased a set of fuel off road wheels (Black) and had the dealer swap over the stock rubber and then had a set of winter blizaks installed on the stock wheels for winter. Rubber is too expensive to go to wast. Once I wear out the stock rubber I plan on going up to 33's.
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So i have been calling around to some powder coating places. I've gotten 2 quotes, one for $750 to have all 5 wheels powder coated then realigned and put back on, then i got another quote for $85 a wheel, but they need to be brought to the place stripped and i'm on my own to have the tires put back on and mounted....do these prices seem right? I can buy new wheels for that price...I'm in North New Jersey, any recommendations?
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search for "bedlined wheels" in this forum, I think you'll find the results much more cost effective
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If you want to have fun and just "test" blacking them out, but a can of Plasti-dip, wax the wheels/tape off the tires and spray. When you're done, you can peel the plasti-dip right off. Look it up on google if you're interested.
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Set it up the way you like but please, no chrome.
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:27 PM   #12
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Don't bother with powdercoating, for that price you'd just buy new wheels. You just want to bedline them, like this.

Alternatively, as others have said, you can certainly buy new wheels for your old tires.

However, as others have also said, tires for 18" wheels tend to be pricey. So overall you may be better off buying new wheels in a smaller size (such as 15" or 16"), getting new tires to go with them, and then selling your stock wheels/tires to recoup some of the cost.
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Would say though, it is expensive to keep 18" wheels because the tires are so expensive to replace.
The gap between 18" & 17" is closing. It is a supply/demand thing. Demand for 18" is up.
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The gap between 18" & 17" is closing. It is a supply/demand thing. Demand for 18" is up.
And you'll get all the weight that comes with 18" tires too.
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And you'll get all the weight that comes with 18" tires too.
Yes you do.

Using my "supply/demand" logic eventually 18" tires will be cheaper because there is less rubber in them. Had this conversation with a friend over massive volumes of draft beer this weekend. He drives a Toyota truck with 20"s.
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Yes you do.

Using my "supply/demand" logic eventually 18" tires will be cheaper because there is less rubber in them. Had this conversation with a friend over massive volumes of draft beer this weekend. He drives a Toyota truck with 20"s.
Hmmmm....interesting theory.....

Both are 32 inch wheels.....both the 18 inch rim DOES have less rubber than the 17 inch rim. I do wonder what the weight difference is....
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Hmmmm....interesting theory.....

Both are 32 inch wheels.....both the 18 inch rim DOES have less rubber than the 17 inch rim. I do wonder what the weight difference is....
Steel weighs more than rubber.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:22 PM   #18
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Steel weighs more than rubber.
Well I figured that much.....
But for real....I wonder what the total weight difference is (including tire) between a Sport S 17 incher, a Sahara 18 incher, and a Rubi 17 incher?
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Well I figured that much.....
But for real....I wonder what the total weight difference is (including tire) between a Sport S 17 incher, a Sahara 18 incher, and a Rubi 17 incher?
I would bet money crown or beer that the rubi 17 inch setup is heavier then the sahara 18 inch setup! As far as cost, I have fords with 17 18 and 20 inch wheels and if you buy let's say Goodyear duratracs, in a load range E they are all expensive and not much difference in price. The 20 inch tires may be just a little higher, but not by much.
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Well I figured that much.....
But for real....I wonder what the total weight difference is (including tire) between a Sport S 17 incher, a Sahara 18 incher, and a Rubi 17 incher?
I've got your 17 incher right here.

To the OP, I would consider Bedlining the stock wheels if you want something to tide you over until those tires wear out. I had duelers on my P/U before I got the jeep and those are very good tires. The 18 inch tires just cost a whole lot more than 15s,16s, or 17s. If you look on Craigslist, you can pick up a set of fairly new tires and wheels off a wrangler for around 500-600. Thats way cheaper than just new 18 inch tires, before mount and balance even.
Here is some info on Bedlining them:
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:01 AM   #22
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What is an expected price to get for the stock 18inch wheels and tires if I were to sell them?
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That depends on your location. I see take offs on the San Diego Craigslist for prices between $350 - $800 per set. The ones at the top of the scale seem to not get sold. It appears that they go for an average of $450.

Here is an ad from today for some 17" bedlined Rubicon wheels ($250 for all 5):
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/pts/2633294738.html
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Anyone in NJ bedline their wheels and want to do mine? I don't have the equiptment or room to do my own. I live in a condo and don't have a garage or the lifts to get the tires off my car?

I'll pay you for your services!!!
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Anyone in NJ bedline their wheels and want to do mine? I don't have the equiptment or room to do my own. I live in a condo and don't have a garage or the lifts to get the tires off my car?

I'll pay you for your services!!!
I did mine in my girlfriends apartment. Here is my write up. It can be done basically with what you should already have.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f118/be...ls-101764.html
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I can vouch for el gringo's right up, his thread is what i used to do mine. i know i wound up doing 3 coats, which took about 3-4 cans of bedliner, but i also suck at spraying so i went on heavy on a few coats. the thing i found took the longest was sanding, just make sure you have a good amount of sandpaper on hand because the finish on the wheels comes off in droves. but using the jack that came with the jeep, just take off the wheels one at a time, sand and paint. recoat, then cure. each wheel might take 2 hours each if youre super paranoid. and hell, you can start sanding while theyre still attached to save time

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