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Old 11-09-2013, 01:50 PM   #1
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is this normal? (battery issue)

So I bought my brand new sahara jk '12 in november 2011. first time i had to change the battery was june 2013. today when im leaving the mall (freedom panels off) the car decides not to start. i call the break down service. while theyre loading the car, the car finally starts! but like when i turn the key i can feel that the battery is very weak and decide to continue loading it on the tow truck and take it to service. part of me was freaking out since i keep my freedom panels at home and it kind of trickled but then stopped.

So is it normal that i had to change my battery 5 months after replacing it with a new one? its under warranty so it didn't bother me alot. i had a new battery within two hours free of charge. just had to pay the break down 30 bucks for the service. my friends who is an expert in jeep and has his own garage said sometimes those things die out after a month. its purely a luck thing.

THEN when the battery was changed and i popped the hood to check it. i read on the mopar battery MADE IN ITALY. as soon i read it, it all started to make sense. italy make cars like fiat. cars that aren't reliable at all. italy makes unreliable crap. only then i felt better knowing that its italys fault and my sahara is just fine

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Old 11-09-2013, 02:34 PM   #2
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those things die out after a month. its purely a luck thing.
If they are defective they do.

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THEN when the battery was changed and i popped the hood to check it. i read on the mopar battery MADE IN ITALY. as soon i read it, it all started to make sense. italy make cars like fiat. cars that aren't reliable at all. italy makes unreliable crap. only then i felt better knowing that its italys fault and my sahara is just fine
Lol... sarcasm or what? Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa Romeo, rings a bell?

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Old 11-09-2013, 02:39 PM   #3
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Fiat owns Chrysler who makes Jeeps. Assume you know that. It sounds like you have an electrical issue or the vehicle is sitting for long periods without use. Your battery shouldn't need external charging ever and should last for years.
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:42 PM   #4
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If they are defective they do.


Lol... sarcasm or what? Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa Romeo, rings a bell?
alfa romeo wins first place in least reliable. with maserati and ferrari, if ur paying all that for a car, they better get it right! keep in mind those two high end cars and not daily drivers, so its hard to really know how reliable they are.
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Fiat owns Chrysler who makes Jeeps. Assume you know that. It sounds like you have an electrical issue or the vehicle is sitting for long periods without use. Your battery shouldn't need external charging ever and should last for years.
my jeep is a DD. if this happens again before next november i'll assume its an electrical problem and let them take a look at it.
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:49 PM   #6
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Load it on a truck for a battery????? It's a jeep. Go down to the parts store get a optima yellow top. Plop it in and go wheeling. I don't understand the issue????
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:51 PM   #7
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my jeep is a DD. if this happens again before next november i'll assume its an electrical problem and let them take a look at it.
It is not an electrical issue... They use sealed lead acid they wear out fast. Here in Az new batteries only last on average 2 years out here. Gel. Batteries are the way to go.
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Load it on a truck for a battery????? It's a jeep. Go down to the parts store get a optima yellow top. Plop it in and go wheeling. I don't understand the issue????
I read ur post 3 times and i don't understand anything.

The battery died. what do u suggest i do? push it all the way to service? What does it being a jeep have to do with anything. I think i will be buying one of those battery starters if its not too expensive.

lastly. are u high?
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Go buy a battery and put it in. Really you don't understand that? Sorry I could not be clearer.
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It is not an electrical issue... They use sealed lead acid they wear out fast. Here in Az new batteries only last on average 2 years out here. Gel. Batteries are the way to go.
im guessing qatar and arizona wheather is very similar. only difference u might not have as much humidity. but i'll look into those gel batteries. still under warranty so dunno if service shop has any, or if i'll have to go somewhere else to find them
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Go buy a battery and put it in. Really you don't understand that? Sorry I could not be clearer.
car broke down at 3pm. break down was loading car by 3:20. was at service shop by 3:45. had a new battery by 4:30. the whole thing cost me 30 bucks. the battery is UNDER WARRANTY. it was replaced for FREE.

again. are you high?
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Go buy a battery and put it in. Really you don't understand that? Sorry I could not be clearer.
Here let me clarify... Service will but the same substandard battery back in. This is a common issue especially jeeps ( as mentioned it's owned by Fiat). Or u can break the cycle. It's your choice.
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Here let me clarify... Service will but the same substandard battery back in. This is a common issue especially jeeps ( as mentioned it's owned by Fiat). Or u can break the cycle. It's your choice.
ill break the cycle once my 3 years warranty are over.

thanks for your help.
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car broke down at 3pm. break down was loading car by 3:20. was at service shop by 3:45. had a new battery by 4:30. the whole thing cost me 30 bucks. the battery is UNDER WARRANTY. it was replaced for FREE. again. are you high?
So this will be my last post to you as you are being very rude. You asked we responded trying to be helpful instead you insult by asking if I am "high".

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So this will be my last post to you as you are being very rude. You asked we responded trying to be helpful instead you insult by asking if I am "high".

Good luck !
when was asking if someone was high an insult?

who is "WE"? its more like "ME" buddy.
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In the motorcycle world they use a more heavy duty battery that can take vibration and not break down. I wonder if you do a lot of wheeling does this cause a Jeep battery to fail?
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:45 PM   #17
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when was asking if someone was high an insult?

who is "WE"? its more like "ME" buddy.

J708 ....... Personally, I think you are way out of line insinuating that someone is high or asking someone here if they are "high". Consider working on your people skills.
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Go buy a battery and put it in. Really you don't understand that? Sorry I could not be clearer.

Yes, kind of nonsensical to flat tow a vehicle to the shop when you know all it needs is a new battery. I would have pulled the battery and had a relative drive me to the dealer and had them swap out the battery. Then would have taken the battery to the truck.. I would not have paid a towing fee.... an absolute waste of $ to do so.
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Carry a pair of jumper cables if your concerned about the replacement OEM battery going South.

I'd also suggest you carry your Freedom panels in the Jeep if you're worried about it getting wet when your away from home. My Freedom panels came with a bag that allows them to be easily stored upright against the rear seat so they don't take much room.
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Yes, kind of nonsensical to flat tow a vehicle to the shop when you know all it needs is a new battery. I would have pulled the battery and had a relative drive me to the dealer and had them swap out the battery. Then would have taken the battery to the truck.. I would not have paid a towing fee.... an absolute waste of $ to do so.
For 30 bucks why do i have to bother anyone ? I don't like asking people for favors if something doesn't cost alot. I had a new battery in my car 90 minutes after it died. Waste of money or waste of time?
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my jeep is a DD. if this happens again before next november i'll assume its an electrical problem and let them take a look at it.
That's fine. You might also want to have your alternator tested. Some shops will do it for free. It could save you more grief. You might also have an intermittent short that's draining the battery. The people saying battery failure after a year or two is normal, even for jeeps (where sealed batteries are fairly immune to vibration), are not normal.
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It is not an electrical issue... They use sealed lead acid they wear out fast. Here in Az new batteries only last on average 2 years out here. Gel. Batteries are the way to go.
What are some gel batteries to look at? My Mustang ate about a battery every 2-3 years average.
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The Optima's used to be THE battery of choice. I had a yellow top in the TJ for years, and I used it a lot - often I left the key in acc mode and ran the radio the entire 8 hour shift I had and then drove home. I did this for years on that battery and it never failed.

I heard later they shifted production and there were some issues, but mine was an early battery. Just a few months ago I had the battery crap out in the JKU, it was leaking everywhere (I need my brake line replaced from rust due to the liquid dripping down it). I decided to give Optima another shot and picked up a Yellow Top. I don't have the exact same job as I did back then, but there are days I run it in acc mode for hours to listen to the radio still. I just finished a three week shift of 10.5 hour shifts, I ran the radio during my shift and never had an issue.

I couldn't kill the TJ's Yellow Top, I don't know what it would take or how low it ever got. It went with the TJ when it was traded in - it was purchased as a factory blem in 2009, so I used it about three years.

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