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Old 03-25-2014, 02:51 PM   #1
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Is this safe?

I've had my jeep a few months now and I gotta tell you, I'm having a blast!! The more I go out, the more adventurous I get. Just wondering if this is safe? Other jeeps wouldn't cross it but I couldn't resist
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:54 PM   #2
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as long as the water is above your hood and out of your intake you should be good.

might want to replace your diff fluid after a crossing that deep.

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Old 03-25-2014, 02:56 PM   #3
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Hell no your crazy! There's a reason others wouldn't cross your going to suck all kinds of water into your engine and ruin it. If your going to be doing any kind of stuff like that invest in a snorkel.
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If it's a manual, don't push your clutch. Also, look at extending your breather tubes (use a little google-fu and you'll find all about it).
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Is it safe? Not the best question have to ask Risk vs. Gain, not knowing the depth of it I would not of done it. But as long as the water does not come above the top of my tires I will cross it if I know the area, slower speed and keep moving.

That is just my opinion, I do not look for water to cross I try to avoid it, but if I am on the trail and it requires crossing water as long as it is not to deep, I will. but I typically leave most water crossings to a boat.
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That looks to be right at the limit of "safe". As others have said, I would extend the breather hoses and change out the diff fluid, but IMO, as long as the water is not completely over the front bumper, you are OK. The air filter is a good bit higher than that so no worries of hydrolock, unless a wave rolls over your hood.
Edit...I wouldn't go through that until I saw someone else do it first. LOL!
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Way to tough to say if is it safe or not.

Did you know the depth?
Was the water moving?
How fast where you going?
How long where you in the water? 10 seconds? 10 minutes?
Did you follow the owners manual? (Where you in 2WD, 4H or 4L?)

I've gone through +60 yards of 20-24 incht deep standing water....at a crawl. No issues. The key is to go slow (but don't stop) and don't make a wake or splash water up....especially on the right side of your vehicle because that is where your intake is at.

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Tough to tell from PIC, and maybe it is an old man being a worry wart, my biggest concern would be going "upstream" (?) chance for a drop off/ or hole in the creek/ stream/ river bed......I wouldn't do that...have seen too many vids and pics of people being pulled out after hydrolocking their Jeep......unless you "walked it" first?

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The dangerous part isn't what it could do to your Jeep, it's what it could do to you. Unless you are 100% sure how deep that is, you should avoid or go around, especially if it's moving water. You hit a hole and you might find yourself underwater trying to figure out how to wiggle out of your seat belt while holding your breath. Moving water, even slow moving water, can sweep your Jeep away and you with it. It takes less that you think.

Even if that doesn't happen, you suck water into your intake and you might get to buy a shiny new engine. You've got electrical connections, your transmission, differentials, all manner of seals on your axles, engine, etc. under water. No big deal usually when it's just spray off the road of a couple of inches but even a couple of feet of water might put enough pressure on things that weren't designed to take the pressure. Water resistant isn't waterproof.
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Thanks for the input. Sounds like it was a bad idea lol. That's why I never got a motorcycle because I like to push the limits a little LOL. Well she's still running fine, haven't noticed any problems (yet).
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Safe, or not, is not a question for any of us to comment on!

Our Wranglers are designed to go through 30 inches of water at a given slow speed.
But if you are trying to cross a river with 30 inches of water, or even less, and if there is a strong current, then good bye...........
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No waves or current. Safe or not, it was fun!!
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Bah, it isn't "safe" to get out of bed in the morning. Accept the risks going in, have fun, and try to keep the greasy side down.
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I would not, unless I say had no other option to escape a 20 foot man-eating crocodile that was following me and the Jeep was my only chance of survival. Other than sucking in water where it shouldnt be, water more than a few inches scares me more than boulder size rocks - rocks you can see, water you never know what is underneath or where there is a dropoff.
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I've had my jeep a few months now and I gotta tell you, I'm having a blast!! The more I go out, the more adventurous I get. Just wondering if this is safe? Other jeeps wouldn't cross it but I couldn't resist
Well I'm not sure what to say, jbattle. You've only had your jeep for a few months and have pushed it probably more than I ever would mine. I respect that. But at the same time Jeeps are replaceable and you are not. There's something to be said for walking the edge. Daredevils usually live fast, die young, and have a good looking corpse. Go for it, dude, if that's what floats your boat. I myself, would walk any crossing I was about to make and not do it if it crossed two and a half feet. But I have to admit...I am impressed with your lassaiz-faire attitude.
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The 30 inch number is for a stock JK so you can't really say 30 inches will wash one away. As far as the strong current goes........ if its strong enough 1 inch of water could wash one away.

Im not big on water crossing but I have done a dozen or so deep crossing. One time with the doors off the current was fairly strong and floated the floor mats out in the blink of an eye. Not sure how deep it was but the water was a few inches over the bottom of the door jambs.

So 35/36 inches maybe. Point is that their is no set depth of how deep you want to go. It depends on a lot of things, hight of the jeep being one of them.
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Watch this then ask yourself again. And he HAD a snorkel!


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That's not too bad....you can still see the tops of the tires.

Water crossings are fun but they do wreak havoc with electronics...I took my TJ in the water a fair amount, the problem is that eventually you will develop "ghosts within the machine". I ended up selling my TJ because of it.



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Watch this then ask yourself again. And he HAD a snorkel!

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Apparently he did a piss pore job of sealing the snorkel off. They are pointless and just for show if not sealed properly.
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Lets also keep in mind that a water crossing and bailing off in a mud hole are two different things.
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Ask your Insurance Company that question. Make sure they see the pic. I dare ya. I double dare ya. I triple dare ya.
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Lets also keep in mind that a water crossing and bailing off in a mud hole are two different things.
Not really...the result is the same if you suck in water. The guy in the video thought cuz he had a snorkel he was safe. And most have the mentality of, "it'll never happen to me"!
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Not really...the result is the same if you suck in water. The guy in the video thought cuz he had a snorkel he was safe. And most have the mentality of, "it'll never happen to me"!
The end results may be the same if you goof up but its not the same thing, lots of people will cross water if they have to but not everyone will bail off in a mud hole trying to show off. People also tend to be way more careful when having to cross water then people who just want to see how deep they can go.
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This is a great thread!

I just got my first rubicon 2 days ago... im not sure how you were mentally able to push it that far (unless I assume you have off road experience or previous jeeps).

I have heard numerous people mention walking the rivers or measuring... im curious what methods people use to measure water and with what equipment?

For instance.. does walking a water path literally mean walking in knee deep water with a 3 foot stick measuring to find drop offs?


Anyway... great thread, thanks for the info
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This is a great thread!

I just got my first rubicon 2 days ago... im not sure how you were mentally able to push it that far (unless I assume you have off road experience or previous jeeps).

I have heard numerous people mention walking the rivers or measuring... im curious what methods people use to measure water and with what equipment?

For instance.. does walking a water path literally mean walking in knee deep water with a 3 foot stick measuring to find drop offs?

Anyway... great thread, thanks for the info
Good question. You see a lot of people on this forun say "I all ways walk it first" but I have NEVER seen someone get out and wade through a mud hole or water crossing in a river or creek.
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I had a similar experience when I first got my Jeep, I was going through tall grass that I didn't walk through first at about 20 MPH. After I did it I thought, that was dumb, what if there was a hole, rock, or even a foundation under the grass. That was the last time I did that.

By the way, here in PR when a hurricane or tropical storm dumps rain and the roads flood, most casualties are from people being swept away in their cars crossing a flooded road
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From the video it does not look bad, my luck if I went through it there would be a submerged tire spike and I would be DIW.

I am assuming this guy went first.

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