Same in Australia - been the stock bumper since 2007. Down here the fog lamps are not allowed to be closer than 600mm, prob part of the reason for the redesign.
However, they have also been called the fat lip bumper, or the park bench bumper... Mine made a good camping seat til I lifted it
The EU bumper is to big and not good for offroad and looks ugly. Even the US bumper is to big and affects approach of angle negatively.
Look at the short bumper on this Landrover Defender, excellent Approach angle at 49 deg
EU Wrangler bumper:
Approach angle 38.4 deg.
Departure angle 31.3 deg.
US Wrangler bumper:
Approach angle 40.8 deg
Departure angle 37.4 deg
Landrover Defender :
Approach angle 49 deg.
Departure angle 47 deg.
My old 2001 Suzuki Jimny :
Approach angle 42 deg.
Departure angle 46 deg.
Suzuki Samurai: ???
Approach angle 48 deg
Departure angle 40 deg.
Hummer H1:
Approach angle 72
Departure angle 37.5
Lada Niva:
Approach angle 40 deg.
Departure angle 32 deg.
Mercedes Geländewagen:
Approach angle 40 deg
Summary:
European wrangler has one of the worst approach angles in the world in the group "real 4X4" because of the big bumper.
The US bumper aint so good either.
Dont get me wrong I love Wranglers and have ordered a 2012 Wrangler, but I do not like that Jeep have lost some of its heritage as a military vehicle.
My concerns are the ugly bumper, to big but I like it black. Painted fenders and roof, not so practical and all that Chrome, I hate chrome. The lack of flat colors, only shiny colors.
As a naturephotograper I want a more military vehicle to hide from animals and people
I really hope that we dont get that chrome thing that US wrangler Sahara have on theres bumpers.
No it's not. The "European" bumpers are primarily for pedestrian safety. I guess if you waffle a European with a JK they won't get more killed than if you had a US spec or off road bumper. So, in the infinite wisdom of some believing that there is a lot of pedestrian waffling going on in Europe, Europeans have to tolerate that bumper.
Thanks guys, but I wish the answer from technical point of view, installation and fixing does US bumper fit 100% in place of European one (front and rear) so I will remove old European ones and order OEM US spec. and swap them does it work?
No Unfortunately it is not. It is the Euro. spec. bumper and dealers here know nothing about it.
To bad, I would like to buy one.
If anyone knows a way please let me know.
Thanks
its the euro bumper I seen it last night I wondering how popular jeeps were in russia and I seen that style on jeep site in russian . they sell used for $ 53.000 US .used 2011 .
Hi, i am from Saudi Arabia, unfort we have big lip one as the euro's. I am getting my new wrangler today "white sport s" love the location of the fog lights but hate the lip. Will replace the bumper as soon as i could find a US one..
Hi, i am from Saudi Arabia, unfort we have big lip one as the euro's. I am getting my new wrangler today "white sport s" love the location of the fog lights but hate the lip. Will replace the bumper as soon as i could find a US one..
Those eurobumpers remind me of the fugly front bumper on my '06 Dakota- that thing stuck out about 6 inches too far for my taste. Maybe the same Chrysler designer drew them both up.
I believe the bumpers were designed just to pass the safety regulation and test in the stock form. If you're not going seroius offroad, the apporach angle isn't a matter. And if you're, you're going to change that plastic thing anyway.
I wish the COD bumpers (and hood) were going to be available as factory options on the '13s.....
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