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Old 07-17-2013, 09:51 AM   #61
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Probably downhill. Both ways!

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Old 07-17-2013, 11:20 AM   #62
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No, it is really possible, I'm getting in between 17.2 and 17.7 and I have more frontal surface than his pop-up. Mine must be lighter, but once your up to speed on the highway, frontal surface matters much.

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Does anyone tow a Jayco Ultralight type trailer? I was looking at one that has fold out beds (similar to a popup).
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:18 PM   #64
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Very nice setup. Who makes your camper?
Thanks. It's called a T@B and it's made by Little Guy (they make teardrops). You can see them at tab-rv.com and there's a forum at Little Guy Teardrop Trailers - Home.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:22 PM   #65
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Hi, curious to know how you did with it (mpg).

Ours is a 2dr 2012 3.6l, 6 speed manual with 3.73 gears. We have made a 1600 miles road trip with our trailer.
On our way there, it did 17.7 mpg at an average of 65 mph. On our way back it did 17.2 mpg at about the same speed. (Calculated, not taken from the computer).

We are pleased with these numbers, same trailer with our previous 2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara V6 2.7l auto was doing only 14.8 mpg
I'm towing with a 2011 2-door Sport, 3.8, 6-speed manual, and 3.21 gears. The T@B is a bit heavy and has a huge frontal area, so my MPG is pretty bad, especially in the mountains. On our first trip, we were at almost 13 MPG according to the computer (not calculated).
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:48 PM   #66
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My gallery of the build is HERE
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:44 AM   #67
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FYI, dexter makes a lift kit for their camper torsion arms for those of with low campers. Bolt on install, gives 3 inches. Waiting for mine now, will post before and afters when I install.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:04 AM   #68
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Found this trailer on CL for a song, and though small, I love the basic design. Old CJ tub, torsion bar suspension (don't have to worry about a low hanging axle).

I've got adapters and spare wheels, so I'll switch to JK wheels this summer, also planning to add a rack on top so I can increase storage space. I'm also planning to mount my Hi-Lift on it and maybe add rear flares...though not sure if I'd go with JK or CJ flares

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Old 07-18-2013, 10:18 AM   #69
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What would you guys with travel trailers think about my '13 JKUS auto towing one of these?

I have the tow package and the 3.73 gears. What upgrades/mods would be a must?

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What would you guys with travel trailers think about my '13 JKUS auto towing one of these?

I have the tow package and the 3.73 gears. What upgrades/mods would be a must?

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Looks like frontal area would exceed allowable frontal area in Jeep specs., of 32 sq. ft.
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My Camper. It's nice to be able to take a full bath and kitchen with you when roughing it.
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My Camper. It's nice to be able to take a full bath and kitchen with you when roughing it.
I'm with you on this. Don't forget the A/C.
Mine is about 3200#. The 13 w3.73 tows nice.


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Does anyone tow a Jayco Ultralight type trailer? I was looking at one that has fold out beds (similar to a popup).
Do you mean a hybrid? See my earlier post. Just be aware that the frontal area is at the limits of the manual. That can be hazardous. I use a WD hitch and sway bar for added control
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FYI, dexter makes a lift kit for their camper torsion arms for those of with low campers. Bolt on install, gives 3 inches. Waiting for mine now, will post before and afters when I install.
There is also Flexride from Universal Group, full beam or half axle. This is what I used on my camping trailer.
And you can adjust the angles of the arms.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:25 PM   #75
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I'm with you on this. Don't forget the A/C.
Mine is about 3200#. The 13 w3.73 tows nice.


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Do you have any mods to help for towing? What kind of MPG do you get? Any other tips for your setup?
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:39 PM   #76
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Do you have any mods to help for towing? What kind of MPG do you get? Any other tips for your setup?
The only mod is the addition of 7pin wiring harness and a controller for trailer brakes. I installed a 4/7 pin combo harness. The 4 pin from mopar plugs right in and you run a couple of wires to the cab for brake controller. I do use a WD hitch set up. IMHO that is a must have to level out the load and provide better control.


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The only mod is the addition of 7pin wiring harness and a controller for trailer brakes. I installed a 4/7 pin combo harness. The 4 pin from mopar plugs right in and you run a couple of wires to the cab for brake controller. I do use a WD hitch set up. IMHO that is a must have to level out the load and provide better control.


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And you can see above that I use an extended receiver for better clearance from the spare. Hidden Hitch & Reese sell these. I highly recommend either

Thanks for that info. What kind of MPG do you get with your setup?
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Thanks for that info. What kind of MPG do you get with your setup?
I actually lol'd at that. I bet a Class A Motorhome gets better mileage. You have a brick pulling a cinderblock down the highway.

But I do like that some of you like to camp in comfort. Nice pic's keep them coming.
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Thanks for that info. What kind of MPG do you get with your setup?
It really depends on the terrain. But the range for my set up is 14.5-15.5. Without trailer my average is 21. But that is my driving habits. I wouldn't put much stock in this. Everyone is different (driving habits,mods,gears, and so on)
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I'm with you. This was our campsite on Buck Lake off of the McKinney-Rubicon last month for our honeymoon.

Note myself passed out in the hammock after fishing all morning...
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I'm with you. This was our campsite on Buck Lake off of the McKinney-Rubicon last month for our honeymoon.

Note myself passed out in the hammock after fishing all morning...
Got yourself a keeper if she'll camp for the honeymoon!
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Thanks for that info. What kind of MPG do you get with your setup?
I get avg 17mpg without the camper and avg 10 - 13mpg pulling the camper depending on speed and terrain.
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I get avg 17mpg without the camper and avg 10 - 13mpg pulling the camper depending on speed and terrain.
What model camper is that one?
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What model camper is that one?
It's a Trailite by R-Vision.
2800lb dry weight. With gas bottles, gear and groceries I'm guessing around 3300lb.
It pulls good but you definitely need a brake controller or it will push you through an intersection when the roads are wet.
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My Camper. It's nice to be able to take a full bath and kitchen with you when roughing it.
Hey I just noticed you pull with a soft top. I was always cautious of wind effects and put the hard top on for towing.
Do you experience anything unusual. I sure would rather tow with the soft top
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Got yourself a keeper if she'll camp for the honeymoon!
I just went past 25 years on july 7th and we tent camped on our honeymoon and we are still tent camping. There are some places you just can't pull a camper too regardless of what kind of vehicle you have
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Hey I just noticed you pull with a soft top. I was always cautious of wind effects and put the hard top on for towing.
Do you experience anything unusual. I sure would rather tow with the soft top
I realize you weren't asking me, but I tow with a soft top without any problems. I know you have an Unlimited and a much larger trailer than I do, but I'm not sure that changes anything. By the way, nice trailer.
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I realize you weren't asking me, but I tow with a soft top without any problems. I know you have an Unlimited and a much larger trailer than I do, but I'm not sure that changes anything. By the way, nice trailer.
Thanks. Now that the kids are grown, the rig seems almost too big for us. We're looking at the smaller teardrops now. I like the look.
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Hey I just noticed you pull with a soft top. I was always cautious of wind effects and put the hard top on for towing.
Do you experience anything unusual. I sure would rather tow with the soft top
I've pulled it with the hard top and with the soft top. There is no difference.
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Pulling often with the soft top down, enjoying the ride, it doesn't affect anything, makes a nice ride.

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