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Old 01-15-2013, 08:02 PM   #1
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Jeep CEO talks about diesel and pickup wrangler versions

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/jeep...up-197093.html

Interesting stuff. Worth a read anyway.

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Interesting - but I'll believe when I see it!

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Ram won't like it one bit.
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Mike Manley has been saying this for the past couple of years. Remember back in early 2011 when he surprised dealers by showing off the Gladiator pickup concept?
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I'm more concerned with him making the statement about manufacturing in China than I am with the Wrangler getting a diesel.

...So if he's reading this...I'll be damned if I'll buy a Jeep made in China. Not gonna happen.
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I'm more concerned with him making the statement about manufacturing in China than I am with the Wrangler getting a diesel.

...So if he's reading this...I'll be damned if I'll buy a Jeep made in China. Not gonna happen.
I'm with him
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IMO he is referring to building Jeeps for the Chinese market in China and not here.
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I don't buy ANYTHING made in China if I have a choice. No interest in supporting a communist government or spending my money on China-made GARBAGE.

Jeep Wrangler production leaves the USA and Chrysler won't EVER see another one of my pennies.
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IMO he is referring to building Jeeps for the Chinese market in China and not here.
For Chrysler's sake, I hope he is...
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from the Detroit Free Press

Chrysler and Fiat’s announcement Tuesday that it will build Jeeps in China with Guangzhou Auto has again become a political football, generating tweets from Donald Trump saying “I told you so," and other chatter on blogs and social media.

Chrysler and Jeep CEO Mike Manley said the agreement allows Jeep to add production in China so that it can sell SUVs in China and doesn’t eliminate any jobs in the U.S.

In fact, Chrysler has added or plans to add a total of more than 4,000 workers at U.S. plants to make Jeeps between last summer and next fall, but that hasn’t quelled the debate.

"I am not entirely sure what causes the confusion on this point," said Mike Manley, president and CEO of Jeep and chief operating officer for the Asia Pacific region for Fiat.
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Chrysler and Fiat’s announcement Tuesday that it will build Jeeps in China with Guangzhou Auto has again become a political football, generating tweets from Donald Trump saying “I told you so," and other chatter on blogs and social media.

Chrysler and Jeep CEO Mike Manley said the agreement allows Jeep to add production in China so that it can sell SUVs in China and doesn’t eliminate any jobs in the U.S.

In fact, Chrysler has added or plans to add a total of more than 4,000 workers at U.S. plants to make Jeeps between last summer and next fall, but that hasn’t quelled the debate.

"I am not entirely sure what causes the confusion on this point," said Mike Manley, president and CEO of Jeep and chief operating officer for the Asia Pacific region for Fiat.
Well let's hope Mike Manley puts his money where his mouth is, because a lot of companies say a lot of things, then do just the opposite.
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I don't buy ANYTHING made in China if I have a choice. No interest in supporting a communist government or spending my money on China-made GARBAGE.

Jeep Wrangler production leaves the USA and Chrysler won't EVER see another one of my pennies.
Really? Not supporting things made in China cause you dislike the government is like not getting gas from your local BP cause of the spill. You're hurting the individual business owner/worker more than you are the larger entity.

Also, not everything made in China is junk. Many of us love our iPhones, iPads, etc. and few may even claim it's built better than the competition.
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Really? Not supporting things made in China cause you dislike the government is like not getting gas from your local BP cause of the spill. You're hurting the individual business owner/worker more than you are the larger entity.

Also, not everything made in China is junk. Many of us love our iPhones, iPads, etc. and few may even claim it's built better than the competition.
That's great you love your iPhone. I not only own an iPhone, but a MacBook Pro, also. As I said, I don't buy things made in China if it can be avoided. I mentioned this is my first post and it's very clear.

Next, I'm not hurting the individual business, they're hurting themselves by selling Chinese-made products. They have no one to blame but themselves.

BTW, I own stock in BP, so I do gas up at BP. If you use BP gasoline, thanks for your business.
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IMO he is referring to building Jeeps for the Chinese market in China and not here.
That's how it all begins..

Sometimes I wonder - a sustainable business does not need to expand, not even overseas.. It's only when people want _more_ money that they try to expand overseas and improve margins by cutting cost at the price of quality.
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That's great you love your iPhone. I not only own an iPhone, but a MacBook Pro, also. As I said, I don't buy things made in China if it can be avoided. I mentioned this is my first post and it's very clear.

Next, I'm not hurting the individual business, they're hurting themselves by selling Chinese-made products. They have no one to blame but themselves.

BTW, I own stock in BP, so I do gas up at BP. If you use BP gasoline, thanks for your business.
So your OK with products made in china if you want/like them...

Got it...lol
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They're not going to do an American model and a Chinese model. They WILL make the American model cheeper to match the Chinese one, and down the slippery slow Jeep goes until it's a Kia and we all give up on the brand and start buying Toyota FJ's instead. I sure hope Jeep doesn't sell out.
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So your OK with products made in china if you want/like them...

Got it...lol
Ummm, nope, you don't got it. In fact, you're way off.

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That's how it all begins..

Sometimes I wonder - a sustainable business does not need to expand, not even overseas.. It's only when people want _more_ money that they try to expand overseas and improve margins by cutting cost at the price of quality.
^ This.
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I thought that he said he was keeping the core models (wrangler, grand Cherokee ) to be protected and only to be made in the US?
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He also said that if someone is going to tell him that he can't make a compass in china he might as well close up shop.
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haha well played. Its pretty neat how proud you Americans are of your auto industry, I really respect that. I too am very happy to own a vehicle made by our neighbour. I used to drive a VW and for some reason the european aspect of it always kind of bugged me and I don't know why. I think we give japanese and european companies our dollars too easily these days. Just my opinion though
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They're not going to do an American model and a Chinese model. They WILL make the American model cheeper to match the Chinese one, and down the slippery slow Jeep goes until it's a Kia and we all give up on the brand and start buying Toyota FJ's instead. I sure hope Jeep doesn't sell out.
That's the beauty of capitalism and free markets. China has the competitive advantage on us when it comes to manufacturing.
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They are talking about making Jeeps for the Chinese and Asian market, not moving all production to China. The costs would be astronomical to ship Jeeps or assembled parts from China to the US because of tariffs and import laws. That's why the Japanese automakers built auto plants in the US in the 80's.

Plus Chinese manufacturing isn't what it used to be. It's getting more expensive by the year because of increasing labor standards and wages over there. They also steal your designs and manufacturing techniques willfully because their culture doesn't believe in intellectual property. The concept of owning an idea is completely foreign to them.

The next manufacturing boom is happening in Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, and Brazil. Just by sheer logistics Brazil would be a better option if they were ever going to offshore Jeep production and other companies such as Caterpillar are already seriously thinking about it because of increasing labor liabilities.

Chrysler is making hand over fist on the Jeep brand. They are just looking into avenues to lower the costs of exporting to the Asian market. Believe me, I lived in Korea and Japan and people love wheeling Jeeps there too.
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What? The Wrangler could be built even more cheaply (less quality)?

Grrrr, no JK-8.
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I don't buy ANYTHING made in China if I have a choice. No interest in supporting a communist government or spending my money on China-made GARBAGE.

Jeep Wrangler production leaves the USA and Chrysler won't EVER see another one of my pennies.
You do realize that you live in a time of GLOBAL economics right? and the comment you made is completely ignorant, lack of a better word. The vast majority of the things you have, although they claim to be "Made in the USA" can be traced back to other countries, including big bad CHINA. That includes our lovely Jeeps. The fact that its "assembled" in the USA doesn't mean its entirely "MADE" in the USA. Get the difference? That includes things you might be choosing to buy over another because you think its made in the USA. I'm all in favor of supporting our labor force but I'm fully aware that the nostalgic ideology of "Made in the USA" is far gone.
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That's how it all begins..

Sometimes I wonder - a sustainable business does not need to expand, not even overseas.. It's only when people want _more_ money that they try to expand overseas and improve margins by cutting cost at the price of quality.
Welcome to the modern economy. Have you ever noticed the stock price on a company which is sustainable? It tends to go down.

Wall Street drives this behavior.
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You do realize that you live in a time of GLOBAL economics right? and the comment you made is completely ignorant, lack of a better word. The vast majority of the things you have, although they claim to be "Made in the USA" can be traced back to other countries, including big bad CHINA. That includes our lovely Jeeps. The fact that its "assembled" in the USA doesn't mean its entirely "MADE" in the USA. Get the difference? That includes things you might be choosing to buy over another because you think its made in the USA. I'm all in favor of supporting our labor force but I'm fully aware that the nostalgic ideology of "Made in the USA" is far gone.
Couldn't care less what you think of my statements, and I could care even less about global economics. I care about America's economics. I'll continue to support products made in the USA whenever possible. I'm very well aware of what "Made in the USA" means. It means 60% of a product is made here in America. It also means my money is being reinvested in America and keeping American workers employed. If you wanna go put American workers out of work by buying cheap-ass garbage made in China, you do that, but I'm not.

...And don't even think for a second I'd own an American flag made in China. I'd burn it before it even made its way on to a flagpole. How dare ANY company send manufacturing of an American flag to an outside country. That's very disrespectful, and IMO it should be considered treason. It's a slap in the face to every American who's fought for this country, worked in this country, and is a citizen of this country. I find it very offensive.

...For the record, 71% of the parts on my Jeep were either made in America or Canada; it's printed right on my window sticker. I'll be happy to snap off a photo for you if you like.
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Really? Not supporting things made in China cause you dislike the government is like not getting gas from your local BP cause of the spill. You're hurting the individual business owner/worker more than you are the larger entity.

Also, not everything made in China is junk. Many of us love our iPhones, iPads, etc. and few may even claim it's built better than the competition.
Don't knock anybody for trying their hardest to support this country as a whole. If it is possible, should Americans not try buy American-made products? Unless there really is no other alternative, such as the Apple products you threw on the other commenters face. And as for hurting the small business owner more than the entity, perhaps if more people continue to join the initiative to buy American products, the aforementioned small business owner will stock American products over the lower priced and almost always lower quality PRC-derived alternatives.
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Don't knock anybody for trying their hardest to support this country as a whole. If it is possible, should Americans not try buy American-made products? Unless there really is no other alternative, such as the Apple products you threw on the other commenters face. And as for hurting the small business owner more than the entity, perhaps if more people continue to join the initiative to buy American products, the aforementioned small business owner will stock American products over the lower priced and almost always lower quality PRC-derived alternatives.
THANK YOU FOR THAT!

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