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Old 11-29-2013, 01:00 PM   #1
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Jeep is going bye-bye...

I know I'm probably going to get hate mail for this, but, although I love my Jeep, it's just been having too many problems. She's been in the shop now for the past 4 days getting anything and everything related to the heating system replaced (radiator, heater core, blowers, hoses, etc.). They actually had to remove the engine for this latest issue. Not 6 months ago I had to have the heater core replaced. I've also had to replace the electronic brake controller, water pump and some other minor electrical components.

My warranty is almost up and luckily Jeeps seem to hold their trade-in values, so I'm trading her in for a BMW.

Sad to see her go and I'll miss the top-down, 4WD experience, but I'm really just too concerned about her on-going reliability.

I traded in a BMW X3 for the Jeep and I'm afraid I'm going to have to go back.

Much love to the Jeep community and I'll certainly miss 'the wave'. It's going to be a hard habit to break - waving at Jeeps - as they drive by.

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I know I'm probably going to get hate mail for this, but, although I love my Jeep, it's just been having too many problems. She's been in the shop now for the past 4 days getting anything and everything related to the heating system replaced (radiator, heater core, blowers, hoses, etc.). They actually had to remove the engine for this latest issue. Not 6 months ago I had to have the heater core replaced. I've also had to replace the electronic brake controller, water pump and some other minor electrical components.

My warranty is almost up and luckily Jeeps seem to hold their trade-in values, so I'm trading her in for a BMW.

Sad to see her go and I'll miss the top-down, 4WD experience, but I'm really just too concerned about her on-going reliability.

I traded in a BMW X3 for the Jeep and I'm afraid I'm going to have to go back.

Much love to the Jeep community and I'll certainly miss 'the wave'. It's going to be a hard habit to break - waving at Jeeps - as they drive by.
Absolutely understood, anything that is a headache is not worth having, sorry this was a bad experience for you, hopefully down the line if you ever get another things will be different. I too would trade it in if it gave me that many problems. Best of luck with your new BEAMER.

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Old 11-29-2013, 01:09 PM   #3
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Sucks, but I don't see how anyone could blame ya. I just needed a rear axle seal at 3500 miles, not off to a great start. Love Wranglers, wish anyone but Chrysler ended up with them.
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:17 PM   #4
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Interesting. I've read about many others with zero issues for many miles. Isolated cases or is there a trend just because the wrangler is made by Chrysler?
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:25 PM   #5
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Isn't Jeep owned by Fiat now?
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:43 PM   #6
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Get a different jeep?
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:49 PM   #7
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I think it's clear that the Wrangler survives because it's cooler then it is unreliable, but I also think dealer can make-or-break the experience. My wife and I will be buying a new SUV soon, but, though she'd love a Wrangler, the local dealers are making it hard (mine is in for the seventh time for the same problem today, and for the first time I'll be getting a loaner).

Good luck, OP!
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:12 PM   #8
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Isn't Jeep owned by Fiat now?
Jeep is a division of Chrysler, witch is majority owned by Fiat.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:19 PM   #9
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That sucks! I've got almost 1,000 miles on my baby so far with no problems.

I just have to make 1 comment. If Jeeps were in your blood then you would be trading it in for another Jeep.

I'm not suggesting that we should have to put up with a lemon, just saying that there are plenty of other Jeeps driving down the road that aren't.

My suggestion - Trade it in for a new Jeep or buy the BMW and pick up a CJ, YJ, or TJ....
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:24 PM   #10
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Good luck OP...I can't say I blame you.

We will see how my current Wrangler holds up (in terms of me ending up with another one). This is my first Wrangler and my second Jeep. I can't say I'm super impressed with the quality of Jeeps....but I do love the Wrangler.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:42 PM   #11
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Makes me glad I purchased the lifetime warranty hearing this thread.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:50 PM   #12
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I agree with the earlier comment. Get the beamer and pick up an older YJ as a "toy" Mine is not my DD and I love having it. Insurance is cheap and I own it. Plus it's easy to work on should the need arise.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:51 PM   #13
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Absolutely understood, anything that is a headache is not worth having, sorry this was a bad experience for you, hopefully down the line if you ever get another things will be different. I too would trade it in if it gave me that many problems. Best of luck with your new BEAMER.
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:05 PM   #14
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Here is my thinking. Engine blows up after warranty expires - Time for a hemi!
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:14 PM   #15
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I certainly understand your position. I don't have the patience for lemons either. At the opposite end, I had an M3 that had more issues than National Geographic. The happiest day I had is when I dumped it. So far with the 10 Rubi., no problems.
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Good luck OP...I can't say I blame you.

We will see how my current Wrangler holds up (in terms of me ending up with another one). This is my first Wrangler and my second Jeep. I can't say I'm super impressed with the quality of Jeeps....but I do love the Wrangler.
Exactly. This is my first Jeep (2012 JK w/ 31k on it now) and it's not been the most reliable vehicle I've owned. Matter of fact, it's the worst.

Water pump replaced
Flywheel (auto) in the process of being replaced (been in the shop since Tuesday don't expect it back till next Tuesday)
Front windows won't engage randomly
Hood used to flop around like a goddamn fish on the freeway

but, it's the most unique and versatile vehicle I've ever owned and the most fun to drive overall. It would take a lot for me to get rid of it at this point, but I would wind up getting an older 2 dr and going to town on it. Just not as a daily driver.
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:29 PM   #17
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I am a Jeep Lover , this will be my 6th ( 4 wranglers ,1 Grand Cher, and A Commander) you might say i am Jeep Loyal....EVERY manufacturer has their lemons, their disappointments what ever you want to call them.. I know People who have Had horrible issues with their Fords, their Toyota's the list goes on. I wish you luck with your BMW....hope its a rag top your going to miss not having one!...
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:20 PM   #18
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I'm sorry to hear that you're having so many problems with your Jeep. A friend of mine, several years ago, won a BMW 330i with her choice of options and color, free and clear; even the taxes were prepaid. I was sooo jealous because that was the car I wanted! Until all the problems started. I think in the end, that car was in the shop more than she actually got to drive it and she got rid of it after 3 years. Since then, my love affair with BMW has seriously waned. I'm just bringing this up because nothing is immune to problems. Perhaps if you talk to your dealer, or Chrysler, they can assist you in the replacement of your Wrangler. That is if it's truly in your blood. If not, then cut your losses and move on.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:32 PM   #19
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Currently own a 10A. Drove Jeeps for 20some years(2 YJs, 1 XJ and 1 TJ) before wondering to the Land Rover ( Discovery) and Volvo( XC90) and glad I am back..... the JK interior is nicer than the previous models, but reliability sure seems down big time.... almost Land Rover like ''Yikes'' !!!!and believe me that is bad.... but a Jeep is what it is..... if you like Jeeps so much, trade it for a new one where you have full warranty again..... I took 5 years unlimited mileage bumper to bumper....
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:57 PM   #20
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I don't blame you, I did the same thing. My Jeep was junk from day 1. Im going to hold out for the next gen and hope Chrysler has turned themselves around. I kick myself everyday for getting rid of my 1999 Sahara, one the best buys I ever made, never had a single problem with it.
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If you spend any time on any vehicle forum you will see stories just like your...yes, on the BMW one too. In all cases they are the exception not the rule. It's a crap shoot to getting a lemon regardless of vehicle. That being said, if you live the jeep and not the problem, just trade in for a different jeep. I've had and other vehicles in between, and never had any real issue with any of mine. I have had issues with other vehicles. Just the way it goes.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:01 PM   #22
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I am a Jeep Lover , this will be my 6th ( 4 wranglers ,1 Grand Cher, and A Commander) you might say i am Jeep Loyal....EVERY manufacturer has their lemons, their disappointments what ever you want to call them.. I know People who have Had horrible issues with their Fords, their Toyota's the list goes on. I wish you luck with your BMW....hope its a rag top your going to miss not having one!...

Do you still have your first Jeep?? I'm currently driving my first Wrangler and also the first vehicle I purchased on my own.. im 22. I have it paid off now.. 07 JK 75k miles.. Graduating college in two weeks.. Thinking about selling my Jeep and paying off the school loans.. taking the remainder and putting it down on a new Jeep..

Monetarily a wonderful idea... not sure I can let go of my first Jeep though.. even if I have a new one.

I don't plan on ever driving anything other than a Jeep.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:43 PM   #23
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Do you still have your first Jeep?? I'm currently driving my first Wrangler and also the first vehicle I purchased on my own.. im 22. I have it paid off now.. 07 JK 75k miles.. Graduating college in two weeks.. Thinking about selling my Jeep and paying off the school loans.. taking the remainder and putting it down on a new Jeep..

Monetarily a wonderful idea... not sure I can let go of my first Jeep though.. even if I have a new one.

I don't plan on ever driving anything other than a Jeep.
No we sold it to get another one...and the evolution continues ...I love the wranglers...yeah they are a rattle box , and have their issues ( which so do other vehicles) but what other vehicle has the notoriety , and presence that a Wrangler does?...Do you see FJ cruisers waving? or a hummer that actually can handle the mud? OR ROCKS....NOPE Nope Nope...im sticking with the wrangler
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I just don't want to be kicking myself in 25 years saying damn sure wish I still had my first Jeep.. lol
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Haha, trading up for a BMW for reliability? Yea buddy, ok.
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I hope your BMW is better than mine was.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:12 PM   #28
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My '12 JKUR has 42000 miles with no issues so far. It is my 7th Jeep, with two TJs, three XJs and an AMC leftover Grand Wagoneer and about 900,000 miles combined. All were great vehicles... even the Wagoneer, though it had a finicky carburetor. Never had an engine or transmission problem other than oil leaks. Then again, I've owned 29 vehicles and other than a terribly unreliable '69 Z/28 (wish I kept it), a Pinto, and a 2nd gen MINI Cooper S, all were really solid, trouble-free cars.

But I understand the disappointment of a lemon. My Cooper S and a friend's M3 that grenaded its engine have scared me away from BMWs for life. I think if a Jeep is what the OP really wanted they should roll the dice and get another one.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:09 AM   #30
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This is our first Jeep coming from owning 5 Toyota Landcruisers over the years.

We've had the Jeep since May and covered about 12k miles and have had the following replaced under warranty:

Torque converter
Thermostat housing (leaking coolant)
Header seal and others around the freedom top panels (water leak)

Fortunately we purchased the lifetime maxcare warranty although it really is a hassle brining the Jeep in for repairs as our nearest dealer is 45 minutes away.

The blutetooth or u-connect is starting to go now I think - it's not picking up the phones, dropping calls and very long delays.

We both love the Jeep but it has honestly been one of the most problem prone vehicles we've ever purchased but we do plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off.

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