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Old 05-28-2012, 12:29 AM   #61
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I going to pull my carpet soon. At least the floor. Might leave the sides. Thinking about not lining it though since mine is Dark Charcoal anyways. It looks pretty good from what little I have already pulled up. Think I may pull it and run it that way a bit just too see how it holds up. I have always bed line it at anytime.


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Check with Yella...he posted some photos awhile back of his Line-X job. Still makes me slobber.
I am absolutely impressed with a jeep like yours that you would be slobbering over mine. Thank you so much sir.

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Bedlining the interior is definitely on my to-do list. Especially after my dog yakked in the Jeep today.
I said this once regarding spilt milk.
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One of the best mods I made. No regrets and it cost me 40$ at Walmart for a gallon of bed liner.
I've never seen a DIY project and Line-X is $600 if you do the prep yourself. 40 bucks is really cheap. My lineX is an awesome job.

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yank the carpet and go for the line-x. by far the best thing i've done, no worries of future mildew smell. but i've noticed it is a bit louder but nothing to worry about
x2. If you can afford line-x then do it. I prepped mine to save money and mostly to feel like I was involved. The guys that sprayed my line-x were impressed with the effort I put in the prep so I think they returned the favor by doing an excellent job on spraying it.

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Are you talking about the goop around the back? I am thinking about doing this soon and i want to make sure i prep it right. Theres also a strip of black tape covering a hole on both sides in the back. Have any idea what thats for? Or what it is??
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I was pulling my carpet out a bit dreaming of bed lining it or going bare. I noticed a big hole when removing some of the carpet by the b-pillar, right behind the door. This is a 2DR and there are holes on both sides. If you haven't seen them, they are a good sized hole about 6 inches high and 2.5 inches wide with nothing really important in there.

QUESTION: Is everyone just duct-taping over the holes and then putting bed liner on top of that?
Spray paint the inside of those holes and don't worry about them. There is styrofoam sprayed inside there. If you ahve a light colored jeep you should try spray painting inside the vents of the tail gate. It will show if you don't.

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Yes it will. If the goop is the dampening on the floor I just left it. Can't see it anyway with floors liners. Plus I was way too lazy to scrape it off
Remove the goop, it looks bad IMO. Covering it with floor mats was not an option for me, although I do run floor mats up front. The back is open to be seen. That goop is buttugly, it shows thru bedlining. If you're too lazy (your words not mine) to do a job right then it probably shouldn't be done at all. Or at least have someone with energy do it.

I found that water did seem to help soften the material but the best thing I found to use was a pneumatic needle gun.



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Well both. They can't fit me in until June 15th and want 2 weeks to due the job. He said all Jeeps take two weeks? I think it's too long as well. Maybe they want to do a "Joy Ride"?

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I took a couple days off work and had already done some prepping leading up to those two days before I took my jeep to line-x. They were driving it in as my son and I left for breakfast and then to the cb shop then home for a nap and wait for the call to come get it. We run around a couple hours, got home and they called just as I was about to hit the couch. Line-X sprays on with a heated gun. It drys instantly so it don't take long at all once they get on it.

I had to replace the e-brake lever in my jeep yesterday. While I had the seats out I rattle canned the line-x with a gloss black. I line-x'ed my jeep last october. I've had some water get in a puddle a little bit and this spring I've had the top off quite a bit now and I can see the line-x is starting to look like a pickup bed. Kinda like a faded black and slightly stained from water spots; like you would see in a pickup bed. I spray painted the front floor board during the winter so I know it holds up good. The top is off so fumes aren't too bad. I noticed today there wasn't too much of a paint smell and it sure looked nice. I haven't taken pictures of it since painting the back end. I've been busy with the e-brake thingy and I put some stickers on it that came in yesterday and she is looking nice. Hell, since I got your attention (if I still do) check this out:



Like I said I haven't seen a DIY project but I sure do like my Line-x.

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This was a great reply ^ Thanks for taking the time on that one. I've been wondering how to cover the exposed wires that lead back to the rear tail lights along the left and right side of the tub. Does anyone have any good recommendations like a black rubber padding of some sort that would fit over them and keep them in place while hiding them?

I need some solutions to this.
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This was a great reply ^ Thanks for taking the time on that one. I've been wondering how to cover the exposed wires that lead back to the rear tail lights along the left and right side of the tub. Does anyone have any good recommendations like a black rubber padding of some sort that would fit over them and keep them in place while hiding them?

I need some solutions to this.
One reason I am considering leaving the side wall carpeting in. At least going to see how it will look. I wonder how that office rubber strips would look that they use in offices to run on the floor to hide wires. Something like this. Not sure how much wire it can hold

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I think you'll have trouble leaving only the side carpet in. The rear carpet is mostly one giant piece and as such you would have to cut what you want to take out and leave the sides. I don't know for sure but from my experience with taking it out I don't think it can be done so that only the side pieces stay put. They wouldn't have any support to keep them in place.

Thanks for the office thing recommendation, any others?
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I think something like this may work good. I could always paint/spray them black or silver to match the interior. These look like you cant clip them together over wires because they come in two separate pieces. I think I could conceal them pretty good with one.

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"Paint talc"? Never heard of it and Google isn't helping . . . Probably obvious, but what is this stuff?
Its an aerosal chemical found in automotive stores like pepboys etc, in the paint section that is used to strip paint. It is so strong, ive used it to strip valve covers before painting. Ive used it to strip crotch rocket frames before polishing. Ive used it to strip spray on bed liner to remove bolts. Its amazing. It actually lifts and bubbles about anything that sticks to metal. It chemical reaction not corrosive properties that do the work, so its easy on hands.
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Its an aerosal chemical found in automotive stores like pepboys etc, in the paint section that is used to strip paint. It is so strong, ive used it to strip valve covers before painting. Ive used it to strip crotch rocket frames before polishing. Ive used it to strip spray on bed liner to remove bolts. Its amazing. It actually lifts and bubbles about anything that sticks to metal. It chemical reaction not corrosive properties that do the work, so its easy on hands.
"Tal Strip" by 3m is the proper name, sorry for the shop slang : D
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Its an aerosal chemical found in automotive stores like pepboys etc, in the paint section that is used to strip paint. It is so strong, ive used it to strip valve covers before painting. Ive used it to strip crotch rocket frames before polishing. Ive used it to strip spray on bed liner to remove bolts. Its amazing. It actually lifts and bubbles about anything that sticks to metal. It chemical reaction not corrosive properties that do the work, so its easy on hands.
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"Tal Strip" by 3m is the proper name, sorry for the shop slang : D
That could be the best option I've heard of so far . . . thanks.
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Talking Been thinking about bedlineing the tub

In Indy I was given a $500 quote for Line-X if I did all the prep/removed passenger seat. That was for a 2-door. Its nice but that is a bit more than I want to spend. I've been through probably 1000 post talking about bedlineing the tub. From what I have found U-Pol Raptor liner and Monstaliner are the 2 best DIY options. Here is my notes.

Herculiner seems to get pretty bad reviews over all. It is easy to find for about $75. Lots of people have had problems with it fading, though it does come with a UV protection to put on. It has choped up tires for the grit that seems to usually not come out all that evenly and is very abrasive. It also doesn't let dirt wash out all that well from what I have read.


Rattle can rust-olum/duplicolor don't seem to get used very often at all. It seems like those would be about the cheapest options and pretty nice because you could do touch-ups if needed. Powderburn just did a post not too long ago using the gallon rust-olum -->http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/bed...ct-162110.html

U-Pol Raptor is a spray on application that comes in a kit with the gun for around $110. It does require an air compressor and masking materials. It's what ThrashN used in his above (I reposted a pict below). People have said that it washes out nice, has stayed in good shape for 2+ years, and is not too abrasive ( and just a bit slick). They have a package that can be tinted.

I have seen just a very very few post where people have had it come up on them. I'm assuming that this was from taking the sound goop out to bare metal and then not priming the bare metal surface. The instructions say that you need to rough up the paint or prime bare metal.

You can get a finer texture using higher pressure and spraying a bit from a distance.

With it you want to be careful not to tip the sprayer 90 degrees when full or it will run out the breather hole. For this reason when you get near the end of the bottles it is good to do around the pedals and places that need it to be tilted.


Most people were using 3 of these containers below to do a 2 Door.




Monstaliner is a roll on application that comes with some rollers for about $130. You can get it in a bunch of colors or tint it yourself. You do 2 coats and the texture can vary depending on how you put that second coat on.


They will send you a few color samples if you get on there web page and request one. For the most part people seem to be loving it. It can also be sprayed.


They have a big comparison on there page about the different options -->Monstaliner do-it-yourself roll-on truck bed liner - competitive product comparisons


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When your removing the bolt that holds the rear seatbelt down in a 2 DR you want to tape it too the roll bar or secure it somehow. Someones write-up said that it could get ruined if your not careful and it rolls all the way up.

It's best to do when you will be able to have the windows out because it will stink for awhile.

Put extra where it will get extra wear.

To plug holes you can use golf tees, wads of paper, or ear plugs.

Make sure to remove the masking before it dries completely. It looks like you should be able to put 2 coats on before it needs to be removed.

Wear Gloves because it isn't going to wash off when it gets hard for a few days at least


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Any opinions on the best way to remove the sound deadener?

So far, I've heard: (1) air chisel, (2) "elbow grease" chisel, (3) MEK, (4) dry ice, and (5) industrial heat blower.

Any other ideas? Anybody believe any of these processes is significantly better than any other? Other ideas altogether?
People seem to like the heat gun.

I have heard that water works well to soften it up.

I also heard of one person useing strypeeze Anybody strip out the carpets + plastic parts - Page 3 - JeepForum.com .

Another person used a dremmel "Multi-Max" with good results.


You have to be carefull with the air chisels not to go through the tub. One guy said he did that.
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I haven't bedlined yet but I got the goop off so easily. I don't have a heat gun but I have a blow torch. Fire that up and it pretty much liquifies it. I just scraped up the goop with a paint scraper
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The floor liners that were shown a few pics back were the Quadratecs but some others are not having such a great experience with them. Mostly they are plastic instead of thick rubber I believe, has anyone else used others that they like?
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Keep in mind that if you are using regular black monstaliner, it has sort of a "glossy" finish as opposed to a matte black finish. Holds up really well and the supplied pads and rollers give it the texture most are looking for while doing the second coat.
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The floor liners that were shown a few pics back were the Quadratecs but some others are not having such a great experience with them. Mostly they are plastic instead of thick rubber I believe, has anyone else used others that they like?
I got the weathertech Digi-fit liners...I love them! They are a little more pricey than the quads, however, i have not heard anything negative about them form anyone.
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Thats one of the first things we always do to any Wrang we buy.. out comes the carpets.. matter of fact I need to sell what we do have.. and posted to this effect.. After pulling the carpet.. I noticed it was pulled before and was torn right behind the rear sat cup holder.. also a great feature on the new JK's (compared to the TJ's) is that Mopar built up welds on the drivers and passengers floor boards..

I had hit Husky liners up for their floor mats.. but their liners came with small nubs which don't set very well in the bare floor boards.. So I sent them back and got mud guards instead. I sort of line Quads..heavy duty floor mats..

I was hoping to locate some slightly used mats for the front.. thou I haven't opted out of doing the bed liner.. So anyone with some left over liner (roll/paint brush on) I'll gladly accept donations.. Just need a small amount for the two front row floor boards. Don't care about the rest.
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I did mine with 4 cans of Duplicolor bed armor (kevlar) spray and a foam roller. Cost $44 at autozone. I did not sand anything and I left the seats in. I taped off parts of the seat belts,etc, and went around the wires, sprayed prep spray and then sprayed and rolled. The roller allowed me to get into some tight areas. It only took me about a day and a half including time to let the coats dry well. I put on about 4-5 coats doing it in sections and connecting by getting under the seats. It appears to be very durable and looks great. I still put the carpets back on anyway for now.
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I am in the Metro DC area and want to yank out my carpet. I do not have room at my house to do the bedlining myself and I was wondering if anyone know of a place that does bedling?



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Herculiner seems to get pretty bad reviews over all. It is easy to find for about $75. Lots of people have had problems with it fading, though it does come with a UV protection to put on. It has choped up tires for the grit that seems to usually not come out all that evenly and is very abrasive. It also doesn't let dirt wash out all that well from what I have read.
I did Herculiner in my truck bed and I've been pretty disappointed. It's very rough and has thinned in spots down to the stock paint from weathering. I would never use this as a replacement for carpet, or again as a bed liner for that matter. I'll be doing this mod to my new JKUR once I get it, will likely use line-x unless a DIY product really stands out as a serious alternative.
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I yanked my carpets out this past weekend after getting half submerged in a massive mud hole that had filled with rain.

After hosing her down and driving her dry, I ordered the quadratec front,back,cargo package. Shipping was $30! Fit was right but they were more plastic feeling than rubber, floated under my feet, and got in my way while shifting since I didn't have the carpet anchors to hold down. Called Quad to return. They said no problem but I had to cover shipping. Cost about $50 to return the set. So just blew $80 in shipping charges!

Then went staight to Jeep parts dept at Farrish in Fairfax, VA. That's where I bought mine and have it serviced. They're great. Parts dept showed me Mopars. They were almost identical to Quad set. He said that they were not meant to be used without the carpet.

His recommendation was either go naked or use line-x.

Trick Trucks in Chantilly, VA quoted me about $800 when I called to do it all in about a day with a lifetime warranty. Think I am going to go au natural for a while and then get er done the right way with line-x.
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also a great feature on the new JK's (compared to the TJ's) is that Mopar built up welds on the drivers and passengers floor boards..

Thats not welds. Thats the goop we've been talking about. I believe its for sound deadening.
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Talking Removed the rear carpet - 2012 2DR

The calk is silver even though the flash made it look orange.



This is the rear passenger foot well carpet

REMOVING REAR CARPET NOTES
The rear most 3 carpets where super easy to remove. The middle carpet that would be the rear footwell was a bit of a challenge. Clearly you want to push the seats all the way up first. I had to make a small 1/4" cut on the passenger side where the carpet wrapped around the rear outside seat bolt. It was pre-cut 90 percent of the way and pretty obvious where to do it. Also under the seats there is a small hole in the carpet that goes over a bot. Before you just pull out you'll want to put your hand under there and push it off there. You can see it on the picture pretty clearly near the bottom. There is a drain hole on each foot well back there. There is no doubt this middle carpet would be a major PITA to put back in.



WTF IS THIS HOLE FOR
I found this little taped over hole by the seat on the driver side only . I'm not sure what it is for. The blue tab is there it seems so you can easily remove the electrical type of tape. Is the hole for side airbags?? It's annoying because I want to bedline it with U-Pol Raptor and it is another thing to deal with. I wish they would just put a grommet in it. I'm hoping I can find one that will fit. Of course there is the huge ass hole behind the seat that sort of sucks too. There is nothing important in there. It just has some insulation sprayed.

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Is anyone running the quadratic mats (especially the new type) in the front with the carpet removed? Do they move around without that the little tab to hold them in is attached to the carpet.

Do you guys know where I could get a 1" plug for that hole in the 2nd picture?

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I pulled my carpet and bedlined with this
I bought the kit on eBay for around $100 shipped
Hardest part was getting rid of the deadner.



I've had it for over a year and it's held up great so far.
You really have me convinced I want to spray mine with the U-Pol Raptor liner. Yours looks great. Have you tried to put the rear seat back in now that you lined over the rear bars?

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Does anyone have any good recommendations like a black rubber padding of some sort that would fit over them and keep them in place while hiding them?

I need some solutions to this.

I'm thinking of useing "wire looms" which is what is in the picture above. I have seen it for pretty cheap at home depot when searching for antenna grounding wire.

Right now the wire is held in there by zip ties with the (fuckin a what is the word) plastic rod that pushes in the little hole and holds it. Anyways after a bit of searching I found they were called "Push Mount Cable Ties". So I'm thinking I will try to find some of those to hold the wire looms. If anyone knows were to get some that will work with the factory holes that would be cool to know.

OPTION 2 Re-Rought the wire. I ran across this thread -->Spray in Liner - UPOL Raptor Tintable: Deep Water Blue when looking about U-Pol Raptor liner. He re-roughted the wire up the roll bar by adding about 4' of wire spliced in. Then he also had to add some hose on the driver side for the hard-top rear wiper.
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Talking I got my Raptor liner done

I end up Raptor lining my Jeep about 3 weeks ago. I did a couple of write-ups about. I ended up spending $196 with all the supplies. I used all 4 bottles to get 2 solid coats.

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Just bed lined my wife's as you can see I did not remove the goo
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:34 PM   #87
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@huber15 - That looks good. I like how you did around the doors. I'm assuming that this is Raptor lined right? I'm very happy that I did mine with raptor. It washes out super fast with just a swipe of a wet towel. I'm guessing you will be doing your own rig here pretty soon.

I also put some 303 fabric guard on the seats and roll bars of mine. Now I really don't have to worry about it getting wet or muddy.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/303...er-185750.html
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Saw someone asking about the big holes behind the front seats that are 4"x2" or so...They make metal tape...I used that on mine to cover the holes, then you can bedline over the tape. You can tell that it is there if you are looking for it, but it is not extremely noticable. Also...it is pretty darn hard and sturdy and...I'm not sure why you would need to but if you ever need to open it up again you can cut through the bedliner/tape with a knife. I still need to post pictures of mine after the bedliner so I will get some close-ups of that.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:22 PM   #89
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COVERING THE 2DR HOLES
That's a good idea going with metal tape. I ended up getting a small piece of aluminum sheet. I cut that down to size and put it on with some JB quick weld (found in the paint department).
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:21 PM   #90
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@huber15 - That looks good. I like how you did around the doors. I'm assuming that this is Raptor lined right?]
No it's not raptor. I know a guy that has his own shop called Spraytech and he did it for me.

He did my YJ also when I had my tub of and fixed all the rust. On that one we did the inside and underneath.

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