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Old 10-15-2011, 11:33 PM   #1
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Jeep JKU R racks

Hello all. I'd love some opinions or experience on some racks. I've narrowed down to two racks, the Garvin expedition rack or the body armor roof rack base with basket. Some of my usage concerns are miscellaneous carry (rack), canoe/kayak carry, and windsurfing, paddle board carry. My main use would be the storage rack. I'm looking for good looks (off road lights, etc), max weight carry, ease of installation, and modular options. Any of y'all have experience with the racks and recommendations? I'd really appreciate any inputs! Thanks

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:55 PM   #2
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I have the Kargo Master Congo Cage rack. Supports up to 500 lbs. Solid as a rock. Because it is so heavy, it is difficult to put on and take off. On my JKU, the tilt back feature does not work with the soft top and even if it did, it would be too cumbersome and time consuming to take the soft top down and put it back up so it is moot. I would challenge any rack system to operate well with a soft top.

The good news is that it handles my 4 kayaks easily. I have been from MA to FL and ME with the kayaks up top and no issues...at all. For the price it delivers what you need if you are looking for a work horse. In the winter it handles two ski racks with all kinds of skis up top. Winter duty is easy compared to the kayaks in summer. I use the Yakima bar adapters sold by Kargo Master and all Yakima appliances. Overall I am very satisfied with them.

They were a no drill install on a stock jeep. The Body Armor rack at the time I purchased mine was relatively new on the scene. There was not enough published information about the installation to know if it was a no drill install. So I went with the Kargo Master.

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Ah thanks for the info! Sounds like a good all around rack.
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:45 PM   #4
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I chose the Garvin Wilderness. Family owned company. Great reviews. Great reviews on customer service. I'm very happy with the rack. I also added the wind deflector.
The rack is very well made. It's bomber, and not going anywhere! The tilt works well, but does take 2 people (as directions state). I'm very happy with my purchase.
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I have the Kargo Master Congo Cage rack...
Does it tilt all the way back?

On their web site, they show how to raise it a couple of feet (and to put a prop under the front) to be able to close the soft top.

What about tilting it farther, so the top bars are vertical? Do the hinges allow that? (I'm thinking about whether it's possible to lift the hard top off using a hoist.) Thanks, HPH
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I chose the Garvin Wilderness. Family owned company. Great reviews. Great reviews on customer service. I'm very happy with the rack. I also added the wind deflector.
The rack is very well made. It's bomber, and not going anywhere! The tilt works well, but does take 2 people (as directions state). I'm very happy with my purchase.
^ what he said & it is fantastic to load and carry Kayaks. Since the rack goes all the way to the back of the Jeep, You can lift one end of the boat up onto the rack and then lift the other end of the boat up and slide it on without hitting the roof of the jeep. I love the company and the rack system.
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Here is a link to the Garvin rack on Quadratech. First note the price. Pretty much in the $1000.00 ball park and over that once you add the Yakima or Thule bar attachments. No question about it, a great looking rack system. BUT not very adaptable. It's load limit is 300 lbs.

Check out the Congo Cage SYSTEM. The base rack is reasonably priced at well under
$500.00. There is more than one option for a cargo basket that can be added. I didn't go that route. Eventually I may but that was one reason that I liked the rack is that there was a choice about it. The load limit on the rack is 500 lbs. That means that the basic rack is really solid and can support 200 more lbs than the Garvin. That is why I said that price per feature I think the Congo Cage is hard to beat. Mine, with the Yakima adapters delivered was somewhere in the $350.00 to $400.00 range.
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^ The Congo Cage is especially attractive because you don't have to drill holes and because (at least from the install instructions it looks like) it removes with four bolts.

Again, though: does it tilt back so the top-members become vertical?

And it would be interesting to know how much it weigh. Thanks, HPH
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^ The Congo Cage is especially attractive because you don't have to drill holes and because (at least from the install instructions it looks like) it removes with four bolts.

Again, though: does it tilt back so the top-members become vertical?

And it would be interesting to know how much it weigh. Thanks, HPH
Sorry for forgetting to answer this.

The rack will tilt back quite a bit further than the two stands that hold it up in the tilt back position.

I don't know the weight but what I can say is that it is heavy and bulky. It takes four people to safely (without scratching the finish on the jeep) remove it. It has four attachment points and is easy to detach for removal.

Even if the rack could be tilted back far enough, because of the bulk and weight of it, it is not practical to take the top down and put it back up. During the summer, if I am running with the soft top on, I will temporarily take the rack off while I run around with the top down.

The good news is that the freedom panel on the hard top works with the rack in place. This past summer I never put the soft top on
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Ah! Thanks. I'm thinking that with the four detachment bolts, a properly designed hoist could do both the rack and the top (in separate steps).

Because I've not bought anything yet (not even a vehicle), I'm plotting and scheming and having a great old time. Some day, of course, the cold splash of reality will hit, but meanwhile it's a lot of fun. HPH
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^^ You're welcome.

BTW, that is the exact plan that I have in mind for mine too. Some sort of hoist for removal of the rack and top in two steps. I'm still trying to formulate that and am saving up too.
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There are several YouTube videos with home-made ones; they mimic the commercial styles, more or less. It would help to have a high garage ceiling. HPH
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You mean you've missed ALL the threads on RACOR hoists ??

Search or google --"RACOR HD HOIST JEEP"

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Yep -- that's one style, and there are plenty of others, some of the Rube Goldberg variety (quite amusing). Figuring out one that will hoist both a full-length rack and also a hard-top (which is not so long) effectively, though, makes for an interesting puzzle, for either 2-seaters or unlimiteds. And it ought to be possible to do it with Home Depot parts for much less than the commercial products. HPH
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I've used the RACOR for my JKUR and with my MBRP rack, it's a 15 minute job ALONE-now I useit for my boats


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Yep -- that's one style, and there are plenty of others, some of the Rube Goldberg variety (quite amusing). Figuring out one that will hoist both a full-length rack and also a hard-top (which is not so long) effectively, though, makes for an interesting puzzle, for either 2-seaters or unlimiteds. And it ought to be possible to do it with Home Depot parts for much less than the commercial products. HPH
However I've only doneit one time and now living in the desert, I don't want my hardtop removed-



The rack costs $99 bucks complete with lifting platform, costco/Amazon/Best Buy/ Ebay- and I used "J" hooks attached to the platform corners and it'll lift 250 lbs-

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I really like that MBRP rack -- maybe by the time I pop for a JK, they'll have them for '12s. HPH
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Yep -- that's one style, and there are plenty of others, some of the Rube Goldberg variety (quite amusing). Figuring out one that will hoist both a full-length rack and also a hard-top (which is not so long) effectively, though, makes for an interesting puzzle, for either 2-seaters or unlimiteds. And it ought to be possible to do it with Home Depot parts for much less than the commercial products. HPH
And unlike Jimbo's mine will be outdoors. Maybe use straight ropes with a locking mechanism similar to a sheet on a sail boat....maybe even a self tailing winch!
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jk'n, years ago when I was at Pearl Harbor, we modified a kids steel tube swing set to lift and hold (store) the hardtop off of a modified dune buggy-


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Look for a 3 or 4 swing set for sale(used) and toss the swings and just use the tube frame, should be high enough and different age sets are different strength piping !

It would just have to support 130lbs !

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Jimbo, I had thought of something like that, maybe even a modified chain fall rack but then I got to thinking of building a storage rack sort of thing made out of 2X4s and 4X4s so that once the rack is off it can be slid into a shelf while is up in the air. My mind is going crazy now with ideas about it. I'm going to have to start making some rough drawings. Something I can back into to make the change.
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The swing set frame is a great idea -- and, given that used ones are probably cheap, get two. Put 'em next to each other (so the legs make a sort of M), back under the first for the rack and the second for the top.

Of course, in certain neighborhoods, the neighbors would go for this like they'd go for a car up on blocks, but, what the hell... HPH
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Fortunately for me, I live in a neighborhood where my neighbors wouldn't complain...or notice!
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You know, that goes even furthur--Costco/Amazon/Ebay has 10'x20' canvas "Carports" and they are SUPER-


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The swing set frame is a great idea -- and, given that used ones are probably cheap, get two. Put 'em next to each other (so the legs make a sort of M), back under the first for the rack and the second for the top.

Of course, in certain neighborhoods, the neighbors would go for this like they'd go for a car up on blocks, but, what the hell... HPH
One of my sons got one 3 years ago to keep his boat sheltered in the back "40" and it has been/constructed/sturdy and he really likesit-

They're not expensive --2 to 300 bucks and his is COSTCO !!

Only trouble is your weather !

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Oh, man!! You mean the top isn't weatherproof?? HPH
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Oh, man!! You mean the top isn't weatherproof?? HPH
I mean the canvas shelter--snow/ice/hail/sleet/pigeons/condors---you now your normal stuff-

We only have earthquakes in Ca. and rattlesnakes/Tarantulas in the Nevada desert-

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You may be able to use something like this and make a few adaptions to be used for a 1 man hard top removal device.

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You know, that goes even furthur--Costco/Amazon/Ebay has 10'x20' canvas "Carports" and they are SUPER-






One of my sons got one 3 years ago to keep his boat sheltered in the back "40" and it has been/constructed/sturdy and he really likesit-

They're not expensive --2 to 300 bucks and his is COSTCO !!

Only trouble is your weather !

Checkemout

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I had TWO of these. I got one for camping and it is in my camping trailer. I got the other for a utility "shop" and outdoor storage. I figured I'd leave it up for the winter. Had a 20" snow storm. It looked fine in the morning with all that snow on it so I figured I'd get dressed and go clean it off. After I got dressed, I looked out the window and it was as flat as a pancake. It was too messed up to put back up in the spring. I think if I had braced it for the winter with cross supports made from the ratcheting tie downs I could have survived that one. But, it will be a while before I do another attempt at that. I'm still stuck on the lumber construction of a rack/top removal system.

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