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Old 08-08-2011, 02:16 PM   #1
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Jeep not puddle tested.

Well Wife drove through little puddle and I mean just a minor splash and here's what went out. The catilatic convert broke apart inside, gas peddle sensor went, something in the gas line to control the flow of gas pressure, something in the throttle body and the new converter was clogged from factory. The called the jeep engineers in cause now they can't get it to run. They still have the jeep and its going on 3 weeks of we don't know what's wrong. How long till I can tell them I want a new jeep?

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Afraid you'll have to ask in the TJ forum---

I don't think we can help--maybe someone can, but ask in the TJ section--

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Old 08-08-2011, 05:43 PM   #3
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We're gonna need a bit more info to give you helpful answers. Assume it is a JK? How long has she had it? Bought new or used? Still in warranty? Seems like an awful lot to happen in a little puddle. I've hit some puddles and flooded roads pretty hard even though its not the best idea and I've never had an issue. *knock on wood. Were you with her? On road or off road?
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If it's new (I think within 3 years) & they have it for 30 days or more. You can lemon law it. You should of received the booklet when you bought the car. If not, just google lemon law to find it. I think you have to give corporate one chance to fix it out. If they can't. then you can go ahead with lemon law.
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Its a JK 2011. Bought in Feb. Still under warranty. I have a list at home of parts they replaced. Looks like they didn't know what was wrong so they through new parts on it. I just got it back today so far so good.
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1-800 lemon law
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:58 PM   #7
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First thing you should do is find a similar puddle. Make sure it stays fixed.
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Found some video of click it's wife driving through the puddle...

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If it's new (I think within 3 years) & they have it for 30 days or more. You can lemon law it. You should of received the booklet when you bought the car. If not, just google lemon law to find it. I think you have to give corporate one chance to fix it out. If they can't. then you can go ahead with lemon law.
Lemon laws are different for every state. If you feel like looking into it you should check out what is applicable to you where you live. Here in NC, dealerships have 3 times to fix a problem before you can look into the lemon law on your vehicle.
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IL is 30 days in the shop for the same reason during the first 12 months.
Then the Lemon law applies
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Well Wife drove through little puddle and I mean just a minor splash and here's what went out. The catilatic convert broke apart inside, gas peddle sensor went, something in the gas line to control the flow of gas pressure, something in the throttle body and the new converter was clogged from factory. The called the jeep engineers in cause now they can't get it to run. They still have the jeep and its going on 3 weeks of we don't know what's wrong. How long till I can tell them I want a new jeep?
Are you sure it was a puddle or was it a meteor crater? To bust up the ceramic inside a catalytic converter it would have had to been quite a wallop.
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Pretty sure it's just your Jeep.....

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Old 08-09-2011, 06:42 PM   #13
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SWEET! I want to do that with mine. But heard you had to bring the breather hose for the transmission, differential, transfer case up high? Thought these jeeps were prep from the get go to do that?
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Pretty sure it's just your Jeep.....

Niiice! Can you do that bone stock?
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Niiice! Can you do that bone stock?
Read the guy's comments on the video. He is BONE stock. You have to be careful with the airbox inlet, but the best rule of thumb is if you keep the water level under the tops of the fenders, you'll be ok.
So long as you keep moving, you're not likely to get any water in the diffs.
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A Jeep will get you across the puddle, but this one will get you across the pond (assuming the rioters don't beat you to death when you get there...)
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:26 PM   #17
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So the you don't have to do anything to the jeep to be able to do that than? Besides putting a snorkeler on it if it's deeper?
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I hit a 10" deep stream in the middle of a paved road at about 15-20mph and splashed water into my air intake and seized my engine. 35 days later and an insurance claim because Chrysler wouldnt cover it and I finally got my 3 month old Jeep back with a brand new engine in it. I will never go near any water again... I am even afraid to drive it in the rain at this point.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:38 AM   #19
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Splashing through a deep puddle or stream is more dangerous than a slow and steady water fording. When you throw water up under the hood, you're much more likely to ingest water than if you submerge the engine, so long as he water level remains below the air inlet. I've hit some pretty good sized puddles, but I always try to keep the splashing down to a minimum, given the hydrolock issues with the 3.8's inlet location and terrible design. The inlet should have been S shaped, with the opening facing down and drain holes at the bottom of the bend before the air filter box. Water would then have to go up, over a bend, down and back up again, which isn't going to happen. For a few cents more, Jeep could have prevented these issues. Of course, denying claims costs them nothing in the eyes of the bean counters.

If you do a lot of water crossing, I'd recommend at least purchasing several feet of vacuum tubing from a parts store and extending all the vents up to a point on the firewall. When you're moving, the rotation of the internals and the fluid in the diffs and transfer case creates a small amount of pressure (that's why they're vented) which is usually enough to keep water out of them at speed, but when crawling through deep water, you don't want to risk it.
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I have a manual transmission. So what would be the proper way of going about this? I know I should enter the water slow so I don't force water up. Do you have to shift the transfer case shifter to a different gear? And do you shift the transmission like normal?
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Slow entry and a controlled, steady crawl through deep water is best. Depending on the water you're crossing, you might want to use 4wd. Soft creek bottoms and banks can get you stuck in a hurry in 2wd, but runoff streams and puddles are usually only wet after a rain and are a little more firm. Just remember: TREAD LIGHTLY!!! It's not only better for the environment, but you'll also find a slow, calculated approach is often better than a floor it and pray approach. I've only had to engage 4wd while wheeling a few times, and that was more to prevent a possible situation than in reaction to one. I also tend to wheel alone most of the time, so I am pretty cautious about where I go and what I try. At least until I get my winch and land anchor, lol.
As far as shifting your manual, just shift it as normal, or even slip the clutch a BIT in deep water, allowing it to build some heat between the clutch disc and flywheel. Think about how your brakes feel when they're wet. Just not too much slip, as the sudden hot/cool cycles can cause other issues. Just keep your momentum up. It's always cool to snap a picture of your Jeep sitting in the middle of a creek or shallow pond, but that's when you get stuck.
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Stock JK is rated at a maximum of 30 inches deep water, at a maximum of 5mph.

I would also not recommend operating the clutch when in water, as this will get water and debri inbetween the clutch and flywheel. For this reason, if you stall it in the middle, leave the clutch alone then shift into 4lo and hit the starter - clutch does not have to be disengaged in 4lo for the starter to work.

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