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Old 02-27-2013, 07:58 PM   #31
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Mine cracked in December with no apparent cause. My dealer sent pictures to Chrysler and they replaced it. The first 2 replacement windshields that were sent to the dealer arrived in lots of little pieces.
Don't understand why OP's dealer is being a jerk.

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My '13 had a stress crack as well. I was driving in some high wind/snow with defrost on high. My crack came from the bottom. I have full glass coverage on my insurance so a replacement windshield didn't cost me anything.
You blow HOT air directly at the base of the windshield.... Outside it's freezing cold.... The glass experiences ridiculous variations in temperature between the outside and the inside.... You have created perfect conditions for any rock hitting the glass or any strong body flex to break your windshield! It really is that simple, DONT blast heat at your windshield for long periods of time!!! Turn it on, defog, turn it towards you or your legs. If you have to keep it on the windshield, dial down the heat to lukewarm.
If you look at most cars with big cracks, they are mostly in the bottom half of the windshield where the heat from the vent was strongest.

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OP if it were me I would make the dealer replace it just to stick it to them. I would wait the weeks or whatever it takes and demand they cover it on their dime -
That makes no sense. How are you "sticking it to the dealer" and making them cover it "on their dime"? If this IS a manufacturing defect it will get repaired by the dealer but Chrysler is the entity that pays for it, not the dealer.

Consequently, I think the reason Wranglers have windshield problems is because the vertical nature of the windshield makes it a huge target for rocks and stones. I would say 95% of the windshields I have inspected for "stress cracks" have clear indications of a stone chip. And also, not only is it an issue on JK's, but also on TJ's for the same reason. I have one customer that has had his windshield replaced 4 times.

But if there was a service manager that made the decision over the phone that a crack is NOT a stress crack ... then he's just a dickhead.
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A similar thing happened to me two weekends ago. I was on the road and all of a sudden I heard a "crack." I didn't see anything at first, but all of a sudden a crack began developing in the middle of the windshield from the very bottom and began moving its way up. It made a right turn towards the passenger side and is halfway across now. I've had a damaged windshield from a pebble before and it started with a nice round fracture, but not here. It was just a straight line up from the beginning. No complaints about this on NHTSA yet. It's $500 to get replaced by Safelite via Geico. Wonder if it makes sense filing something with Chrysler?
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A similar thing happened to me two weekends ago. I was on the road and all of a sudden I heard a "crack." I didn't see anything at first, but all of a sudden a crack began developing in the middle of the windshield from the very bottom and began moving its way up. It made a right turn towards the passenger side and is halfway across now. I've had a damaged windshield from a pebble before and it started with a nice round fracture, but not here. It was just a straight line up from the beginning. No complaints about this on NHTSA yet. It's $500 to get replaced by Safelite via Geico. Wonder if it makes sense filing something with Chrysler?
Absolutely - if it's a stress crack Chrysler should fix it under warranty. The dealer will have to take pics & submit them, usually takes a few days. How many miles do you have on it? I think the windshield is only covered for 12/12, but I could be wrong.
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I'd highly recommend all wrangler drivers pay for comprehensive glass coverage. Even if this is a manufacturing defect, you don't have time to fight with the dealer. Your windsheild will explode in your face while driving to and from the dealer. If they won't fix it, then have your insurance fix it with no deductible.

I added comprehensive glass to the wrangler the day I bought it. The old vehicle did not have the level of glass coverage. I'm glad I added it, because within 4 days I had a giant chip that was turning into a crack.
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A similar thing happened to me two weekends ago. I was on the road and all of a sudden I heard a "crack." I didn't see anything at first, but all of a sudden a crack began developing in the middle of the windshield from the very bottom and began moving its way up. It made a right turn towards the passenger side and is halfway across now. I've had a damaged windshield from a pebble before and it started with a nice round fracture, but not here. It was just a straight line up from the beginning. No complaints about this on NHTSA yet. It's $500 to get replaced by Safelite via Geico. Wonder if it makes sense filing something with Chrysler?
Are you guys not seeing the trend here? A few of you have said your glass cracked from the bottom middle part of the windshield... That's exactly where your heater hits the windshield the hardest! I have seen SOOOOOO many carshere in Canada with the bottom half of the windshield cracked, and on the majority it's cracked right in the pattern that hot air hits the windshield. To me it's a no brainer why this is happening, and like i said earlier, i NEVER leave the heat on the windshield in the cold months any longer than it needs to be.

Blaming chrysler for this is dumb. It's like you using your phone in the shower every day and bitching if one day the phone got water damaged. For all anyone knows, there might have been the tiniest chip from an earlier rock, then the hot/cold como did the rest and you ended up with a big crack...
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Are you guys not seeing the trend here? A few of you have said your glass cracked from the bottom middle part of the windshield... That's exactly where your heater hits the windshield the hardest! I have seen SOOOOOO many carshere in Canada with the bottom half of the windshield cracked, and on the majority it's cracked right in the pattern that hot air hits the windshield. To me it's a no brainer why this is happening, and like i said earlier, i NEVER leave the heat on the windshield in the cold months any longer than it needs to be.

Blaming chrysler for this is dumb. It's like you using your phone in the shower every day and bitching if one day the phone got water damaged. For all anyone knows, there might have been the tiniest chip from an earlier rock, then the hot/cold como did the rest and you ended up with a big crack...
Mine cracked all by itself in the garage over night. The heat was not on.
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Had mine for a little over 2 months. Went out one morning to a 6" crack coming from the passenger side of the windshield. Suggestions on getting the dealer to take care of it? I called them the day it showed up and he said not covered under warranty..I just emailed him the link to this thread (my salesman is also a member here) and said this is apparently not an isolated issue. Hopefully they own up to it.
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1. The steep windshields on the Wranglers mean that more of the force from an impact is transmitted to the glass.
2. Any impact pit will concentrate stress and may result in a crack. Filling the pit with an epoxy helps disperse the stress.
3. Ball point pins are a great way to "feel" an impact pit - just trace the crack.
4. Impacts do occur right at the edge of the glass - I've got one at the very upper drivers side corner and Safelite says they can't fix it.
5. The factory applied adhesive job was not very uniform on my 2013 Wrangler Unlimited although it was watertight
6. The adhesive bead applied by the Safelite technician was much more uniform.
7. Everyone pulls in front of you much too quickly after passing when you are driving a Jeep
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I have two cracks on the buttom of the windshield, I'm going to wait untill spring to get a new one.Maybe Jeep will give me a new one.
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Are you guys not seeing the trend here? A few of you have said your glass cracked from the bottom middle part of the windshield... That's exactly where your heater hits the windshield the hardest! I have seen SOOOOOO many carshere in Canada with the bottom half of the windshield cracked, and on the majority it's cracked right in the pattern that hot air hits the windshield. To me it's a no brainer why this is happening, and like i said earlier, i NEVER leave the heat on the windshield in the cold months any longer than it needs to be.

Blaming chrysler for this is dumb. It's like you using your phone in the shower every day and bitching if one day the phone got water damaged. For all anyone knows, there might have been the tiniest chip from an earlier rock, then the hot/cold como did the rest and you ended up with a big crack...

No. What's dumb is that the damn thing cracks so easily. There is no excuse for this. I can't even begin to tell you how many cars and trucks I've owned and driven in cold weather. NONE of them, I will repeat that, NONE of them have had this problem. Even my corvette windshield which chevy SHAVED THINNER to save 5 pounds has zero issues with this. The truly dumb thing is pretending this is user error and not a design flaw.
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I think there's a decent likelihood of a design flaw in the windshield design. Yes the windshield is more vertical than most (so a rock will impact harder than glancing off a more slanted shield), but it also seems to crack (on a warm day on an empty interstate) without provocation.

I'm not sure if it needs a stronger frame, a more forgiving gasket, or tougher glass - I'm sure the glass engineers have an idea - and aren't talking.
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I think there's a decent likelihood of a design flaw in the windshield design. Yes the windshield is more vertical than most (so a rock will impact harder than glancing off a more slanted shield), but it also seems to crack (on a warm day on an empty interstate) without provocation.

I'm not sure if it needs a stronger frame, a more forgiving gasket, or tougher glass - I'm sure the glass engineers have an idea - and aren't talking.
Yep, I'm sure they know exactly what's wrong. Getting them to admit it is the trick. And blowing heat on an already chipped or cracked glass and it getting worse is one thing. The cracking of an otherwise perfectly fine piece of glass is another. This is a design flaw. Not user error.
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No. What's dumb is that the damn thing cracks so easily. There is no excuse for this. I can't even begin to tell you how many cars and trucks I've owned and driven in cold weather. NONE of them, I will repeat that, NONE of them have had this problem. Even my corvette windshield which chevy SHAVED THINNER to save 5 pounds has zero issues with this. The truly dumb thing is pretending this is user error and not a design flaw.
Cars in my family that have developed cracks around the heat vent: 08 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 03 Jeep Liberty, 05 Dodge Neon, 04 Dodge SRT4.... I dont know, maybe it's a chrysler thing, but if it is, the more reasons to protect yourself ahead of time imho. Not saying this is the answer to all cracks, but i feel it has an influence.
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Are you guys not seeing the trend here? A few of you have said your glass cracked from the bottom middle part of the windshield... That's exactly where your heater hits the windshield the hardest! I have seen SOOOOOO many carshere in Canada with the bottom half of the windshield cracked, and on the majority it's cracked right in the pattern that hot air hits the windshield. To me it's a no brainer why this is happening, and like i said earlier, i NEVER leave the heat on the windshield in the cold months any longer than it needs to be.

Blaming chrysler for this is dumb. It's like you using your phone in the shower every day and bitching if one day the phone got water damaged. For all anyone knows, there might have been the tiniest chip from an earlier rock, then the hot/cold como did the rest and you ended up with a big crack...
What's pretty dumb is assuming that everyone is blowing hot air on the windshield. My vent dial was set to my feet and it wasn't even on. Plus like a previous poster said, I drove around with heat on in every other car; snow, rain; dry...and it was perfectly fine. If it's heat alone that causes this, as you indicate, then that's some pretty poor glass they're using. In which case, Chrysler should absolutely be responsible.

Bottom line is there can be a million reasons why glass cracked in the first place. But when it gets to a point where multiple people are saying it's happening from the same place and in the same pattern, there may be cause for concern.

Sue, I got the Jeep in November and am right at the 4,200 mile mark so by the 12/12 coverage, maybe I can get one of the dealers here to cover it. Thanks for the good info everyone.
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I just had my second stress crack happen while sitting in the Jeep. The first one that developed last week came from the top of the windshield and I just thought that it was shitty luck and a rock must have hit my top edge in the "black". Oh well I thought. Then this second one literally happened while just sitting in the jeep from the bottom up. Weirdist thing I have seen. I'll swing by the dealer tomorrow and hope that it won't be too big of a deal.
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Mine just cracked.... Again. Third time for a 2013 using factory glass!

I spoke at length with USAA and they said Wranglers (all years)are the among the most common for glass replacement due to the steep angle.

Ugh.
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Is there a pattern to the build dates on the Jeeps that are getting cracked windshields?

Mine is a 12/12 build and the windshield is just fine. I live in the middle of California though, so not much snow/ice here.
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Is there a pattern to the build dates on the Jeeps that are getting cracked windshields?

Mine is a 12/12 build and the windshield is just fine. I live in the middle of California though, so not much snow/ice here.
Could this have anything to do with our fold down windshields? Could overtightening of the windshield frame mounting points from the factory or something similar be putting extra stress on the glass and causing stress cracks? It kinda doesnt make sense that so many ppl would get repeated cracks and others only ever get them from rocks.
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Thank goodness I haven't had this issue. I've just been blasted by the semis, but I've only got one chip so far. Whenever a semi is coming I try to get as far to the right as I can. So far it's worked.
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2 replacements in my first 2700 miles (3 windshields since January)

Insurance covered both of them.

I have a habit of keeping the defroster on (w/auto start in cold NY)

I am attempting to not "heat" the windshield anymore than needed.

The first replacement came at 2400 miles....the 2nd only 9 days later!!!

I complained to safe-lite hoping they would cover it under warranty, but they said it was started by a rock chip. I literally drove 140 miles with the 2nd windshield.

Thank god Allstate left me in "good hands"...zero out of pocket!
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My window cracked on my 2013 JK today. I only have had it 3 weeks with around 750 miles. My big concern is that with a holiday weekend this weekend....I want to make sure that I get a new windshield with the jeep logo and the little jeep climbing on the right. How do I make sure that that happens? Any ideas???
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My neighbor is on his 4th windshields since February on his 2011. At least 2 of them did not start with a rock chip. One had the smallest chip and went full crack.

Absolutely not a heater related issue here in SE Texas.
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My windshield finally gave up after 10 fun filled months and about 35k. Nothing it could have done, a douchebag was carrying gravel in his pickup and 4 paintball size rocks peppered it. One blew out part of the windshield glass on the inside... We drove on another 100 miles, 60 of which on forest road (original incident happened on paved road) until we could hit up a walmart in a small town to get some nail polish base to use as filler. We made it back in town four days later after more trails through the wild, with only one runner making it from top to bottom, the others slowed down considerably by the nail polish we kept putting on.

Why did i take the time to write this? Because these were nasty hits that cracked the glass on both sides, yet the windshield kept it's integrity and the cracks spread relatively slow despite the body flex and bumps of forest roads. It honestly impressed me. I thought for sure we'd have to stop in the first town and change it, after we got hit.

Also, once you break the first glass, you likely will not have factory glass again. You'll get factory spec glass even from the dealers, unless you pay an arm and a leg. Do the people that replace multiple windshields actually use factory glass each time? Because that would make a difference obviously...
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My neighbor is on his 4th windshields since February on his 2011. At least 2 of them did not start with a rock chip. One had the smallest chip and went full crack.

Absolutely not a heater related issue here in SE Texas.
Not trying to preach or be a jerk, but my honest opinion is, even the tiniest chips should be filled in. I know it's ghetto, but use nail polish base at least, if you cant get it filled professionally for whatever reason. It really works, and it's super easy to scrape off any excess. Like i was saying in the previous post, mine last 10 months before breaking due to no fault of it's own, and I 100% attribute it to the couple dozen "fillings" it got through it's life; not one spread, even through the brutal Canadian winter. I think the wheeling that we do, even when light, puts a lot of flex and stress on the frame, and ANY weak spot in the glass will have the tendency to grow if left unchecked.
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My daughter is on her forth winshield since the first week of June. No heater used, in Colorado, two cracked while parked at work, and two driving without passing or cars in front of her!! This is getting ridiculous!! Is it a jeep winshield frame issue, or is a bunch of bad glass being used. All have been oem style windshields with the center top jeep grill logo. Two have been low on the PS, two have been low on the DS. All generating within a couple inches of the bottom corners.
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My daughter is on her forth winshield since the first week of June. No heater used, in Colorado, two cracked while parked at work, and two driving without passing or cars in front of her!! This is getting ridiculous!! Is it a jeep winshield frame issue, or is a bunch of bad glass being used. All have been oem style windshields with the center top jeep grill logo. Two have been low on the PS, two have been low on the DS. All generating within a couple inches of the bottom corners.
There must be more to it. I replaced with an oem equivalent in june when i took those big rocks, and it's still like new. So 15 months of ownership, only issue was when big rocks smashed my oem glass. And i wheel almost every weekend, so absolutely there's something wrong if some people are blowing multiple windscreens in short periods of time
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Awesome experience today...had a small chip that I thought I should get fixed so it didn't spider out and spread. Safelite came out and fixed it up for me. Then on the way home, I take a big rocket hat pits an even bigger one in a different place...sigh...
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$141 for a new windshield (no jeep logo but otherwise the same). So if your insurance won't give you a free one, it's not an expensive piece of glass. Google windshield repair in your city, there were a few places nearby in Ohio with that price. (Needed to replace mine on my '12 before trade in on my '14)

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