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Old 03-29-2012, 08:20 AM   #1
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Jeep wrangler unlimted sharia or rubicon?

Hey everyone, this is my first post....

I'm looking to get my first jeep soon, but I can't seem to decide between sharia or rubicon. What are the advantages of both? I'm looking for something to drive to work city/highway driving, but on the weekends some off roading.

Any suggestions thanks

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Sharia? I'd stay away from the Sharia. I hear they cut your hand off if you don't treat it well.


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welcome to wf and congrats on the future jeep!

if you are planning on mainly doing highway driving and "some" off roading, you will be plenty happy with the sahara. each jeep, sport, sahara, rubicon, can drive off the lot and directly off the road in most circumstances for the new jeep owner from what I understand. the rubicon will generally be a lot more expensive for your intended use. but, whatever floats you boat...my parents are actually going with the loaded sahara because they won't ever use/need the potentials that the rubicon offers.

good luck with your decision.
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Sharia? I'd stay away from the Sharia. I hear they cut your hand off if you don't treat it well.

lmfao. wow. so. great.
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Sharia? I'd stay away from the Sharia. I hear they cut your hand off if you don't treat it well.

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Given your description I'd go for a sport....but between the two models indicated I'd go with the Sahara based on your needs.
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I just went through this decision last week and ended up deciding on the Rubicon. The Sahara might do everything I need, but I didn't know how serious I would get with off-roading and that I might regret not getting the Rubicon.

Also another thing that helped it along was I wanted Cosmos Blue, and the only option in my area was a Rubicon anyway.
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Given your description I'd go for a sport....but between the two models indicated I'd go with the Sahara based on your needs.
Why the sport? The dealer I went to suggested the Sahara because it had the features standard, unlike the sport which in order to get the same specs would cost more ... Or is that just the dealer trying to get more money.

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welcome to wf and congrats on the future jeep!

if you are planning on mainly doing highway driving and "some" off roading, you will be plenty happy with the sahara. each jeep, sport, sahara, rubicon, can drive off the lot and directly off the road in most circumstances for the new jeep owner from what I understand. the rubicon will generally be a lot more expensive for your intended use. but, whatever floats you boat...my parents are actually going with the loaded sahara because they won't ever use/need the potentials that the rubicon offers.

good luck with your decision.
What do you mean potentials?

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I just went through this decision last week and ended up deciding on the Rubicon. The Sahara might do everything I need, but I didn't know how serious I would get with off-roading and that I might regret not getting the Rubicon.

Also another thing that helped it along was I wanted Cosmos Blue, and the only option in my area was a Rubicon anyway.
What besides the color what benefits would I get from the rubicon? Like is it not as smooth as a sahara? I can't really tell the difference between the two.




Thanks for the help everyone .

So the consensus is if I'm doing more "fun" (off-roading) then "work" I'm better with the rubicon and vise versa.
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Unless you are into serious off-roading, particularly rock crawling, you'll be more than fine with the Sahara. The Rubicon is going to cost you around $4-5K more, and if you aren't going to use the extra features which are all off-road related you could spend that money or other things you will use.

It's a decision most of us faced when buying a new Jeep. I went with a Sport S and it has suited my needs perfectly. My only advice is buy what works for YOU not what someone tells you to buy and don't buy the Rubi just for the shiny stickers and never use those lockers and discos.
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Why the sport? The dealer I went to suggested the Sahara because it had the features standard, unlike the sport which in order to get the same specs would cost more ... Or is that just the dealer trying to get more money.
You can option a Sport up to a Sahara and save a couple grand in the process. Now if you have to have the Jeep leather seats and $2,000 GPS system you'll need to get a Sahara or Rubicon to get it.

Sahara is sort of marketed as the "luxury Jeep" which is why a lot of folks don't like them. They put the shiny things on the bumper and paint the fenders which rubs a lot of Jeep enthusiasts the wrong way. Although they are just as capable as any other Jeep, they tend to be the ones most associated with mall-crawling
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What besides the color what benefits would I get from the rubicon? Like is it not as smooth as a sahara? I can't really tell the difference between the two.

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Well the major difference between them is the off-roading features like the locking diffs, sway bar disconnect, beefier off-road tires, and the beefier Dana 44 front axle. I've had my Jeep for like 1 week and haven't used it off-road yet, but from what I understand they are useful for serious off-roading.

They are about 2-4k more from what I was looking at, and the general consensus is that if you want to upgrade to those off-roading features later it will cost more money.
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sport with the x package, save a few grand and use the money for the mods you need.
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You can option a Sport up to a Sahara and save a couple grand in the process. Now if you have to have the Jeep leather seats and $2,000 GPS system you'll need to get a Sahara or Rubicon to get it.

Sahara is sort of marketed as the "luxury Jeep" which is why a lot of folks don't like them. They put the shiny things on the bumper and paint the fenders which rubs a lot of Jeep enthusiasts the wrong way. Although they are just as capable as any other Jeep, they tend to be the ones most associated with mall-crawling
I'm going to stick with a gps I buy from best buy. People are saying that the sahara is more worth while for upgrading purposes then the rubicon. Is that still true for the sport?
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sport with the x package, save a few grand and use the money for the mods you need.
What is the x package? I'm sorry I'm a newbie.
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If you want a great jeep without the fancy stuff... and want to build it up yourself... get a sport (I did)
If you want a *fancy* jeep.... get a Sahara.
If you want a jeep that will make you drool every time you look at it, and it will take you darn near anywhere you want to go off the showroom floor... and it will get Ooohs and Aaaahs from everyone..... get a Rubicon.
The Sahara has huge wheels (some like 'em - many don't) that you may want to replace asap. If you go the Sahara route, think about getting the dealer to put on some Rubi take-offs...
I know quite a few folks that have Rubicons... and mostly drive on the street/highway... but occasionally go to Moab or dirt roads leading off to??? And they are MORE than happy with their decision.
Get the Rubi. Just my 2 cents.
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Well the major difference between them is the off-roading features like the locking diffs, sway bar disconnect, beefier off-road tires, and the beefier Dana 44 front axle. I've had my Jeep for like 1 week and haven't used it off-road yet, but from what I understand they are useful for serious off-roading.

They are about 2-4k more from what I was looking at, and the general consensus is that if you want to upgrade to those off-roading features later it will cost more money.
So if I want to be serious into the off roading factor its a better choice... But how is the ride on city roads, I heard that it's not a comfort ride.
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Not a fan of the Sahara matching top but if your mainly using it on-road the Sahara is the better choice. If the price isn't much difference then the I would get the Rubi just because of the option that comes standard on it. The Sahara actually has a better three year residue value then the Rubi but only slightly. The Sport beats both in residue value.

The Sport is a better model if you plan to do mods to make it the way you want it.

The Sahara has better luxury options standard, and

The Rubi has options standard that gets you rock crawling right away.

All three are great off road vehicles from the start.
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So if I want to be serious into the off roading factor its a better choice... But how is the ride on city roads, I heard that it's not a comfort ride.
I'm surprised how good it is actually. I thought with those tires it would be loud and horrible, but even at 70 on the highway it's just like a road car. The suspension is a little rougher of course, but it's a Jeep.

I would go test drive it and see how you like it, mine is my daily driver
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Not a fan of the Sahara matching top but if your mainly using it on-road the Sahara is the better choice. If the price isn't much difference then the I would get the Rubi just because of the option that comes standard on it. The Sahara actually has a better three year residue value then the Rubi but only slightly. The Sport beats both in residue value.

The Sport is a better model if you plan to do mods to make it the way you want it.

The Sahara has better luxury options standard, and

The Rubi has options standard that gets you rock crawling right away.

All three are great off road vehicles from the start.
But with the Sahara can I still do mods and get the luxury features? I want to do mods but not right away. I believe the rubi was $4K more here in Canada. Would that $4K be better off spent on some aftermarket parts?
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I'm surprised how good it is actually. I thought with those tires it would be loud and horrible, but even at 70 on the highway it's just like a road car. The suspension is a little rougher of course, but it's a Jeep.

I would go test drive it and see how you like it, mine is my daily driver
So it comes down to preference. But the test drive is my best bet I'm guessing.

When you say the suspension is rougher what do you mean.
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I'm going to stick with a gps I buy from best buy. People are saying that the sahara is more worth while for upgrading purposes then the rubicon. Is that still true for the sport?
Sport and Sahara are identical as far as upgrading.

If you are not getting the factory GPS, there are very few things you can't option on a Sport S that are in the Sahara.

And like another poster said, with the Sahara you get those 18" wheels which most people get rid of immdiately. So why pay a premium for things like that? If it was Sport S vs Sahara I think 90% on this board would say get the Sport S and put the savings into mods.

As for Sport S vs Rubicon you need to be honest about how you intend to use it. If you really think you'll be off roading a significant amount of time - go with the Rubi. Cheaper to have the mods already done for you and when you sell it you'll get some of that $ back. If you are a 95%+ on-road guy go for the Sport S. You'll get a more comfortable road ride and save a bunch of money in the process. Then you can mod it however you like. Just my 2 cents.

Where I am there aren't a lot of options for off-roading so I knew my Jeep was going live on the road the VAST majority of the time. So for me that $4grand was better spent on other things
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So it comes down to preference. But the test drive is my best bet I'm guessing.

When you say the suspension is rougher what do you mean.
Well the suspension is harder, you can feel bumps more, etc..

Best bet is to test drive it
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potentials as in the rubi offers better "potential" off roading capabilities off the lot due to stronger front axle, locking diffs, beefier suspension, etc...
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Why don't you drive both? Not a little, but go at least 2 miles down the highway and back in both? Depends what kind of ride you like...
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Ummmm... some folks that are SERIOUS off roaders choose the Sport... to build up EXACTLY as they need it. So - just sayin.... serious offroad doesn't necessarily equate to *choose the Rubicon over the Sport*... so many ways to skin the cat...
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If you can afford the extra 4-5k then get the Rubi and don't look back. How many Rubi owners say, man I wish I had the Sahara or Sport.
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Ummmm... some folks that are SERIOUS off roaders choose the Sport... to build up EXACTLY as they need it. So - just sayin.... serious offroad doesn't necessarily equate to *choose the Rubicon over the Sport*... so many ways to skin the cat...
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If you can afford the extra 4-5k then get the Rubi and don't look back. How many Rubi owners say, man I wish I had the Sahara or Sport.


I think there is validity in both of these statements. OP, it's really just a matter of what makes you happy. get what you want, just know the sahara will be everything you need with a lower price tag. good luck.
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Also take it off road somewhere and shift to 4Lo. The Rubicon case is 4:1. So it crawls very slow. Only true value is rocks and steep climbs and descents. Not very good for mud/beach running. Too low of gearing. It's called Rubicon for a reason.


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And like another poster said, with the Sahara you get those 18" wheels which most people get rid of immdiately.
Really? MOST people get rid of them immediately? I don't think that's an accurate statement. Some people do, but MOST do not. Most people buy a Sahara for a more comfy DD and could care less about the size of the wheels.

To the OP - in the simplest terms I can put it: the Sahara is made to be more comfy on the road (plusher, smoother ride) with a few more luxury type items. It is still very capable off-road. The Rubi is made to be an off-road beast straight from the lot and because of that, has a rougher ride on road. To compare the ride of the Sahara to the ride of the Rubi, think Sedan vs. Sport car. 2 types of people go for the Sport: 1) the one's who prefer the stripped down simplicity of what the Wrangler originally used to be (and prefer the black fenders) or 2) the people who really want to build up an off-road vehicle to their exact specs. These people make tons of aftermarket mods.

All are great! Just figure out what you want from the vehicle and choose accordingly.
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Also take it off road somewhere and shift to 4Lo. The Rubicon case is 4:1. So it crawls very slow. Only true value is rocks and steep climbs and descents. Not very good for mud/beach running. Too low of gearing. It's called Rubicon for a reason.


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That's a good point it also depends on where you live. Around where I live there is tons of steep hills/descents so the 4:1 would help.

If you live in Florida or something you could get by with any Jeep since it's flat as pancake

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