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Old 01-20-2012, 05:09 AM   #1
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JK Gas Tank Placement

So I was talking to a TJ owner at work yesterday who does a fair amount of wheeling and after he was done bashing my Arctic as a "car" and not a "Jeep" because it was too pretty and had too many comfort options (not to mention it's a JK and "you know what we call JK's right? The Just Kidding Jeep. Har, har." On and on...), he mentioned that there was no way he'd take a JK off road because of the placement of the gas tank under the passenger seat. I said, well get a beefy skid plate. He just shook his head and said, "I still wouldn't do it."

Can someone enlighten me - is there an issue with the gas tank placement on the JK?

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Old 01-20-2012, 06:48 AM   #2
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There is no issue with the gas tank on a JK and it already has a skid plate. Don't pay attention to jealous TJ owners.

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Jk's can be argued as more capable in stock form. The rubicons sure as hell are, needless to say tho a lot of that capability depends on driver skill and modifications
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I think you need to go wheeling with your co-working and show him whats up.
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There is no issue with the gas tank on a JK and it already has a skid plate.
See, that's exactly what I told him and he said the skid plate was crap, which is when I suggested a more beefy one.

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I think you need to go wheeling with your co-working and show him whats up.
He offered to take me, but told me I should leave my Jeep at the trailhead and ride with him cuz mine wouldn't make it. We're not talking about rock crawling here, either. I happen to believe that the biggest limitation of my Jeep right now is my own lack of off road driving experience. Then he told me to get a 2 inch body lift to which I repsonded, . I have no interest in that. It will be suspension lift or no lift at all.

I'm no expert but I feel pretty well informed thanks to this forum. Thanks for the help, guys.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:35 AM   #6
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Sounds like the guy is a douche.
I wouldn't ride with him if he has that big of a problem.
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That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. If anything, the TJ's stock gas tank placement is much worse. At least you don't have a low-hanging tank eating up clearance on your ass end. There's nothing wrong with the JK's gas tank placement. If he thinks that coming down on a rock and hitting the tank will "make it explode" then that alone says enough about his intellect.

I am a TJ owner.....with a fuel cell.
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See, that's exactly what I told him and he said the skid plate was crap, which is when I suggested a more beefy one.



He offered to take me, but told me I should leave my Jeep at the trailhead and ride with him cuz mine wouldn't make it. We're not talking about rock crawling here, either. I happen to believe that the biggest limitation of my Jeep right now is my own lack of off road driving experience. Then he told me to get a 2 inch body lift to which I repsonded, . I have no interest in that. It will be suspension lift or no lift at all.

I'm no expert but I feel pretty well informed thanks to this forum. Thanks for the help, guys.
Tell us about his TJ. The only reason for a body lift is tire clearance. Your JK already has 32's.
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That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. If anything, the TJ's stock gas tank placement is much worse. At least you don't have a low-hanging tank eating up clearance on your ass end. There's nothing wrong with the JK's gas tank placement. If he thinks that coming down on a rock and hitting the tank will "make it explode" then that alone says enough about his intellect.

I am a TJ owner.....with a fuel cell.
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AND he recommends a 2" body lift. Not a TJ owner you should be taking advice from.
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Although I've seen his Jeep in person once, I don't really know much about it. It is a good looking Jeep, though. Maybe a 2003? He mentioned that he's running 3.01 gearing with 33 inch tires, but is getting ready to switch it to 4.10's because he wants to put on 35's. I'm not sure what type of lift(s) he has or to what degree, but it's clearly lifted. I told him my JK could handle 35's with no lift and slight fender mod if that's what I wanted. I'm not sure he believed me.

At any rate, I'm sure he and I will talk more. He's really not a d-bag contrary to how I may have made him out in my rant. He complimented a lot of things about my Jeep, but him calling it a "car" really got to me and the gas tank thing simply made no sense to me so I figured I'd ask the experts.
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If he has 33's he probably has a 3" to 4" lift. You can add 33's without a lift. While you could fit 35's with trimming, a minimum of a 2" BB would be recommended.
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You should just go wheeling with him. Don't leave your jeep behind and show him you can keep up with him easily

Edit: It's not really cool to make fun of someone's car tho. It's kind of juvenile. It sounds like he took it a bit too far. My buddy likes to off road in his liberty which technically isn't as good off road, but no one makes fun of him because he likes it and has fun
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You should just go wheeling with him. Don't leave your jeep behind and show him you can keep up with him easily
Or pull him out when he gets stuck.
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If would see you in PA, I would wave since I wave to all Jeeps ,,,,,(if that helps at all)....
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Or pull him out when he gets stuck.
Always a good way to compare which is better. Then easily drive thru whatever he got stuck in
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Or pull him out when he gets stuck.
I'd leave his @$$ there unless he apologized and said the JK is just as good as his TJ, if not better in its own ways. But thats just me.

And he would NEVER live it down!
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in the late seventies i had a 72 cj, when i saw a new tj i couldn't believe how many creature comforts came from the factory, didn't seem like a real jeep. a speedometer that wasn't set in the middle of the dash, niice seats air, ect. see where this is going.

i drove that jeep (cj) from ca to nj and back a few times, learned all about wind burn, now that was a jeep. not sure why your coworker is down on jks i welcome all the improvements. rejoined the jeep world in 08 and i enjoy all the creature comforts. my 12 sport "bare bones" and 08jku sahara are far more capable, comfortable than past generations. the next gen should continue this trend.
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He's just drinking the TJ Kool-Aid. A lot of them do, and it happens every generation as indicated by Blackforestgreen above. When the TJ's came out, many in the CJ/YJ crowd insisted they weren't "real" jeeps, now it's the JKs turn.

There are a handful of things a stock TJ has "better" than a stock JK, especially a stock JKU. TJs are shorter, lighter, and less mechanically complex. That translates to some benefits in terms of offroading. But the JK has better clearance and flex out of the gate, and offers a BLD system that improves offroad traction. And while the JKU's length might not be so good on tight trails and switchbacks, it's going to be better at climbing steep hills.

Your buddy is just used to wheeling with his crowd, and they all of TJs and older jeeps, and they all look with disdain on the new ones. Perhaps in part because they can't afford them, perhaps in part because they think they're too much money to spend on something you're going to take offroad, perhaps in part because they're just not used to them, and perhaps in part because they all keep reiterating the same things back and forth.

Whatever the issue, don't worry about it. Your jeep rocks and you just need to prepare yourself for 2017 or so when you can start calling the next generation of Wranglers "not real jeeps" and brag about how you got one of the "last good ones."
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Not all TJ owners are like that. Those with some logic realize the advantages you were afforded from the factory.....a flatter belly, 'highline' fenders, no low gas tank, big ass ring and pinion gears, and a cushy interior. But as intelligent people yourselves, don't assume that all of that and more can't be done to older models. Once you start dropping money and moving away from the factory-offered vehicle, it's a level playing field.
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Agreed on all points!
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Also, early CJs had he gas tank under the drivers seat!
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Thanks for the sentiments, guys. I think you are all spot on. And in the next few years when the next gen body style comes out, if I become a d-bag about them, you have my permission to b*tch slap me. But, for now, I'll take my heated seats and use them on those chilly early spring mornings/evenings when I have the top down...sure beats freezing my butt off like I used to in my YJ.
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Not all TJ owners are like that. Those with some logic realize the advantages you were afforded from the factory.....a flatter belly, 'highline' fenders, no low gas tank, big ass ring and pinion gears, and a cushy interior. But as intelligent people yourselves, don't assume that all of that and more can't be done to older models. Once you start dropping money and moving away from the factory-offered vehicle, it's a level playing field.
That is 100% accurate and a good way to conceive of the issue.

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