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Old 07-02-2010, 07:16 AM   #1
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Hey,
So I am new here and I finally got my wranger. I have had a cherokee for a few years and enjoy taking it out to the woods and seeing what I can get into. I know alot of jeep people seem to look down on the new jk's, thinking that they don't have the off-road ability. I have not had a chance to get the new girl dirty yet, but I was just wondering what experiences you have noticed with the new jk's.

P.S. this is giving you a chance to brag.

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I am looking at getting a JK so I am subscribing. I can't wait until I see some of the responses. Oh, and congratulations on the wrangler.

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I have had no problems, although while not yet attempting to go vertical I have found it mine quite capable for what I throw at it.... The old timers here sometimes are not open to the "young minds, fresh ideas" but the'll come around to the JK.... The only thing I have thrown at mine to date is some back woods, hunting roads with a bit of mud... headding to the mountains at the end of the month with the Scouts, so hope to disappear for some trail runs while there....

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The JK is the most capable off road Wrangler built. People that don't like the JK, don't like it for other reasons. No one thinks it's not capable.
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I have hit trails, taken it out into fields of snow, sloshed around through some pretty soupy mud, done some minor hill climbing and had a blast where a friend of mine and his crew were clearing land for a new strip mall. No problems other than the first time I took her out, and that was because of the stupid grommet on the xfer case. I also just recently did a 1,500 mile trip and enjoyed that as well. Not sure what the grizzeled veterans find so wrong with the JK, but I freaking love mine.
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Like any vehicle, it'll need some work to get extreme, but it is by far the most capable vehicle on the trails out of the box, especially in Rubicon trim. I've beaten the daylights out of mine, and it keeps on coming back for more. I have a 3.5" lift (Rock Krawler), 4.88's, and front and rear lockers, and I haven't found many places that stop me that any other rig has made it up with less gear, and I am NOT that great at crawling (yet ).

A lot of people don't like them, saying they're slow. Get it re-geared. The biggest problem with the JK/LK (2/4 door) is the horrendous 3.21 standard gearing in the manual. That, and some fools slap on 33 and 35" tires without re-gearing, forget physics, and complain that their rig is slow. They need a helmet- ignore them With a chip and the right gears, you'll have plenty of poke- trust me
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I get jagged alot on this forum, and offroading for having a JK. mostly due to the plastic, and minivan engine.

when it comes down to actually wheelin' though, people shut up. it does good. the fact thst only a couple grand put into a JK turns it into an offroad powerhouse is what makes them jealous big tires are easy to fit with a small lift, and the axles are good. I'd be jealous too if I had to lift a TJ, do the suspension, and add axle gussets just to match a stock JK Sport
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That's why Peterson's Off-Road has the JK as the 4x4 of the Decade. Best Jeep yet.
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Hey,
So I am new here and I finally got my wranger. I have had a cherokee for a few years and enjoy taking it out to the woods and seeing what I can get into. I know alot of jeep people seem to look down on the new jk's, thinking that they don't have the off-road ability. I have not had a chance to get the new girl dirty yet, but I was just wondering what experiences you have noticed with the new jk's.

P.S. this is giving you a chance to brag.

What model Jeep do you have? I have a 2009 2DR X stocker, 29"tires stock haha, and it is a beast.
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No worries, Hey thanks to you as well TOW69... 30 more days and I can stop talking about Jeeps and actually drive one haha
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I got a stock 2010 2 door X with 32" onroad/offroad tires. I am eventually put some better tires on them. The day I brought it home i pulled the plugs and ripped out the carpet. My girlfriend thought I was nuts.
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minivan engine.

Why do you call it this? Why don't you call it a Dynasty engine or an Aclaim engine? It was in those vehicles also. Do you realize the 4.0 (258) was originally in the Gremlin and was also used in the Pacer?
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My '10 JK Unlimited is my 8th or 9th Jeep. I own some mining claims in the La Plata Mountains and have a run that allows me to make some direct comparisons. Except for some extra turns on tight switch backs, the JK is every bit as good as any Jeeps I've owned. The "mini-van" motor has plenty of torque and this is the first jeep where I can get 20 MPG if I keep my foot out of the accelerator. Like a lot of you out there, I listened to the naysayers regarding the engine. Quite frankly, they didn't know what they were talking about! The only accessories I added were an arm rest, TREAD LIGHTLY! floor mats and a Warn M8000 winch to rescue guys they haven't learned how to drive yet.
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Except for some extra turns on tight switch backs, the JK is every bit as good as any Jeeps I've owned.
Which is only an issue with the 4 door.
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Why do you call it this? Why don't you call it a Dynasty engine or an Aclaim engine? It was in those vehicles also. Do you realize the 4.0 (258) was originally in the Gremlin and was also used in the Pacer?
it should be called the "JK Engine" as no other 3.8 is like it. they are pretty close, but it's unique.

I call it a minivan engine...because that's what it is. everyone dogs this engine (owners of the 4.0 I6) by calling it that. I mock the attempted wisecracks. why make fun of an engine that is in a very large vehicle, has 7 people in it, and can still pull a camper up a hill?

folks hear "minivan engine" and take offense. I don't. the engine itself is just as well balanced, powerful, and reliable as the 4.0.

embrace your minivan engine.

but if you feel more manly calling it a "midsized sedan" engine, go for it
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I wheel with a lot of guys in JKs. Two doors, four doors no matter.
As stated above, out of the box they are the most capable Jeep made to date.
With a few minor mods, they are absolutely incredible.

Also as stated above, those of us who dislike them have other reasons.

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A good friend of mine climbing up a little bitty rock.
He's running a budget boost, 37's and has done a couple of small mods to the under side to strenghten weak points.
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the rock itself isn't so big, but the approach to it is mean who am i kidding, thats a big rock in my book that's a cool video, and a nice jeep. were you the one talking/filming Kate?

jeeps are jeeps. they all do good offroad. solid, straight axles, 4x4,small wheel base, and mud terrains are all ya need and all come stock.

bottom line, they wheel as good as the TJ's, YJ's, and CJ's...all top of the line IMO
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jk's rock, so don't think there's anything wrong with them just b/c a few people like to hang shite on them. I hang shite on Fords all the time but Ford owners love them.
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it should be called the "JK Engine" as no other 3.8 is like it. they are pretty close, but it's unique.

I call it a minivan engine...because that's what it is. everyone dogs this engine (owners of the 4.0 I6) by calling it that. I mock the attempted wisecracks. why make fun of an engine that is in a very large vehicle, has 7 people in it, and can still pull a camper up a hill?

folks hear "minivan engine" and take offense. I don't. the engine itself is just as well balanced, powerful, and reliable as the 4.0.

embrace your minivan engine.

but if you feel more manly calling it a "midsized sedan" engine, go for it
At least know why you are calling it that. The reason is because before the JK it was in the Caravan and still is. It was also in several vehicles before that since the early 90's. That is the reason JK detractors call it a "mini-van" engine. There is nothing wrong with the power of the engine. It has more hp and torgue than the 4.0 that preceeded it.
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At least know why you are calling it that. The reason is because before the JK it was in the Caravan and still is. It was also in several vehicles before that since the early 90's. That is the reason JK detractors call it a "mini-van" engine. There is nothing wrong with the power of the engine. It has more hp and torgue than the 4.0 that preceeded it.
I think it gets a bad wrap is because it's powerband is in a different spot than the 4.0. it likes higher revs, so folks assume it's underpowered. it's like the 4.0 in Grands. it feels much better in a Wrangler than a Grand Cherokee. I think it has more to do with stock gearing on a larger and heavier jeep than what you find the I6 in.

it really is a good engine. I've been screwing around with it alot lately learning about it. it's nice. as far as power goes, stock form with 4.10's is good. I only chipped my jeep to correct the speedo really, and help my transmission and gears deal with the new tires.

I'll agree with you in your statement too. the 3.8 has been around awhile.I think it was released what...3 or 4 years after the "modern" 4.0? it's time tested.personally, I can't think of a better replacement for the 4.0 than the 3.8 out of chrysler's line up for power and low end torque. the gas mileage is even roughly the same.

you can knock Chrysler for alot of stuff from customer service, to bad transmissions, to poor designs. but they really do make some nice engines.
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the rock itself isn't so big, but the approach to it is mean who am i kidding, thats a big rock in my book that's a cool video, and a nice jeep. were you the one talking/filming Kate?

jeeps are jeeps. they all do good offroad. solid, straight axles, 4x4,small wheel base, and mud terrains are all ya need and all come stock.

bottom line, they wheel as good as the TJ's, YJ's, and CJ's...all top of the line IMO
No, that was my "Twisted Sister" his wife. We weren't on that run, we were in Oregon at a wedding.
I love the part where the guy says "I'll bet his clutch foot is shakin"
When I get in a spot where I'm all adrenalin, my feet start shaking and my palms start sweating.

I've not gone up anything that big yet.
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The new 3.6 will certainly be interesting. I'm quite satisfied with the 3.8 but I have a 2 door and manual trans.
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Everytime I take it out someone tells me how impressed they are with how well it did on the trails. I've got a stock Sahara 4 door on 33's and a leveling kit. That's it. I've made it up hills that the TJ before me had to get winched up. I make it around the same switchbacks they do with no real problems. I wheeled with a couple of guys with JK Rubi 4 doors on 35's and 3" lifts just last weekend. I went where they went.

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Kinda new to this JEEP thing. I just bought a 2010 Wrangler Sport and dont have the money for a lift. I was wondering if anyone knows the tire sizes I can get without putting a lift on?
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The JK is the most capable off road Wrangler built. People that don't like the JK, don't like it for other reasons. No one thinks it's not capable.
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Kinda new to this JEEP thing. I just bought a 2010 Wrangler Sport and dont have the money for a lift. I was wondering if anyone knows the tire sizes I can get without putting a lift on?
32's

33's just for street. offroad you'll hit.

the real advantage the JK has over the other Jeeps is the fact not much money needs put into one. my JK with some minor mods to it kicks some a**

you guys tell the truth. 2.5" of lift, 33's or 35's, 4.10's or 4.88's, some gussets on the C's and chromo shafts and the JK becomes a formidable offroad machine. I'm already playing in rocks...none the size of Kate's "pebble" but it handles Ohio rocks well.

the only real flaw I have found in my 2 door is it's a little wide. the trails here in Ohio are all tight. they're basically quad trails. the TJ's and YJ's manuver them a bit better than even a 2 door. all in all though, I'd take that flaw over most others
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I have an 09 X 6 spd and if you question the engine, run around all day in 4H 2nd gear. That engine has such a torque band that you can crawl along at 5MPH, come to a small hill and just give it a little gas. The torque band is amazing.

I went from the worthless stock tires to 245-70 x 16, which was 2 sizes up - probably could have gone one more. Tire would be called a 31 but it is an AT, good ride yet capable off road. I don't get too extreme in mud (well, not on purpose, anyway) and have never had a problem. They work great on the highway as well.

I bought the stock X, added A/C (sucks that they make you pay extra) and Sirius. The tires were the only really expensive mod - Procomp $800. I added bumpers, a winch and rock rails. You can really fix it up for a little cash.

I have not found anyplace I was brave enough to take it that it had any problem with. You will be amazed how capable it is, just like it is. Do I like it? 1 yr old with 20K miles ...
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You'd be crazy to take them offroad. They can't handle anything difficult like chase a Unimog up a hill or something, go on a cross-country trip, pre-running in the desert, or outback adventure on a Canadian glacier.
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