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Old 06-04-2013, 08:12 PM   #1
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JK pinking when warm

Jeep Wrangler JK 2009 3.8l V6, 40,000 miles

The engine pinks at 2000 RPM when warm. I've tried a wide range of fuels, with & without added ethanol, 87-91 octane, and the fuel seems to make no difference.

No pinking at all when cold, but reliably pinks when warm under load.

I haven't replaced the spark plugs yet, but they are next on my list.

Any thoughts on cause & solution?

Thanks!

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Old 06-04-2013, 08:17 PM   #2
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Jeep Wrangler JK 2009 3.8l V6, 40,000 miles

The engine pinks at 2000 RPM when warm. I've tried a wide range of fuels, with & without added ethanol, 87-91 octane, and the fuel seems to make no difference.

No pinking at all when cold, but reliably pinks when warm under load.

I haven't replaced the spark plugs yet, but they are next on my list.

Any thoughts on cause & solution?

Thanks!
With or without A/C on? Sometimes, the A/C compressor can make some pretty f*cked up noises and vibrations.

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Old 06-04-2013, 08:18 PM   #3
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With or without A/C on? Sometimes, the A/C compressor can make some pretty f*cked up noises and vibrations.
Both, I thought it might be the AC too
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Any codes?
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Any codes?
Sadly I don't have a code reader - is there any way of reading them without one?
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Most auto parts stores will scan codes for free. There is also a method to display codes by cycling the ignition but I don't remember the details. Perhaps another member will chime in.
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Thanks, I'll get the codes pulled.
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Jeep Wrangler JK 2009 3.8l V6, 40,000 miles

The engine pinks at 2000 RPM when warm. I've tried a wide range of fuels, with & without added ethanol, 87-91 octane, and the fuel seems to make no difference.

No pinking at all when cold, but reliably pinks when warm under load.

I haven't replaced the spark plugs yet, but they are next on my list.

Any thoughts on cause & solution?

Thanks!
There are quite a few threads here on engine "pinging". Some people's engines ping and others don't. Lot's of discussions... no conclusions. If you reset your ECU (pull the battery cables off for a few minutes) then it probably won't ping for a while until the engine re-learns and leans the mixture out for optimum EPA requirements.

The engine has a 5 year warranty so let it ping away. If it doesn't eat a valve seat in 5 years your'e probably OK for the duration.

I solved my pinging problem with new mud terrain tires. They make so much noise I usually can't hear the engine ping.
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Odd that 91 octane had no effect.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:11 PM   #10
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Funny! I always thought that the OP's problem was just and only called pinging, but I've just learned that pinking is also acceptable.

Like the great Benny Hill always said,...."Learning all the time!"
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Funny! I always thought that the OP's problem was just and only called pinging, but I've just learned that pinking is also acceptable.

Like the great Benny Hill always said,...."Learning all the time!"
Wow I learned something new. I thought pinking was a type error.

Knocking (also called knock, detonation, spark knock, pinging or pinking) in spark-ignition internal combustion engines occurs when combustion of the air/fuel mixture in the cylinder starts off correctly in response to ignition by the spark plug, but one or more pockets of air/fuel mixture explode outside the envelope of the normal combustion front.

Engine knocking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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My Chevy truck was doing this and it turned out to be a bad fuel filter. Not enough gas was getting through the filter due to blockage.
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My Chevy truck was doing this and it turned out to be a bad fuel filter. Not enough gas was getting through the filter due to blockage.
I'm sure that threw a cel though

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