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Old 06-12-2014, 07:33 AM   #1
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JK's achilles heal...commuter?

When i convinced my wife to get a JK i made a keynote presentation and delivered it to her. She laughed and laughed. On one of the slides i represented how great a Jeep would be for certain new things in our life. New House, Kid, New Job. That was 1.5 years ago.

As of today our first baby is due 11/16/14. which was great until i realized how much money i needed (daycare). and you know what comes next....Today i've signed on with a new job!!


57.9 miles and 1 hr 5 minutes will be my daily commute. I've only done the commute for the interview which didn't seem terrible but i was in a euphoric state. I have no idea how much traffic i'll be hitting. I'm an IT Admin, so i'll be traveling from there once i get there.

I want some experienced commuters to weigh in with their advice. My previous commute was 11 miles, 15 minutes.

I've got crazy ideas so far, wait this out for the mythical Diesel JK and trade in unless it has IFS/IRS/alumnium unibody. an older VW TDI, Older Audi 1.8t 5 speed. Currently my Jeep is a 2013, Auto, Sahara, Unlimited, 3.73s, Hard top. with 27,000 miles. My new boss loved me but keeps saying this drive "will kill me" he also was worried about the winter drive with snow and ice.

enough rambling.


before the JK, i had a Jeep Cherokee trail rig full widths 37s, an Audi A4 2.0t modified.

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Congrats on new job and family addition!

Work remotely/from home? Some companies are really starting to open up to this idea..,just a thought to run by your new boss. Even if it is only a few days a week perhaps.

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I have a 2013 Unlimited Rubicon and I commuted ~150 km a day (~95 miles) for a few months (plus another 50-60 miles per weekend) and the $1,000+ per month in gas just got to be too much to stomach.

Now I obviously would never get rid of my Jeep, so I went out and got a commuter car -- which now allows me to leave the jeep in the garage with the doors and top off permanently -- so its kind of a win-win. My advice is to go out and find a 1999-2004 VW TDI for cheap to use as a commuter (super-economical and comfortable -- I've owned 4 of them) and enjoy the Jeep on nice days and when you need the extra space.

And if gas prices don't concern you, then comfort-wise you'd be fine in the jeep -- wind can get a bit annoying as they tend to stray, but otherwise you'll be fine.
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My drive was about the same as yours I did it for a year and realize I needed a commuter car gas was costing me 450 month but I am on 37s with 5.13 gears

I say see how it goes for awhile first then make a decision about getting a commuter
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Out of the DOZENS of cars, pickups, and SUVs I've owned...I can honestly and truly say that the JKU is one of the most comfortable I've ever owned on long trips. It's one of the few vehicles where my butt and legs don't get tired after hours in the seat. I'm 6'4" and 210 so I'm a little above average height and most vehicles cramp me up over time. The JKU is very comfy and I think it makes a GREAT commuter vehicle for that reason.

The fuel economy is the only drawback. BUT...if you keep it bone stock and stick to the speed limit at all times you can achieve close to 20 MPGs on a daily work commute and in my opinion that is not bad at all considering how versatile the Jeep is. It is better than having two cars to keep insurance and maintenance and possibly payments on.

So just drive your JKU and love it. That's my advice. But keep it stock. If you go modding it then you will start hating the commute more.
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I have a 2013 Unlimited Rubicon and I commuted ~150 km a day (~95 miles) for a few months (plus another 50-60 miles per weekend) and the $1,000+ per month in gas just got to be too much to stomach.

Now I obviously would never get rid of my Jeep, so I went out and got a commuter car -- which now allows me to leave the jeep in the garage with the doors and top off permanently -- so its kind of a win-win. My advice is to go out and find a 1999-2004 VW TDI for cheap to use as a commuter (super-economical and comfortable -- I've owned 4 of them) and enjoy the Jeep on nice days and when you need the extra space.

And if gas prices don't concern you, then comfort-wise you'd be fine in the jeep -- wind can get a bit annoying as they tend to stray, but otherwise you'll be fine.
I don't think you're going to want to rely on a 10-14 year old car to get you around that much. You never know if something that old is going to break down on the way to work. Especially with a new job. Even though I'm sure it's a fine vehicle.
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A wrangler CAN do what you want. But probably isnt the best choice.

Personally, I'd go with something more practical and efficient until the kid is three.

Putting them in car seats is challenging enough...putting then in the child seat in the back of a wrangler (even a JKU) is infuriating.

Just say no to stress wherever it can be avoided. you will have plenty that you cannot avoid.

Then...get a wrangler when the kid can climb in and out by himself.
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I had a 65 mile each way commute before. I wanted my truck 5.7 Hemi. THe cost in gas to drive to work was insane in the truck.

Gas costs in the truck ended up being $520 a month. By paying cash for an older smaller fuel efficient car, I dropped my fuel bill to $370 a month (going from 15 to 35 MPG). Insurance was like $50 a month so I still had $100 to put fuel in my truck.

Best of all, I wasn't wearing out my truck commuting and I could still take it to work every now and then to simply enjoy it.

BTW motorcycles work well to and it gives you another toy
Old tech, dual purpose bike TW200 gets 78 MPG (about $4K new and no insurance req if paid off in my state) and you can take it in the woods with your Jeep. It's even light enough to be carried on a hitch mounted rack !
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Here is my story:

I work 62 miles from home......so I commute about 125 miles a day. When I first started I got a Corrolla..........hated every minute in that car............yes it was a economy car but was not comfortable in a small car......spent about $80 a week in gas................well I wanted something bigger so took over the family explorer..........spend about $130 a week in gas...........I will add that I also had YJ......i would drive that sometimes to work on nice day but mainly on weekend........well I finally decided I wanted to drive a jeep full time..........so sold my explorer and YJ and bought a 07 JKU...........and do not regret it one bit.......gas is still about $130 a week.

All in all I am very happy driving my JKU as a commuter.....I get the same MPG as I did in my explorer and saving some with not paying for insurance and tags on 2 vechiles......now i will say that because it is my commuter that I will never run 35's or lift it......also I am very good on maintance........check under the hood every week, change oil/rotate tires like clockwork, keep windshield washer fluid full, and things like that.


Also I will say that I do pick my kids up from time to time (kids are 2 and 5)....I have no problem getting them in and out of the JKU......We even take it out on the weekends for family fun and weekend trips..........I will run it till the wheels fall off and then put new wheels on.

all in all It is up to you if it makes a good commuter.......if you can make it work money wise and comfort......then go for it!
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I commute 220 miles daily, 3 to 4 times a week. Roughly 40,000 miles a year. It is cheaper for me to buy a new commuter every five years than to put 200,000 miles on my jeep. Right now my commuter is a Nissan versa that averages 40 mpg.
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I don't think you're going to want to rely on a 10-14 year old car to get you around that much. You never know if something that old is going to break down on the way to work. Especially with a new job. Even though I'm sure it's a fine vehicle.
Nonsense. Nothing wrong with a 10 year old commuter car. I have an '02 Saturn I drive to work. Change the oil and maintain it like you should any vehicle and they will last for years. With that logic I guess my '79 F150 is about due to self destruct soon.
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You don't want to put all those commuter miles on your Jeep anyway. I'm in agreement regarding the VW TDI.
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I used to have a long long commute, drive an F150 back then and it sucked for gas and my time. Portland Oregon is in the 10 worst for rush hour traffic and I was driving through the worst of it.

I would not look at the vehicle, but where you live. I have since moved, so I was closer to the old job, which put us really close to the newer job and finally I get to work from home full time.

The commute will affect your health, not just your wallet. My recommendation to anyone facing a long commute, move so you do not have to deal with it.
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The economics usually don't work out adding a second vehicle just for commuting when you factor in the insurance, payment/cash-spent and maintenance vs what you save in fuel. I'd second the opinion of buying a previously-owned 10yr old car for a reliable commuter especially a diesel anything; when something breaks you can count on $500-$2000 deducted right off your "savings in fuel".

I commute in my JK but also have to work in the field with it (yeah I'm "off road" every week). My overall tank MPG is ~20mpg for the whole year (18mpg winters, 21-23mpg summers) and that's hand calculated with my tax-related vehicle log. If I bought a commuter, even for $2000, I'm not going to save squat and I'd be miserable driving a POS to/from work every day. No sense paying for a Jeep and not enjoying it even on the road; it's a blast to drive. YMMV.
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A commuter sounds like a great option until you are stuck driving it every single day wishing you were back in your Jeep. Every car I have purchased I bought to enjoy, not for them to sit around and wait for me to get back to them on the weekends. I daily drove a Saleen for 2 years, many people kept theirs in a locked garage. I actually enjoyed the car like I do the Jeep. You will be sad getting into your civic/corolla and waving to your jeep as you drive away each morning.
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I drive A LOT for my job. On long trips I do have the benefit/option of switching vehicles with my better half, but it's not my preference to do so. The thing about having a second car you use for a commuter is you aren't in your Jeep. In most cases I'd rather pay more for gas and enjoy the ride. I know my Jeep will get me there and back in spite of any issues with weather or even a natural disaster.
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Based on your numbers you will be costing yourself about $6500 in gas per year--so if that is the case let's assume that you get something that gets twice the mileage your gas savings would be about $3200 a year. Add maintenance, depreciation, tires, higher insurance and just driving the jeep could cost you another $3000. So let’s say you buy a beater to commute in for even $5000 and carry only liability insurance, and only require minimum maintenance for another grand--by he second year owning i it will essentially paid for itself and your jeep wouldn't be depreciated by an extra 4000 dollars because you would have kept 60000 miles off it. I say go with the beater take the hit up front and reap the benefits over time.
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Here's a simple spreadsheet a friend did when we debated this very thing. The savings are not significant when you really have to run the numbers. Then there's the stigma of driving a beater hoping nothing breaks. Some of the oft-recommended used eco cars in these kinds of discussions (Jetta, Civic, etc.) have expensive timing belt service intervals that are usually ignored by original owners; that leads to a $3000+repair vs a $1000 service. Buyer beware of used beaters to save on gas. My two pennies anyway.

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I'd buy the beater and save the Jeep for family fun. I used to commute an hour each way. I'd do it in my Rubicon if I had too but I'd rather run some beater into the ground. I owned a 2005 Dodge Cummins truck and a Hyundai at the time. The truck was much more pleasant to drive and my Rubicon would be too. But who wants to run a nice vehicle into the ground like that? I drove the Hyundai about 90% of the time. I'd take the truck once in a while and it was nice but I sacrificed to keep it low on miles and ready to do fun stuff with the family on weekends. Life is sacrifice. I think in the long run you'll save money even if the VW craps out every few years.
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Here's a simple spreadsheet a friend did when we debated this very thing. The savings are not significant when you really have to run the numbers. Then there's the stigma of driving a beater hoping nothing breaks. Some of the oft-recommended used eco cars in these kinds of discussions (Jetta, Civic, etc.) have expensive timing belt service intervals that are usually ignored by original owners; that leads to a $3000+repair vs a $1000 service. Buyer beware of used beaters to save on gas. My two pennies anyway.
Nice work! I often wondered it it would make make sense to get a beater.

I guess the best solution would be to sell the JK and then get a decent commuter... But that's no fun!
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I'd buy the beater and save the Jeep for family fun. I used to commute an hour each way. I'd do it in my Rubicon if I had too but I'd rather run some beater into the ground. I owned a 2005 Dodge Cummins truck and a Hyundai at the time. The truck was much more pleasant to drive and my Rubicon would be too. But who wants to run a nice vehicle into the ground like that? I drove the Hyundai about 90% of the time. I'd take the truck once in a while and it was nice but I sacrificed to keep it low on miles and ready to do fun stuff with the family on weekends. Life is sacrifice. I think in the long run you'll save money even if the VW craps out every few years.
And when you get old you will think back about the 90% of the time you spent sitting inside of a Hyundai when you could have been cruising around in the Jeep.
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The economics usually don't work out adding a second vehicle just for commuting when you factor in the insurance, payment/cash-spent and maintenance vs what you save in fuel. I'd second the opinion of buying a previously-owned 10yr old car for a reliable commuter especially a diesel anything; when something breaks you can count on $500-$2000 deducted right off your "savings in fuel".

I commute in my JK but also have to work in the field with it (yeah I'm "off road" every week). My overall tank MPG is ~20mpg for the whole year (18mpg winters, 21-23mpg summers) and that's hand calculated with my tax-related vehicle log. If I bought a commuter, even for $2000, I'm not going to save squat and I'd be miserable driving a POS to/from work every day. No sense paying for a Jeep and not enjoying it even on the road; it's a blast to drive. YMMV.
Agreed. Make the "sacrifice" of losing a little equity in your Jeep and a little gas money so you can drive and enjoy it!
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It definitely saves me money. I can either fill up the jeep once a week ~15 gallons or fill up the car once every two weeks ~9-10 gallons. Insurance increase isn't that much for liability. And when I move someplace else (military) I can sell it for close to, if not exactly, what I paid. Most of the depreciation has already happened.
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I drive my jeep to my morning class (about 30 minutes, taking summer classes before I go back college in the fall) then from there to work (another 30 - 45 minutes). If I take the expressway the whole way and theres no traffic it goes fine and the gas mileage isn't terrible. But I work in Chicago so the second I can't take the expressway due to traffic or exit good bye fuel economy. I had one week where I started the week averaging about 17 mpg. After the drive home on friday it went all the way down to 15.2-ish mpg. By Monday it was back up to 17.8.
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Just my opinion but I bought by Jeep to drive it. I drive a ton of miles during the summer (Internship in Houston, family in Austin, friends in Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio) but I enjoy them.
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My '14 Sport S 2-door is my daily driver, and the only vehicle I own. I commute 22 miles to and from work M-F. I go through a tank of gas once a week and I'm currently getting 21.2 mpg. I have stock 17"s and tires, but I did install a Magnaflow 15160 cat back exhaust that's given me 1.2 mpg more than the stock exhaust was giving me.
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I'd start with the Jeep and see how it goes. I commute only about 10 miles/day during the school year but about 40 in the summer. I love driving the Jeep. Sometimes I take my wife's Mini (also lots of fun). I tell her it's to save gas, (it gets about 10 more mpg) but it only saves about a gallon per day.

As far as comfort, I've had VWs, Hondas etc but never anything really cushy like a Caddy so I can honestly say the Wrangler is as comfortable or more than any other car I've had. I'm 48 so in 10-15 years the Jeep may not work for me but it's great for now.

A JKU is perfect for our family. It's great for towing our snowmobiles, and gets 4 of us plus our lab (and all our stuff) to VT in any weather, in comfort. The only downside is the gas mileage. I teach, so during big snow storms when we don't have school, my wife can take it and I don't have to worry. Practical and fun!
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Lemme chime in on the beater, too.

Even if you live in the Great White North, a beater makes sense for driving in fair conditions and clear roads. Don't worry about the paint or peeling vinyl (that's what duct tape is for) when you have a chance of poor weather or road conditions you can opt to commute a day or two in the JK. But for the luvvagod, don't burn out your OHV doing 100+ miles a day on pave. I see people do that all week long and can't figure it.

I do 400miles a week in a dub rabbit. It's easy on the gas, reasonably comfy, competent in rain and has enough space to carry stuff or extra passengers without a problem. It's got 200K+ on it since replacing a fried Volvo (which replaced a fried Dakota PU) with it.

I'll have a bright shiny JKUR in a few months and that baby will only go in to work on rare occasions (and those long summer days when I can take the afternoon off and go play in the OHV park.)

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