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Old 12-05-2010, 11:02 PM   #1
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JKU Rubicon Puts Winter Ice and Snow on Notice!

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OK, so there has to be a reason for this type of expense. The way this got started was last year when I was going to see my son ski for his high school varsity ski team, I got onto 91 North out of Springfield, MA towards Holyoke and as I drove I noticed that I was driving towards a nasty looking dark gray cloud bank. All of a sudden, there was white out conditions. I slowed to about 40. As I drove I noticed that the snow was beginning to glare on the surface. I slowed to 20mph. The car behind me went into the passing lane then must have thought better of it and pulled back in behind me. There was a line of about seven cars behind me now. As we drove there were at least 20 cars off of the road both in the median strip and on the right side in all sorts of states of being stuck but thankfully no major impacts. As I continued on, eventually conditions got better on the highway. Once I turned off onto the state road that leads to the ski slope, conditions were extremely slippery. I didn't mind the going slow part but the uncertainty of not being able to hold traction on hilly terrain was pretty unnerving. This is what got me started on the winter tire with studs bent. This was the second instance of being on ice unexpectedly within a year. I am now a ski patroller at a local mountain and may be called out at any time to respond to an emergency on the mountain. I want to be able to respond without too much worry about slipping off of the road. I also do volunteer for my city emergency management agency during weather emergencies. I will now be able to drive key emergency medical personnel to the local hospitals where they are needed during weather emergencies.

900 265/75R16 Mastercraft Courser MSR Studded Tires
125 5 JK Steel 16 Wheels Pulloffs from Craigs List (local purchase)
324 4-TPMS Stems with mounting hardware

1349 Total

It's a jeep! For those that comment on price....get used to dumping money into it to get the results that you want.

Notice the ski racks up on the top. That is a major reason for the tires. The rack is a Congo Cage with Yakima adapters and bars. The racks are Powderhounds. One large and one small rack.

I am a careful driver so putting these tires on my jeep doesn't mean that I'm going to drive like a mad man just because I can. After all, I still want to get there. I had a chance to check out the capabilities of the tires today on the mountain where I am patrolling. They are building a new patrol hut at the top of the mountain and I got to drive to the top. They were pulling all of the excess construction materials down before closing the mountain down to vehicle traffic on work crews. Snow making has begun. The jeep went up and then back down without slipping at all even in the steep areas, even the ones that showed slipping tracks in mud from previous vehicles using the access roads. I'm very pleased with them right now. I'll report back to this thread as the winter progresses to cite examples of winter driving experiences where the tires really made the difference. My stock MT tires/wheels will go back on this spring.

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Old 12-06-2010, 04:20 AM   #2
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Cool.
When I lived "up north" years ago, I ran studs in the snowbelt as well. Front-drive car pulling Jeeps out of a ditch ---- lotsa laughs...

Andy Goldfine at Aerostich sells studs and a tool to insert them if you want to service the little devils yourself.
There are likely other retailers and devices available too.

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Old 12-06-2010, 08:16 AM   #3
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You'll lovem, my dad used em on his jeep in Portland Ore 1950 and they'd last a couple years, then the snowbelt/ice stopped bombarding Portland, but

If you've got the "extra" set--they can be lifesavers-doesn't matter that your jeep can go thru 5' of snow, driving on ice takes studs/chains and the studs are SO MUCH more convenient !!

Good move

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Old 12-06-2010, 08:22 AM   #4
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Looks like a wise investment decision. And I am sure the locals greatly appreciate your voluntary services. Have fun and be safe
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Cool. Looks like you'll go anywhere with those.

One question, if I may: How did you determine the tire size for the 16" steelies? Can I assume you did NOT have to modify your speedo when switching from the 17" stockers?

Thanks.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:11 PM   #6
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Cool. Looks like you'll go anywhere with those.

One question, if I may: How did you determine the tire size for the 16" steelies? Can I assume you did NOT have to modify your speedo when switching from the 17" stockers?

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I asked the clerk at Town Fair Tire verify the tire profile. I told him that I wanted the same overall diameter as the original tire. He didn't have to look far. There were two tires listed for the JKU for that year and both had the same overall diameter one for 17" wheels and one for 16" wheels.

BTW, they said that if I didn't purchase the wheels from them, they would not put them on my vehicle. They would mount the tires but I would have to put them on the vehicle. When I stated to them that they were original equipment "pull offs" and were jeep badged, he said that would be OK. But nothing after market. They have issues with their insurance carrier if they were to do that. The same thing with spacers. They wouldn't touch them. With these tires I was more into function rather than form so when I went looking for wheels I specifically went looking for a set of steel pull offs. I figured I'd find them at a good price. Can barely tell that they were used.
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Since a picture is worth a thousand words (and in this case a thousand greenbacks +) I'll post those first.

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OK, so there has to be a reason for this type of expense. The way this got started was last year when I was going to see my son ski for his high school varsity ski team, I got onto 91 North out of Springfield, MA towards Holyoke and as I drove I noticed that I was driving towards a nasty looking dark gray cloud bank. All of a sudden, there was white out conditions. I slowed to about 40. As I drove I noticed that the snow was beginning to glare on the surface. I slowed to 20mph. The car behind me went into the passing lane then must have thought better of it and pulled back in behind me. There was a line of about seven cars behind me now. As we drove there were at least 20 cars off of the road both in the median strip and on the right side in all sorts of states of being stuck but thankfully no major impacts. As I continued on, eventually conditions got better on the highway. Once I turned off onto the state road that leads to the ski slope, conditions were extremely slippery. I didn't mind the going slow part but the uncertainty of not being able to hold traction on hilly terrain was pretty unnerving. This is what got me started on the winter tire with studs bent. This was the second instance of being on ice unexpectedly within a year. I am now a ski patroller at a local mountain and may be called out at any time to respond to an emergency on the mountain. I want to be able to respond without too much worry about slipping off of the road. I also do volunteer for my city emergency management agency during weather emergencies. I will now be able to drive key emergency medical personnel to the local hospitals where they are needed during weather emergencies.

900 265/75R16 Mastercraft Courser MSR Studded Tires
125 5 JK Steel 16 Wheels Pulloffs from Craigs List (local purchase)
324 4-TPMS Stems with mounting hardware

1349 Total

It's a jeep! For those that comment on price....get used to dumping money into it to get the results that you want.

Notice the ski racks up on the top. That is a major reason for the tires. The rack is a Congo Cage with Yakima adapters and bars. The racks are Powderhounds. One large and one small rack.

I am a careful driver so putting these tires on my jeep doesn't mean that I'm going to drive like a mad man just because I can. After all, I still want to get there. I had a chance to check out the capabilities of the tires today on the mountain where I am patrolling. They are building a new patrol hut at the top of the mountain and I got to drive to the top. They were pulling all of the excess construction materials down before closing the mountain down to vehicle traffic on work crews. Snow making has begun. The jeep went up and then back down without slipping at all even in the steep areas, even the ones that showed slipping tracks in mud from previous vehicles using the access roads. I'm very pleased with them right now. I'll report back to this thread as the winter progresses to cite examples of winter driving experiences where the tires really made the difference. My stock MT tires/wheels will go back on this spring.
Now there is a man with a plan. nice job JK'n

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Old 12-06-2010, 02:41 PM   #8
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Good going JN'!!!!!!! If you never had snow tires before,,, your going to be amazed!

Your Jeep should be unstopable,,, but with great stopping power!!!!!!

Let it snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the clarification, jk'n. I like the take-offs as well. If I ever choose to go with dedicated snows, this is the route I'd go as well.

Thanks again.
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I have the exact same tires on 17s but not studded, here in canada they're called motomaster total terrain WS, they are winter dedicated and I chose them because they're one of the few that have 17/32 tread depth. I'll take pictures this week and post them here, haven't had a chance to try them in heavy snow yet.

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