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Old 06-14-2013, 07:11 AM   #31
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Get the Jeep. It will put a smile on your face every day. Anything else will put a grimace on your face every day, as you mutter to yourself, damn I should have got that jeep.

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Prior to owning my JK I drove and Xterra and an FJ Cruiser. I traded the FJ after 11 months for a few reasons; 1) the blind spot is awful.. You could literally fit a Mack truck in it.. 2) The suicide doors are super annoying.. If you have a back passenger you have to get out and open your door first every time 3) The FJ has 3 windshield wipers which is super distracting and annoying

That's just my feedback The JK is the best vehicle I've owned. It a great winter and summer vehicle.

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Well, of course most of the opinions here will be biased. But not the information. Wanted to sell my F150 Supercrew lariat that I had been driving for almost 10 years. It served me well, wife, 2 kids, a 100lb bernese mountain dog, and a travel trailer. We sold the TT a few years ago but I still used the truck bed for lots of stuff. However, I was really wanting to go with some type of SUV that I could use as a DD and also go in the woods and girt roads to go hunting, but also take the family on tent camping trips.

I was always a huge admirer of the olden FJ40 so the FJ cruizer was very high on our list, but after a long test drive with the kids, the blind spots were a little unnerving, and the Suicide doors made it very impractical with the kids. So the FJ was out. We also tried a 2013 4Runner Limited, that was very nice. Lots of cargo, nice ride lots of power, and lots of $$$. I could easily gone for the 4Runner, but to bring it in our price range, we had to cut out too many features. My wife said that Highlander made me look too old, plus it does not have a truck frame.

We almost went for a demo Fully loaded (Way too loaded) 2012 Pathfinder (Still had a real frame in 2012) but it was black. Although I like to look at a black truck, I do not want to have to maintain it. But it also had lots and lots of features, nice ride, tots of power and towing. Had it been the right color, we might have driven off with it.

So we finally decided to order a Jeep. What convinced me? well, when we were still not sure, every time we passed by a jeep, I'd always do a double take. Beiong able to take the freedom panels off was not a big factor before, but now that I have a few times, yee-haaa. I did get the dual top option, and I'm putting the soft top on tomorrow, so I can't wait to try that out now. I'm getting so many inquiries about my jeep from my co-workers, that I'm sure I would not have gotten with a pathfinder or a 4Runner.

So all in all, I'm really happy with my Jeep. Even with it's compromises (Cargo space being the biggest compromise), there are also many bonuses. (Fun being the Biggest bonus)

I got myself a Utility trailer, so I adapted the biggest compromise, and I can still have lots of fun.

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Let's cut to the chase here. The Tacoma makes you look like a general contractor, and the FJ Cruiser makes you look like a man who wears trousers with an elasticated waistband because they're just so darn sensible.

The Jeep is the only one of the three that will make women want to have sex with you.
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I sold a TRD OR to buy my Rubicon. It was a 2011 with about 29K on it. Smelled new. I had a nice Leer topper on it. I was researching the best way to lift it, throw on some decent rubber, skid it up, regear it. Etc.

Then I realized that even after I did that, it still wouldn't be a Jeep, and a Jeep is what I wanted. (I had built out an XJ before, but as much as I loved it, it still wasn't a Wrangler, and that's what I should have gotten from the get go).
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Let's cut to the chase here. The Tacoma makes you look like a general contractor, and the FJ Cruiser makes you look like a man who wears trousers with an elasticated waistband because they're just so darn sensible.

The Jeep is the only one of the three that will make women want to have sex with you.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:52 AM   #38
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If you can live with the compromises the Wrangler is far and away the most fun vehicle. If towing and daily driver comfort are higher priorties get the Tacoma. Both were very high on the list of high resale.

After 5 years the Tacoma retains 60.2% of its original value and the Wrangler 56.5% with the 4runner holding 51.5%. The FJ didn't make the list.

What cars and trucks are tops on resale value?
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Most people really struggle with understanding the key to happiness. It is actually very simple. Learn what the key to misery is and DON'T do that. What is the key to misery? Easy. Put all of your time and effort into pleasing everyone but yourself and you will be one miserable person. As a corollary, don't place your happiness in other people's hands. Yes a great relationship can bring a lot to your world but don't depend on that for internal happiness. When the sun is shining and you want to take your new, awesome jeep out for a ride, don't pout because you don't have anyone to go with you. Take an easy trail and enjoy the splendor of the world we are lucky to live in.

I have spent many years in cold, rainy, way-left leaning Seattle. I have really had enough over the past several years. I decided to move to Colorado or Spokane, Washington about two years ago. It has taken a lot of time but my plan is in motion. My house goes on the market today and I expect to be moved and living my new life in one to two months. I also intend to add a jeep to the equation. Unfortunately I can't afford Colorado but Spokane has a lot of outdoor opportunities. Bottom line is that this move wasn't going to happen on it's own, I had to make it happen every step of the way and I am glad I am doing so.

Making "that decision," whatever it may be, can be very difficult. Asking for advice from others won't necessarily help. They'll simply give you their perspective on the limited amount of information they have on your situation. About half the people I have told of my plans have said way to go and the others have said you are leaving your family behind (brother, sister and Dad, I don't have a family of my own). Well I am not going to stick around this area for my brother and sisters benefit. I told my doctor this on Tuesday as he removed lipoma number 40+ and he winked at me and said, "My relationship with my family was never better than when I was on the East Coast going to medical school." 'nuff said.

We all get only one go around at this thing called life. Get the jeep. Even if it doesn't work out you'll have learned from your purchase. If you don't buy one you'll always wish you had. Often times it is the things we don't do in life we regret, not the ones we did.

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Lost my sales job last October, wife stole all our cash and filed for divorce, went to divorce court last Friday, she lied like a dog but got caught, I told the truth.

Just had new job Interview and hope to be off the dole with a good car allowance.

I want to do something for ME for a change, never opened a jeep but really see the wrangler as putting a smile on my face. Also looking at the Toyota FJ cruiser and Toyota Tacoma. Uses will be some everyday driving in southern CA, towing my Sylvan Sport mobile adventure trailer, towing a 2500 lb boat short distances.

Above all factor is fun, been to damn practical all my life. Comments?
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With the wrangler, you can choose the way your vehicle looks based on the mood you are in at the moment...who doesnt want that?
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:37 AM   #41
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:18 AM   #42
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You care clearly going to get a biased opinon on a Wrangler forum...and for your particular use, one of the Toyo's would probably be better.


However, given your location......that ability to be top down ALL the time would push a Wrangler to the top of the list.

Isn't like 78 degrees and sunny every day in San Diago? Just get a 4 door with 3.73's those can pull 3500 pounds.
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Let's cut to the chase here. The Tacoma makes you look like a general contractor, and the FJ Cruiser makes you look like a man who wears trousers with an elasticated waistband because they're just so darn sensible.

The Jeep is the only one of the three that will make women want to have sex with you.

Oh by the way. Posted this quote on my jeep page... got quite a few likes, and one of my buddies who drives a taco IS a general contractor. He thought it was funny too. He wheels his though... and it's on 35s. respectable.
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2) The suicide doors are super annoying.. If you have a back passenger you have to get out and open your door first every time
rear quarter doors are the.friggen.WORST. Had them on my previous vehicle, Mazda B4000

Try pulling your stuff out of your backseat after you pull into a parking space, you have to squeeze yourself around the front door and wedge yourself in between...never again.

Max tow capacity on a wrangler is what...about 3500 lbs? if towing anything bigger than that is a CTQ, get something else.

As far as I know, and Jeep has adopted this advertising logo, Jeep makes "the only open air 4x4 on the market".

there is only 1 vehicle, choice is made FOR you, haha, jk, but seriously...get the Jeep
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:44 PM   #45
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If your primary goal is to have fun, then you answered your own question, JEEP!. I'm not biased by the way, as there are numerous scientific studies that have shown the Jeep is far more fun than the other two vehicles you mentioned. And yes, girls dig Jeeps! Bonus!

All this aside, I think Woansleftpeg may be the wisest man I've ever encountered. And I didn't even have to climb a tall mountain to reach him......
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The Wrangler is definitely your choice for fun - just no room for debate. Just know that it is not the best tow vehicle you could drive. Since you do prominently mention towing, you probably should not be looking at a 2 door. As someone else mentioned the 4 door sucks a little less for towing.
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So Many Thanks - Freedom!

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to write, share your opinions, ideas, wisdom, and some great humor.

I am waiting for the job offer and the judge to decide my entire life's work. That, said, no doubt this post and all the replies have been a great help!

I am definitely going to get the 4-door unlimited, and taking the top off is so important. And what is the REAL reason, well I am of proud Scottish decent, and a quote from William Wallace at the end of the Braveheart, FREEDOM!!!!

I can see myself riding in that jeep with the top down, and a cool breeze blowing up my KILT! Heading back to camp for a cold beer and a fine glass of Scotch.

FREEDOM - Can you hear me out there!

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Buy a Jeep and if you don't like it three years from now, you can sell or trade it for most of the money you paid for it. You'll lose very little cash. Lots of used buyers for a Wrangler. If you like it, you can mod it from next to nothing to all out. Exudes automotive personality and can be configured to suit your needs from an RV tow car to a rock crawler.

Buy a Tacoma and if you don't like it three years from now, you will have a compact truck in nation that prefers full size trucks. Resale value is good, but not as many buyers for them. Yes, it will tow more, but it won't be as spacious and it is still a truck. Worse turning radius than a JKU and while it can off road, it can't do what a Jeep can do. A truck and a Jeep have very different purposes, so know what you want first. Independent front suspension is a drawback.

Buy a FJ and if you don't like it three years from now, you'll have a SUV that has a smaller enthusiast base and fewer potential buyers, has awkward doors, a horrible blind spot, isn't as roomy as it looks, and has worse mileage than the Jeep. Great highway ride, but it lacks 'personality' and is typical Toyota 'bland'. I still question how long Toyota will support the FJ, since Toyota is about total sales numbers and the FJ is a dated retro design and can't be readily updated. Jeep IS the CJ/Wrangler and would have gone out of business long ago without them.
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Buy a Jeep and if you don't like it three years from now, you can sell or trade it for most of the money you paid for it. You'll lose very little cash. Lots of used buyers for a Wrangler. If you like it, you can mod it from next to nothing to all out. Exudes automotive personality and can be configured to suit your needs from an RV tow car to a rock crawler.

Buy a Tacoma and if you don't like it three years from now, you will have a compact truck in nation that prefers full size trucks. Resale value is good, but not as many buyers for them. Yes, it will tow more, but it won't be as spacious and it is still a truck. Worse turning radius than a JKU and while it can off road, it can't do what a Jeep can do. A truck and a Jeep have very different purposes, so know what you want first. Independent front suspension is a drawback.

Buy a FJ and if you don't like it three years from now, you'll have a SUV that has a smaller enthusiast base and fewer potential buyers, has awkward doors, a horrible blind spot, isn't as roomy as it looks, and has worse mileage than the Jeep. Great highway ride, but it lacks 'personality' and is typical Toyota 'bland'. I still question how long Toyota will support the FJ, since Toyota is about total sales numbers and the FJ is a dated retro design and can't be readily updated. Jeep IS the CJ/Wrangler and would have gone out of business long ago without them.
it seems the FJ has surpassed the wrangler in resale value. I do know that if you try and trade a 21013 JKU the dealers will tell you they are not worth squat. Never buy any vehicle with hopes that it will hold its value. Toyota has already announced it is axing the fj tho.

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Hit the gym, get thin, buy the jeep, and then pop the doors off. I always enjoy driving my jeep -- and you only get envious of other jeeps.
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Well, I have also been there brother...and taken to the cleaners...hard.

I already had a jeep, but as soon as I got back on my feet financially, I bought another...and then bought a motorcycle. I also got a ton of new hobbies and spent a lot more time with family and friends...and it was awesome. Swore that I would never get married again.

Of course, never say never...cause chicks dig jeeps (and bikes)...so I ended up getting married again...but this one is probably a keeper, because last Labor Day when she asked me what we were doing that day, I said driving 70 miles to go buy a new Rubicon...and she said "let's go!"

Keep your chin up man. It gets better. Much better.
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Thanks to all of you for taking the time to write, share your opinions, ideas, wisdom, and some great humor.

I am waiting for the job offer and the judge to decide my entire life's work. That, said, no doubt this post and all the replies have been a great help!

I am definitely going to get the 4-door unlimited, and taking the top off is so important. And what is the REAL reason, well I am of proud Scottish decent, and a quote from William Wallace at the end of the Braveheart, FREEDOM!!!!

I can see myself riding in that jeep with the top down, and a cool breeze blowing up my KILT! Heading back to camp for a cold beer and a fine glass of Scotch.

FREEDOM - Can you hear me out there!

Cheers.
Perhaps a glass of the Ardbeg, or maybe the Oban........ Or my personal favorite, Laphroaig?!?

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Wish the best for you. Just separated after 23 years and move 2300 miles away back to the northwest. Good thing is I bought my first Jeep.
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Let's cut to the chase here. The Tacoma makes you look like a general contractor, and the FJ Cruiser makes you look like a man who wears trousers with an elasticated waistband because they're just so darn sensible.

The Jeep is the only one of the three that will make women want to have sex with you.
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It works both ways. A lady's hotness is also increased exponentially if she's driving a Jeep.

Just like clothing, all vehicles say something about their driver whether we like it or not. Driving a Wrangler immediately tells me that someone has an innate sense of fun, and a willingness to sacrifice a certain amount of sense and practicality in the pursuit of a good time. That's the sort of person I want to hang out with.
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I like the FJ. Don't like driving it. Tacomas are great trucks, but I wanted a jeep since I was 16. It took 30 years but I finally got a jeep. Got a TJ cause it was cheaper and in my budget. I hope your new life is all that you want it to be. Getting a jeep WILL help you enjoy life more fully and you will meet some fun people. I really like the JK and look forward to getting one in the next few years.
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Well, I have also been there brother...and taken to the cleaners...hard.

I already had a jeep, but as soon as I got back on my feet financially, I bought another...and then bought a motorcycle. I also got a ton of new hobbies and spent a lot more time with family and friends...and it was awesome. Swore that I would never get married again.

Of course, never say never...cause chicks dig jeeps (and bikes)...so I ended up getting married again...but this one is probably a keeper, because last Labor Day when she asked me what we were doing that day, I said driving 70 miles to go buy a new Rubicon...and she said "let's go!"

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Wish the best for you. Just separated after 23 years and move 2300 miles away back to the northwest. Good thing is I bought my first Jeep.
A 100 miles for each year? Sounds like and idea

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