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Old 04-21-2011, 10:19 PM   #61
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That would probably make removal of the top a lot faster. Let me know what you come up with. The only thing I've added to mine is 1 1/4" square tubing for strength. Total weight added was 14 lbs.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:17 PM   #62
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dude the directions suckkkkk. found a link to the costco directions with video: Costco - Racor ProStor Heavylift

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here's what i did. i didn't want to mess with putting the basket together.
AND i wanted the ends to extend past the top's front and back.
so i used 2 - 76" long 2x4s AND the 2 pieces of square tubing that came with the RACOR lift. run the cable through the holes drilled just large enough for the cable to pass through. i used some load bearing clips for strap ends.





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Old 04-22-2011, 11:12 AM   #64
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That would probably make removal of the top a lot faster. Let me know what you come up with. The only thing I've added to mine is 1 1/4" square tubing for strength. Total weight added was 14 lbs.
I tried to put that cage assembly together and when i cranked down on the j-hooks the bars would rotate. I am going to add holes to that when the jhooks are cranked the load will be centered. then i think i would like to add some square tubing like you did. good idea.
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I tried to put that cage assembly together and when i cranked down on the j-hooks the bars would rotate.
I was having this same issue and when I called RACOR the woman on the phone knew exactly what I was talking about. She was very nice but told me that they are not meant to be cranked on (and agreed the directions are very vague). I actually threw out the J hooks and purchased U bolts, drilled the extra holes and they worked perfectly. Just something to consider.
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I was having this same issue and when I called RACOR the woman on the phone knew exactly what I was talking about. She was very nice but told me that they are not meant to be cranked on (and agreed the directions are very vague). I actually threw out the J hooks and purchased U bolts, drilled the extra holes and they worked perfectly. Just something to consider.
Yea it looks like the hoist is the genius of the system. i am trying my hardest not to redesign the friggin rack. i drilled some more holes and it prevented the translation under load. still doesnt prevent it from revolving but i guess thats not an issue once the cables are in place. I better get the sucker up before mission creap sets in.

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Thanks for this thread-Im installing the same unit next week and you guys were the guinea pigs. Quick question: since the roof truss bottom memners are only 1-1/2 wide (24" o.c.), will the lag screws have enough material to secure to? I was thinking about going up in the garage attic and laying 2x6s across the bottom members and hanging the hoist from those with 3/8 rod, but Im not looking for extra work.
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Thanks for this thread-Im installing the same unit next week and you guys were the guinea pigs. Quick question: since the roof truss bottom memners are only 1-1/2 wide (24" o.c.), will the lag screws have enough material to secure to? I was thinking about going up in the garage attic and laying 2x6s across the bottom members and hanging the hoist from those with 3/8 rod, but Im not looking for extra work.
If you hit the trusses in the center, then yes, they are strong enough. If, for some reason (roofers do take shortcuts or the center of the lift doesn't end up where you want it), then laying the 2x6s is your better alternative. Just remember to anchor them with a minimum of 3 12d-16d nails into the top of the trusses. On each truss that the 2x6 lays on.

You don't want it shifting when you start cranking the lift.
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Seadog: thanks for the reply. Change of subject: Isn't your Jeep called Crush? I saw another post where they recently came up with the same name thinking it was original. There can only be one.
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Where you able to hook your drill to it like the picture shows? I may have to make some kind of rod for that too.

I bought this same hoist ($70 surplus) and have it installed, but I can't lift mine like yours. I need to find some kind of hooks to latch on to the bottom of the hard top.
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Where you able to hook your drill to it like the picture shows? I may have to make some kind of rod for that too.

I bought this same hoist ($70 surplus) and have it installed, but I can't lift mine like yours. I need to find some kind of hooks to latch on to the bottom of the hard top.
Yeah, I can use my drill if it has a full charge. Have any pics?
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No pix yet. Haven't had a chance to test it out yet. I will post later.

Reason I asked about the drill, is that the rod is too big for my drill. :-(
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Ok, so I installed my Racor lift last night...Although the hoisting mechanism seems quite solid, those j-bolts they supply are complete POS...and the positioning of those J-Bolts on the rectangular bar is also sh*t...i just might go the u-bolt route myself.

One question though...what length ratchet straps are you guys using with this system to secure the hard top to the platform?
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:19 PM   #74
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I'm using 12 foot straps on mine and it's just long enough.
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Ok, so I installed my Racor lift last night...Although the hoisting mechanism seems quite solid, those j-bolts they supply are complete POS...and the positioning of those J-Bolts on the rectangular bar is also sh*t...i just might go the u-bolt route myself.

One question though...what length ratchet straps are you guys using with this system to secure the hard top to the platform?

Go with the U-bolts, you'll be much happier.

I originally had heavy duty (10000lbs break strength!), 16 foot, straps, but it was overkill and too much to deal with. I ended up with the 12 foot medium duty (3000lb break strength) and it is still plenty. I have had my roof off for 2 months now, hanging in my garage the entire time, and all is good.
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Great, 'cause I bought 14ft/3000lb straps. Thanks a lot.

Now i can only hope my kids don't play pinata with the top.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:00 PM   #77
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I saw on another post about the straps (4 pk from Lowes/Home Depot... $15) going from front to back under the top, but my top kept wanting to tilt back since it's a lot heavier than the front.

This is what I ended up doing:

I bought a 10' pc of uni-strut and cut it in half, so that they would overhang to keep the straps from rubbing against the top.
I decided to go ahead and mount the shelf and only used 3 of the "j"hooks on each side.




Now I can store my farm jack and 2 front panels of the hard top on the shelf on top of an old moving blanket.



Using the ratchet straps to hold the top and a bungee cord to keep the window closed. (if open, it was in the way of cranking the hoist)



Note the CJ7 front grille cover on the wall.

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sweet setups. for what it is worth, you can get the Harken hoist from Amazon for $106 at the moment. Not as beefy a system as these though. I got it installed a couple weeks ago and I am happy with it.
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That looks like a nice rig and a great way to keep the hard top from getting damaged while it's off your Jeep.

Question: I'm close to getting a 2012 Rubi and would like to know the approximate weight of the hard top. Not sure there is a difference, but I will get the painted top and fenders.

Thank you for any help!
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I saw on another post about the straps (4 pk from Lowes/Home Depot... $15) going from front to back under the top, but my top kept wanting to tilt back since it's a lot heavier than the front.

This is what I ended up doing:

I bought a 10' pc of uni-strut and cut it in half, so that they would overhang to keep the straps from rubbing against the top.
I decided to go ahead and mount the shelf and only used 3 of the "j"hooks on each side.



Now I can store my farm jack and 2 front panels of the hard top on the shelf on top of an old moving blanket.



Using the ratchet straps to hold the top and a bungee cord to keep the window closed. (if open, it was in the way of cranking the hoist)



Note the CJ7 front grille cover on the wall.
Looks good man. I don't know why I never thought to put the panels on top


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That looks like a nice rig and a great way to keep the hard top from getting damaged while it's off your Jeep.

Question: I'm close to getting a 2012 Rubi and would like to know the approximate weight of the hard top. Not sure there is a difference, but I will get the painted top and fenders.

Thank you for any help!
I'm just going off memory here, but I think the weight of the unlimited hard top is 104 lbs.
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the 2 door top is 95 pounds
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the 2 door top is 95 pounds
If that's the case, then I could probably put the doors on top as well, or would that be pushing it? (lift is rated for 250 lbs)
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Well the front doors are around 60 lbs each, so your looking at around 220 lbs total. I bet the platform could handle the static weight, but you might have a hard time cranking it up.
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Installation was a piece of cake. The most time consuming part was hand ratcheting all the screws into the 2x6's and also the 12, 4" lag screws into the ceiling joists.

My three ceiling joists were 51" apart instead of 48", so I had to use the 2x6's.

I loaded up the platform last night with some cinder blocks to test the weight overnight, and then tonight lifted the top off.

RACOR HD lift on amazon.com for $130
Ratchet straps at home depot for $10
1" pipe insulation at home depot for $1.39 ea

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Thanks man

It's looking better these days since I made this thread. The only thing I regret are the wheels. I figure i'll get another 15k out of my tires and then I can replace them both!
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sweet setups. for what it is worth, you can get the Harken hoist from Amazon for $106 at the moment. Not as beefy a system as these though. I got it installed a couple weeks ago and I am happy with it.
I bought the lift for $50 at a wholesale place, but it was missing one of the support pieces for the basket/shelf.... reason for buying uni-strut.

Uni-strut: $15
Straps: $15
Foam insulation: $1.50

I also have a 10' ceiling in the garage.
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Yea it looks like the hoist is the genius of the system. i am trying my hardest not to redesign the friggin rack. i drilled some more holes and it prevented the translation under load. still doesnt prevent it from revolving but i guess thats not an issue once the cables are in place. I better get the sucker up before mission creap sets in.

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I placed mine under my attic access so i can use it for a elevator.
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I didnt like the way the cables attached to the platform so i re-did them a bit. This allows me to get it as close to the pullys as possible.
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here it is with the freedom panels on the shelf in their bag. with the modifications i can get it to the place where i can walk underneath it without thinking about it. I use a few extra straps and ropes attached to the frame to allow me to sleep at night.
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test load (before my son was sent up)
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I love this. I need to get one for mine. I wonder if I used two if I could also use it to lift the shell off my pickup? That would give 500 pounds of lifting. So one for the jeep two for the ram and three for..... Getting caried away here, sorry.
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Really liking the Racor setups!
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I'm waiting just a bit longer to order my Racor lift and soft-top. My ceiling is 11'-6" so I'll also be using the platform to keep the other tops and stuff. Above my double doors now I have 4 racks (fixed) that have all of our camping, fishing, biking and autocross gear on them. Lot's of great information and set-ups here. Thanks.

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