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Old 01-13-2012, 11:07 PM   #1
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Just installed Philips Xtreme 80+ Bulbs

After reading all the threads on the crappy stock headlights, I decided to go with the Philips Xtreme 80+ and give it a shot on my '11 JK (for under $27 from Amazon, I figure why not since that seemed to be the least expensive improvement).

The stock lights just plain SUCK!!!! I have flashlights that are many times brighter (In fact, I have a small LED flashlight that uses a 3.7 volt lithium rechargeable battery that puts out 900 lumens).

In any case, I replaced the bulbs today and took the jeep out when dark. Definitely an improvement over the stock bulbs. I can actually see areas I couldn't see before. Not a super improvement, but definitely one you can obviously tell. A friend even told me he could tell the difference (in fact, he's ordering himself a set for his '11 JK too). The best thing is, it wasn't expensive. For $27, it was well worth it, especially if you don't want to spend a lot of money or replace the whole headlight assembly.

Just my 2 cents.

Now, it's Miller Time !!!!

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Nice. i have been wallowing on this and you gave me impetus.
Happy night driving.

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After reading all the threads on the crappy stock headlights, I decided to go with the Philips Xtreme 80+ and give it a shot on my '11 JK (for under $27 from Amazon, I figure why not since that seemed to be the least expensive improvement).

The stock lights just plain SUCK!!!! I have flashlights that are many times brighter (In fact, I have a small LED flashlight that uses a 3.7 volt lithium rechargeable battery that puts out 900 lumens).

In any case, I replaced the bulbs today and took the jeep out when dark. Definitely an improvement over the stock bulbs. I can actually see areas I couldn't see before. Not a super improvement, but definitely one you can obviously tell. A friend even told me he could tell the difference (in fact, he's ordering himself a set for his '11 JK too). The best thing is, it wasn't expensive. For $27, it was well worth it, especially if you don't want to spend a lot of money or replace the whole headlight assembly.

Just my 2 cents.

Now, it's Miller Time !!!!
This is just a bulb swap? Done without removing the light assembly? Interested.... And would you know if the Philips H7 ($56 from Amazon) are any better / materially different?
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Nice. i have been wallowing on this and you gave me impetus.
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This is just a bulb swap? Done without removing the light assembly? Interested.... And would you know if the Philips H7 ($56 from Amazon) are any better / materially different? __________________
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To be safe, are the H7's for another car? I've only seen H13's discussed for JKU's and H4's IF you're buying a retro KIT.

I use H7's in my Sonata and think they are a Very Good improvement; I plan to order H13's for my wife's Sahara Unlim.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/aft...ew-123107.html
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This is just a bulb swap? Done without removing the light assembly? Interested.... And would you know if the Philips H7 ($56 from Amazon) are any better / materially different? __________________
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To be safe, are the H7's for another car? I've only seen H13's discussed for JKU's and H4's IF you're buying a retro KIT.

I use H7's in my Sonata and think they are a Very Good improvement; I plan to order H13's for my wife's Sahara Unlim.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/aft...ew-123107.html
Great info thanks man
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Replaced stockers with Philips +80s about a month ago after reading all of Hilldweller's and other's opinions. A definite, noticeable improvement. And easy as pie to install....

Unless you are going to go all the way with a complete H4 upgrade, just do it!

Make sure you get 9008 H13s!

Amazon.com: Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulb, Pack of 2: Automotive
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:32 PM   #8
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Yep.

Just a bulb swap. H13/9008. Cheap and a huge improvement over stock (especially if you want to keep the headlight assembly stock, minus the bulbs).

After reading all of Hilldwellers threads, I decided to just go with the bulb swap rather than the H4 upgrade. Thanks Hilldweller for all the research! Amazon seemed to have the best price with free shipping (only took about 3 days to receive them).

- Remove the front grill.
- Remove the 4 black screws holding the silver frame/light bracket (be careful not to turn the headlight aiming screws (they are the white torx screws, 2 on each headlight).
- Remove the headlight assembly partially and pull out the plug (push back the red tad on the plug to unlock it before you pull the plug out).
- Remove the headlight assembly and remove the stock bulb.
- Put in the new bulb (I cleaned it with alcohol and a clean cloth to make sure there were no residues left on the bulb...DO NOT TOUCH the bulb with bare hands....the oil residues from your hands will blow the bulbs when you turn them on...a friend did that once not knowing and as soon as he turned on the headlights...within 4 seconds...POP (blew the bulbs).
- Repeat for other side and reverse the order to reinstall.

I think you can also replace the bulbs without removing the grill. Looks like you might have to remove the power steering resevoir (just a bolt holding it on the passenger side) and the horn on the driver's side and you should be able to just reach in and twist out the bulbs.

Simple. Should take less than 1/2 hour for most even if you take your time. I think the owners manual has instructions on how to change the headlight bulbs. Here is the site for the owner's manual download:

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Just ordered a set, thanks for the information! Stock high beams are the worst!
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While every aspect of the headlights seem to be improved with the Philips +80s, the most dramatic change for me was in the way they improve peripheral lighting, especially to the near right side of the road, you know - from where the critters jump in front of you! BIG improvement!
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Old 01-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #11
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I installed them and ran with 'em for about 6 months. They are worth it and an easy install as noted above.

Eventually I decided I wanted better, due to the nature of my rural location and geezer eye issues.

In 'replacing the bulb' the hardest thing for me was to make sure I didn't touch the new glass.

If you can access the rear of the stock reflector unit, you can replace the bulb without removing from the grill. IIRC, the passenger side was easier to do than the other side.

For those with the older 42W fogs, I'd also encourage you to use HDs advise and change to the yellow bulb, as it gives another level of depth perception in heavy fog the white units don't do as well IMHO.
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Yep.

Just a bulb swap. H13/9008. Cheap and a huge improvement over stock (especially if you want to keep the headlight assembly stock, minus the bulbs).

After reading all of Hilldwellers threads, I decided to just go with the bulb swap rather than the H4 upgrade. Thanks Hilldweller for all the research! Amazon seemed to have the best price with free shipping (only took about 3 days to receive them).

- Remove the front grill.
- Remove the 4 black screws holding the silver frame/light bracket (be careful not to turn the headlight aiming screws (they are the white torx screws, 2 on each headlight).
- Remove the headlight assembly partially and pull out the plug (push back the red tad on the plug to unlock it before you pull the plug out).
- Remove the headlight assembly and remove the stock bulb.
- Put in the new bulb (I cleaned it with alcohol and a clean cloth to make sure there were no residues left on the bulb...DO NOT TOUCH the bulb with bare hands....the oil residues from your hands will blow the bulbs when you turn them on...a friend did that once not knowing and as soon as he turned on the headlights...within 4 seconds...POP (blew the bulbs).
- Repeat for other side and reverse the order to reinstall.

I think you can also replace the bulbs without removing the grill. Looks like you might have to remove the power steering resevoir (just a bolt holding it on the passenger side) and the horn on the driver's side and you should be able to just reach in and twist out the bulbs.

Simple. Should take less than 1/2 hour for most even if you take your time. I think the owners manual has instructions on how to change the headlight bulbs. Here is the site for the owner's manual download:

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Now "Let There Be Light!"
Thanks you Taegee2, great info. Mine should be here on Tues via Amazon Prime
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:05 PM   #13
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Good Suggestions.

What bulb is suggested for the fogs?
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Replaced stockers with Philips +80s about a month ago after reading all of Hilldweller's and other's opinions. A definite, noticeable improvement. And easy as pie to install....

Unless you are going to go all the way with a complete H4 upgrade, just do it!

Make sure you get 9008 H13s!

Amazon.com: Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulb, Pack of 2: Automotive
I tried to order these, but they say that it wont fit a '12. is there a different model for a '12 rubi? or should I just ignore them?
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I tried to order these, but they say that it wont fit a '12. is there a different model for a '12 rubi? or should I just ignore them?
Ignore the message.

I have a 12 and ordered from that same link. Amazon reminded me I bought them on November 20, 2011.

Big improvement.
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I like my Extreme 80's too. Easy to do, and makes a difference.
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Replaced stockers with Philips +80s about a month ago after reading all of Hilldweller's and other's opinions. A definite, noticeable improvement. And easy as pie to install....

Unless you are going to go all the way with a complete H4 upgrade, just do it!

Make sure you get 9008 H13s!

Amazon.com: Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulb, Pack of 2: Automotive
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Good Suggestions.

What bulb is suggested for the fogs?
I don't think there is a fog ligh fix with just the bulb repacement. The stock fog bulbs are not easy to find either. They are size PSX24W. Only place I could find them was on eBay for about $15 - $17 a piece. Maybe the dealer has them, but I think they are much higher (go figure)...I think someone saw one at a dealer for $35 a piece.

The stock fog lights are crappy too (only 24 watts). They only light a few feet directly in front of you anyway.

I'm just keeping mine stock since the headlights are much better now. I think I will add aux lights later (spring project?).

If you want better fog lights, I think most are replacing the whole fog light assembly which usually have the 55 Watt bulbs (like the Pilot). But I think you have to add a relay since the canbus system limits your power outage to less than 55 Watts (I think ).
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I just may do the rallylight setup in a couple months, if the government decides to bless me with a refund amounting to more than a tank of gas this year.
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If I'm not mistaken this carries the Hilldweller seal of approval as well, and is planned for my next upgrade cycle, which all seems to revolve around the front end in some way.

Good stuff.
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I just installed them in my 2012 JKU. HUGE IMPROVEMENT
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I did them as well and the improvement was well worth the cost. The imporvement in 'side-lighting' is VERY good. I now use my fogs with my headlignts on dark nights and the combination is fine. I have a great respect for all the work Hilldweller did for us on this subject. The low cost improvement is well worth it for ALL JK's and JKU's. Economic and effective. Thanks Hilldweller.
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I have bad night vision as it is. Would love to do this, just no way I'm removing the front grill myself
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I have bad night vision as it is. Would love to do this, just no way I'm removing the front grill myself
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Great thread...I've bookmarked the bulbs on my Amazon account and put them on my 'wish list'. Thanks for all the info!
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.... just no way I'm removing the front grill myself
It's really very easy! Heck, if I can do it, anybody can!





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1. Popped out the 6 plastic fasteners on the top of the grille, and realized that the center fastener did not need to come out all the way from the sleeve. Pulled em out with no issue.

2. To pull the grille off there were 4 clips on the bottom that were easy to disengage. What I had small trouble with was the clip somewhere behind the turn signal area on each side. I gingerly worked loose those clips and the grille came right off.

3. Used a 15T bit to take off the 4 screws for the headlamp ring that retain the lens.

4. Once the lens was out it was easy to turn the bulb releasing it from the lens. Pushed up the red lever on the wiring connection and pulled out the bulb.

5. Replaced the bulb taking care not to touch the new bulbs with my fingers. I only touched the plastic housing.

6. Retraced my steps to put everything back in order.

NOTE: The turn signal housing easily disengages from the grille and lens by turning counterclockwise.
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If you haven't already, it would be a good idea to aim your headlights down a little as well. It is known that a lot of JK's left the factory with the headlights aimed too high.
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I have bad night vision as it is. Would love to do this, just no way I'm removing the front grill myself
I moved the horn and the little canisted out od the way and was able to reach in and do the bulb change........... did not remove the grill....

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