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Old 03-07-2012, 01:08 PM   #1
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Just need guidance

Having owned my jeep now for a few weeks and about 100 miles shy of my first 1000 mile owned Jeep I do believe that I am going to use my taxes (all of it) to get my Jeep looking more presentable.

Being here at Fort Polk, LA all the cool Jeep events normally happen hours away from me and on days that I work so I miss out. However there is a very large training area called JRTC that provides and endless amount of dirt/mud tank trails and firebreaks that can be utilized when there isnt a rotation here.

I am looking at this set-up, keep in mind this is my DD and its only a 2 mile jaunt to work and 2 miles home daily.

Lift: TeraFlex 2.5" Suspension Lift Kit, With 9550 Shocks TF-1251000 Do I need to purchase Blisten shocks?

Wheels: Mickey Thompson Side Biter Gloss Black, 17x9", 5x5 Bolt Pattern MTW-179431 Really questioning the 17x9's vs the 16x8's?

Tires: Dick Cepek Mud Country Radial Tire DC-23274 I see a lot of posts about Duratracs but I have no idea who makes them?

Fender Flares: Bushwacker Flat Style Fender Flares BSW-10918-07 Not sure I will actually need these with the lift itself other than a decent appearance. I heard with wheels and tires being 33x12.5R17's i could use without a lift if I have the FF?

I have read almost every post on lift and wheel/tire combos and I believe this will fit without any other mods needed. Again DD and limited off road situations. Any opinions on this set-up? I do own a 2012 JKU Sport with 3.21 gears....

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Good choice in lift, though I would skip the TF shocks and go straight for the Bilsteins. Call David at Northridge 4x4 and he will hook you up with the TF 2.5 coil kit with Bilsteins 5100s for $750 shipped. The 2.5" lift will clear 35s.

I would opt for 15" or 16" wheels personally. Cheaper wheels and tires in those sizes. And more sidewall for airing down. Not a huge fan of the Sidebiters, but wheel preference in personal, so if you like 'em, get 'em. Just make sure you stick with a wheel with around 4.5" of backspacing or less.

Don't know a whole lot about the DC tires, but many people love them. The Duratracs are made by Goodyear and are consider one of the best AT tires out there.

If you are only planning on 33" tires, the flat fenders will not be needed with the lift. Actually, you can run 33" tires on correctly backspaced wheels on stock suspension. You will get some rubbing when flexing offroad though.

If you decide to go with a larger tire than the 33", you are probably going to want to regear with those 3.21s.

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4fit nailed it. The Cepek tires are decent after all they are a Mickey Thompson company. I think the Duratrac would be better though. Also look at the Kelly Safari TSR and Fierce Attitude. These are nearly identical to the Duratrac and are made by Goodyear also. I would skip the Bushwacker fenders. I don’t like spending over $500 for another set of plastic fenders. I would save for steel or aluminum tube fenders or chop the stock ones. Or forgo the fenders and re-gear.

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Old 03-07-2012, 02:06 PM   #4
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Thanks I appreciate your input and it will be used in my final determination on what to purchase.

I know that until I pay off my jeep I wont be running 35's but the lift will be there if i ever change my mind. And of course the regearing.

I will look up the Goodyears... Plus I will call that guy for that kit. Is the installation doable with a few friends and some beer or is it really complicated that I would need professional guidance. I am aware that I need the exhaust extenders and I believe some extender for my spare...?
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Thanks I appreciate your input and it will be used in my final determination on what to purchase.

I know that until I pay off my jeep I wont be running 35's but the lift will be there if i ever change my mind. And of course the regearing.

I will look up the Goodyears... Plus I will call that guy for that kit. Is the installation doable with a few friends and some beer or is it really complicated that I would need professional guidance. I am aware that I need the exhaust extenders and I believe some extender for my spare...?
To bad those sidebiters did not come in a 15". Would be all overem
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Lifting a Jeep is easy, depending on your abilities. It is much easier than lifting an IFS vehicle in my opinion.

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Thanks I appreciate your input and it will be used in my final determination on what to purchase.

I know that until I pay off my jeep I wont be running 35's but the lift will be there if i ever change my mind. And of course the regearing.

I will look up the Goodyears... Plus I will call that guy for that kit. Is the installation doable with a few friends and some beer or is it really complicated that I would need professional guidance. I am aware that I need the exhaust extenders and I believe some extender for my spare...?
Install wouldn't be too bad for you and a couple buddies. You would need the exhaust extender for the 2012. As for the spare, if you are going with 33s, you would just need to pick up some Daystar extended bumpstops.
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I would also bypass the Teraflex shocks and get the Bilsteins. As far as tires/wheels the 15" or 16" will definately be easier on the pocketbook at original purchase and down the road when the first set wears out, however, I personally like the look of the 17" wheels better. Just personal preference.

I believe you will be ok with the 3.21 gears but you will loose a little responsiveness, but with a few more ponies in the 3.6 you may not really notice. I probably wouldn't re-gear unless you do go to a 35" tire down the road.

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I am getting new wheels and tires in the next week and I too have the 3.21 gears. I was told by many different people that I would be okay with them up to 33 inch tires and beyond that I would probably want to change to 3.71. Will be anxious to see pics of all your new mods. good luck, have fun, and welcome to wf
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Absolutely, pictures will follow and total cost of course... Wont be purchasing anything until March 25th so I will post as everything is on.... will look into the 15/16's i would rather save some $$ here and there for other mods like bumbers and winches...

Thanks for all the great advice I had figured I would just be flamed for not reading the 1000 of posts which I already have almost lol
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I am getting new wheels and tires in the next week and I too have the 3.21 gears. I was told by many different people that I would be okay with them up to 33 inch tires and beyond that I would probably want to change to 3.71. Will be anxious to see pics of all your new mods. good luck, have fun, and welcome to wf
Like I mentioned earlier, 33s should be fine on 3.21s. Even more so if you have a '12. But anything over that, regearing becomes much more likely.

However, there is no 3.71 gear. And, if you are going to bother regearing at all, I definitely would go lower than 3.73. Maybe 4.88 for a manual 07-11 and 5.13 for an auto. For the '12, possibly 4.56 for the manual and 4.88 for the auto.
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Thanks I appreciate your input and it will be used in my final determination on what to purchase.

I know that until I pay off my jeep I wont be running 35's but the lift will be there if i ever change my mind. And of course the regearing.

I will look up the Goodyears... Plus I will call that guy for that kit. Is the installation doable with a few friends and some beer or is it really complicated that I would need professional guidance. I am aware that I need the exhaust extenders and I believe some extender for my spare...?
Link to Northridge 4x4 (you'll have to call Dave to get the TF 2.5" w/Bilstein 5100's):

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts Online Store

You can also get the TF exhaust spacer kit through him. Link to that page:

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Exhaust

As well as the Daystar bump stops. Link:

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: JK Accessories

And a link the DTD (forum vendor) website for the Goodyear DuraTracs. You can get $50 off for being a WF member, and another $100 of with a mail-in rebate for being a member of Tread Lightly (costs $25...see vendor section @ top left of page):

Discount Tire, Custom Wheels, Truck & Car Rims | Discount Tire

Installing the lift's not difficult. Beer and some pizza for some help is SOP. Just make sure you leave all your control arms (4 upper, 4 lower) and both trackbars (front, rear) loose until your tires are on and your Jeep is resting on its own weight on the ground. Then shake your Jeep around to make sure there's no binding in the bushings, and tighten everything to 125 ft-lbs, except the FRONT UPPER control arms, which should be 75 ft-lbs.

You also might wanna look through this thread, and order a set of the Poly Performance bolts for your lower control arms and trackbars, since the ones that come with the Jeep are too small, and can lead to Death Wobble if not replaced. Might as well change em out at the same time you do the lift.

The Importance of changing out stock bolts!!

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Link to Northridge 4x4 (you'll have to call Dave to get the TF 2.5" w/Bilstein 5100's):

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts Online Store

You can also get the TF exhaust spacer kit through him. Link to that page:

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Exhaust

As well as the Daystar bump stops. Link:

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: JK Accessories

And a link the DTD (forum vendor) website for the Goodyear DuraTracs. You can get $50 off for being a WF member, and another $100 of with a mail-in rebate for being a member of Tread Lightly (costs $25...see vendor section @ top left of page):

Discount Tire, Custom Wheels, Truck & Car Rims | Discount Tire

Installing the lift's not difficult. Beer and some pizza for some help is SOP. Just make sure you leave all your control arms (4 upper, 4 lower) and both trackbars (front, rear) loose until your tires are on and your Jeep is resting on its own weight on the ground. Then shake your Jeep around to make sure there's no binding in the bushings, and tighten everything to 125 ft-lbs, except the FRONT UPPER control arms, which should be 75 ft-lbs.

You also might wanna look through this thread, and order a set of the Poly Performance bolts for your lower control arms and trackbars, since the ones that come with the Jeep are too small, and can lead to Death Wobble if not replaced. Might as well change em out at the same time you do the lift.

The Importance of changing out stock bolts!!

Good luck!
GY now had a $60-$80 rebate depending on tire
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GY now had a $60-$80 rebate depending on tire
Sweet. The more the merrier, especially since they're often on backorder. They gotta be making a pile off those bad boys.
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For the last three hours I have been searching for a decent looking wheel that is black in a 15/16 size and it appears my options are very limited. I have noticed that with 15's they are usually 15x8's and/or 16x8's. I thought I read before that for a 12.5 tire you want to stay around the 8-10" wheel width so I figured 17x9's were perfect. However a lot of tires that fit on 16's arent 12.5 but more like 12 and/or 11's. I did notice three types of tires that were 33x12.5x15 and they were the Duratrecs and Dick Cepek, DC were about $50 more per tire. But I havent seen many 15's that were all that exciting but then again I cant access many sites being that I am on a government computer.

I noticed in a post above mine because I havent figured out how to highlight and copy and paste but the daystar bump stops? Are those a needed item based off the package post from eariler?
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For the last three hours I have been searching for a decent looking wheel that is black in a 15/16 size and it appears my options are very limited. I have noticed that with 15's they are usually 15x8's and/or 16x8's. I thought I read before that for a 12.5 tire you want to stay around the 8-10" wheel width so I figured 17x9's were perfect. However a lot of tires that fit on 16's arent 12.5 but more like 12 and/or 11's. I did notice three types of tires that were 33x12.5x15 and they were the Duratrecs and Dick Cepek, DC were about $50 more per tire. But I havent seen many 15's that were all that exciting but then again I cant access many sites being that I am on a government computer.

I noticed in a post above mine because I havent figured out how to highlight and copy and paste but the daystar bump stops? Are those a needed item based off the package post from eariler?
The x8 rims will work fine with a 12.5" tire. I'm running 12.5" DuraTracs on 16x8 alloy rims.

You'll want the Daystar bump stops to replace the stock ones on your tailgate, since the backspacing on your aftermarket wheels will make your spare stick out farther than the stock spare.
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Holy Batman..........

Searching for 15" Wheels with a 5x5 Bolt Pattern and 4.5 BS is vertually impossible.... All least finding an all black wheel is....

Duratrecs look nice and apparently loads of people use them anyone have any positive/negative feedback on Toyo Open Country MT's......

Had those on my F-150 and they were great, not sure about on a jeep.

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