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Old 02-13-2011, 05:28 PM   #1
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Just ordered Teraflex leveling kit... 33s?

I just ordered the teraflex leveling kit 2 inch front 1 inch rear, is it worth spending the money to go from my 32s (255 75 17) to 285 70 17 ? or will the difference not be noticable ? Can anyone that took the step give me your input ?

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Curious too....

I just installed the TeraFlex kit last week. Looks great. Drives just a little bit different. I'm thinking it's time to also do wheels and tires. Gotta get a little wider stance than stock. Any ideas what sizes are best to go with??

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Good question. I have no lift but debated 265 v 285 for several days. In the end I went with the 265. The 33's were about $200 more for the set and I read some threads on here and other forums where people complained of more sluggish driving on the road.

I am interested to hear what others say...

I went with the Duratracs 265/75/16 (really 31.5, but wider than stock) and they will arrive in a couple of days.
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Good question. I have no lift but debated 265 v 285 for several days. In the end I went with the 265. The 33's were about $200 more for the set and I read some threads on here and other forums where people complained of more sluggish driving on the road.

I am interested to hear what others say...

I went with the Duratracs 265/75/16 (really 31.5, but wider than stock) and they will arrive in a couple of days.
I have a set of 265 70 17 and the stock 255 75 17 but which is fine without a lift.

But with a slight lift like the kit I ordered I think it would be better with 285 70 17 but its alot of money for the slight height i wanted input as i have seen many pics but pics are pics its hard to tell from reality

Theres also the 285 75 toyo in which I am
Interested but I think its too heavy/big for the stock carrier
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I have a 2 1/2 front and 1 1/2 rear lift(1 1/2" from stiffer stock coils and 1" Teraflex leveling spacer in front) with the 285/70/17.

Is it worth it? That is still up in the air. Look wise it is well worth it. It is amazing what 1.2" in width and .6" height makes.

Don't need the lift though to get these tires but after a month on them I do find it is going to be better with better backspacing. Getting a small rub on braking and full turn on the back side wall of the tire. No wheres close to hitting the top of the fender. Not that it is bad but is now starting to show on the tires and not wanting to ruin $1100 set of tires I find that I am getting wheel adapters this week so the rubbing won't wear a hole before the life of the tire is gone. Wish 275/70/17 were more popular. Would have made a happy medium.

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I have a 2 1/2 front and 1 1/2 rear lift(1 1/2" from stiffer stock coils and 1" Teraflex leveling spacer in front) with the 285/70/17.

Is it worth it? That is still up in the air. Look wise it is well worth it. It is amazing what 1.2" in width and .6" height makes.

Don't need the lift though to get these tires but after a month on them I do find it is going to be better with better backspacing. Getting a small rub on braking and full turn on the back side wall of the tire. No wheres close to hitting the top of the fender. Not that it is bad but is now starting to show on the tires and not wanting to ruin $1100 set of tires I find that I am getting wheel adapters this week so the rubbing won't wear a hole before the life of the tire is gone. Wish 275/70/17 were more popular. Would have made a happy medium.

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Thanks for the info!

Have you considered the steering stop washer trick ?
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I was debating the exact same thing as to getting a set of 285/70/17s. I knew if I got them then I would have to have a leveling kit to get the right amount of room to compliment the look and most importantly...make them functional. Adding that onto a $1200 tire purchase was getting to much more for me and I had to ask myself would a 33" tire, leveling kit ($400 installed), spacers ($250 installed), poor MPG and downgraded performance for all of my road driving really be worth it? I have wheeled with 255/75/17 stock tires for a while now and other than the poor traction which is soon to be completely fixed by my new MTs, they worked perfectly fine for everything I love doing. I had no issues with height or clearance on my stock JK.

I decided I would rather keep my MPG as close to stock as possible while spending the hundreds of dollars on the kit and spacers for many other fun things on my Jeep. I just ordered a set of Nitto Trail Grapplers in the stock size. They are wider and slightly bigger (marginally) than the SR-As I have on now but they will no doubt be an incredible tire off road and will give my Jeep the beloved appearance we all like. I went with them too because they retain the "C" load range and all of the 33" tires were a minimum of a "D" or "E" load range. This gave them a lot of weight that my stock 3.21 gears would have to deal with while doing everyday driving and trailing. Some say this is not that big of an issue but it is still an issue none the less. Here is a pick of the Nittos. I'll put up pics soon when I get mine installed this week.
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Thanks for the info!

Have you considered the steering stop washer trick ?
If it was only the tight turns then wheel stops would be fine but where it rubs on tight turn is smooth edge of sway bar. Thats not a big deal even to let it rub. The issue I am having is the rubbing on hard brakes. Can't see how it is doing it but it is. The passenger side front on hard brakes rubs the edge of the coil spring retainer and that is a sharper edge. Guess I could grind down the edge a little and round it off but wheel adapters will make the jeep look better anyways
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If it was only the tight turns then wheel stops would be fine but where it rubs on tight turn is smooth edge of sway bar. Thats not a big deal even to let it rub. The issue I am having is the rubbing on hard brakes. Can't see how it is doing it but it is. The passenger side front on hard brakes rubs the edge of the coil spring retainer and that is a sharper edge. Guess I could grind down the edge a little and round it off but wheel adapters will make the jeep look better anyways
Your rubbing on hard brakes is a first from what I have read ... Considering the fact that you have a lift installed (which one?) may have components that stick out and causes the rub ? Some jeepers have your tire size on stock everything and they claim no rub...
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It has me stumped. And it may only ever happen to me. I have had these tires over a month now and it just started 4 days ago. But I took in to my off road shop I use and let them test drive it to find the problem and they put it on the lift and found were it is rubbing. Other people have said they have had rubbing issues with the 285 in flex but on the inner fender well but I can see the mark on mine on the upper coil retainer.

I did notice that It seems it is pulling down further on hard brake towards the passenger side. That is the cause but why it is doing it seems to be a mystery because the brakes all look fine. They checked everything out and can't find anything other then to say get some spacers. They said I could get by with just a thin 1/4" back wheel spacer but I decided on the Adapters because I got a real good deal on them for $50 for all 4, a guy at the shop bought then then decided to get new wheels instead.

As far as lift it is a simple coil lift no other parts were added other then the 1" teraflex spacer.
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It has me stumped. And it may only ever happen to me. I have had these tires over a month now and it just started 4 days ago. But I took in to my off road shop I use and let them test drive it to find the problem and they put it on the lift and found were it is rubbing. Other people have said they have had rubbing issues with the 285 in flex but on the inner fender well but I can see the mark on mine on the upper coil retainer.

I did notice that It seems to be braking harder on the passenger side and it is pulling down further on hard brake on the passenger side. That is the cause but why it is doing it seems to be a mystery because the brakes all look fine. They checked everything out and can't find anything other then to say get some spacers. They said I could get by with just a thin 1/4" back wheel spacer but I decided on the Adapters because I got a real good deal on them for $50 for all 4, a guy at the shop bought then then decided to get new wheels instead.

As far as lift it is a simple coil lift no other parts were added other then the 1" teraflex spacer.
Mystery it is. The off road shop IMO will guide you to purchase those wheel spacers in their profitable advantage... I have learned that spacers cause a tremendous amount of stress on the driveshaft but I also read that the new technology have improved their purpose...

Please let us know when you install the spacers(spidertrax?) and how efficient it comes up to be
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tires size.....

Thanks for all the info!! I have the TeraFlex coil leveling kit (2in fron 1in rear) and it looks great....I just can't decide which tire size to go with....it seems 33's is the ticket (a little bigger than stock but NOT 35's).

Ironically, as i was walking back to my place in Telluride last nite there was a White Rubicon parked outside with some black 17in wheels with a great tire. It looked exactly like i was looking for...Nitto Trail Grappler M/T 295-70-17.......would this be good tire for the size I'm looking for?? Not positive how this converts to size?? (i knew you guys would know!!!)

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Thanks for all the info!! I have the TeraFlex coil leveling kit (2in fron 1in rear) and it looks great....I just can't decide which tire size to go with....it seems 33's is the ticket (a little bigger than stock but NOT 35's).

Ironically, as i was walking back to my place in Telluride last nite there was a White Rubicon parked outside with some black 17in wheels with a great tire. It looked exactly like i was looking for...Nitto Trail Grappler M/T 295-70-17.......would this be good tire for the size I'm looking for?? Not positive how this converts to size?? (i knew you guys would know!!!)

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You would have to have new wheels or wheel adapters to run that tire. It is actually a little taller then a 33 but it is a little more narrow. A 33 is 33 X 12.5" while the 295/70/17 is 33.26 X 11.61"
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Tire sizes can make you nuts after a while.
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Thanks for all the info!! I have the TeraFlex coil leveling kit (2in fron 1in rear) and it looks great....I just can't decide which tire size to go with....it seems 33's is the ticket (a little bigger than stock but NOT 35's).

Ironically, as i was walking back to my place in Telluride last nite there was a White Rubicon parked outside with some black 17in wheels with a great tire. It looked exactly like i was looking for...Nitto Trail Grappler M/T 295-70-17.......would this be good tire for the size I'm looking for?? Not positive how this converts to size?? (i knew you guys would know!!!)

Thanks!!
They're advertised as 33.6" diameter, but installed they're 33.2" and 11.5" wide-every tire/wheel/air pressure you use will change the LISTED size-



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Tire sizes can make you nuts after a while.
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I love my Wrangler Duratrac 285/70/17's. I won't go back to the stock 17 size. I have two inch spacers in the front. 1 in spacer in the rear. I noticed a slight change in the drive, but not enough to offset the new look. The Jeep drive was sluggish factory!! Lost 2 mpg. Dropped from 18 to 16 city. I can still pull a 6x10 utility trailer loaded, and maintain interstate speeds with no prob.
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I have a 2 1/2 front and 1 1/2 rear lift(1 1/2" from stiffer stock coils and 1" Teraflex leveling spacer in front) with the 285/70/17.

Is it worth it? That is still up in the air. Look wise it is well worth it. It is amazing what 1.2" in width and .6" height makes.

Don't need the lift though to get these tires but after a month on them I do find it is going to be better with better backspacing. Getting a small rub on braking and full turn on the back side wall of the tire. No wheres close to hitting the top of the fender. Not that it is bad but is now starting to show on the tires and not wanting to ruin $1100 set of tires I find that I am getting wheel adapters this week so the rubbing won't wear a hole before the life of the tire is gone. Wish 275/70/17 were more popular. Would have made a happy medium.

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Take a look and make sure that you installed the stabilizer bar link bolts in the proper direction. If you put them in backwards, they will rub and potentially puncture your tire.

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