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Old 01-29-2013, 02:47 PM   #1
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JW Speaker 8700 Evolution...?

As we all know, the stock headlights on the Wrangler are horrible. So after looking at countless aftermarket headlight upgrades, I think that the JW Speaker 8700 evolution is probably my top pick. Many people say that they are awesome headlights, and they look waaaay cooler than anything else on the market. However before I spend that much $ on some lights, I want to be absolutely positive that they are the right choice.

First off I read somewhere that since they are LED's that the headlights themselves don't heat up much. So I'm worried that because I live in Ohio in the winter too much snow/ice will build up on them, rendering them pretty much useless. Anyone have any experiences with them in the winter?

The second issue is flickering. After some research I learned that a new wiring harness will solve that problem. But my question is will any harness work? J.W. Speaker LED 8700 Evolution Headlight Conversion for 2007-13 Jeep Wrangler JK (pair) comes with a wiring harness, but I'm not 100% sure if that is all I need to eliminate the flickering problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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The harness you're seeing is just the H13 to H4 harness (or vice versa). It's to make the lights plug and play, not to get rid of the flicker.

Also, you can get them cheaper at DiscountFleetSupply.com - $714 for a set, and talk to their reps for a Jeep forum 5% discount. (Making the lights just under $700.)

I can't speak for the cold, but the flicker is definitely still there. I think we're getting close to a solution, but after having them for 3 weeks, it's not bothering me as much as the first day.

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Old 01-29-2013, 03:53 PM   #3
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As we all know, the stock headlights on the Wrangler are horrible. So after looking at countless aftermarket headlight upgrades, I think that the JW Speaker 8700 evolution is probably my top pick. Many people say that they are awesome headlights, and they look waaaay cooler than anything else on the market. However before I spend that much $ on some lights, I want to be absolutely positive that they are the right choice.

First off I read somewhere that since they are LED's that the headlights themselves don't heat up much. So I'm worried that because I live in Ohio in the winter too much snow/ice will build up on them, rendering them pretty much useless. Anyone have any experiences with them in the winter?

The second issue is flickering. After some research I learned that a new wiring harness will solve that problem. But my question is will any harness work? J.W. Speaker LED 8700 Evolution Headlight Conversion for 2007-13 Jeep Wrangler JK (pair) comes with a wiring harness, but I'm not 100% sure if that is all I need to eliminate the flickering problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I have them and can't speak to the cold issue either. As to flicker, I haven't noticed it. Lights look great and are a definite improvement over stock.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:49 PM   #4
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I've had mine in for about a week....the only time I notice any flicker is if I'm stopped behind another vehicle, and even then its not a big deal to me. They are a huge improvement over stock, and they look great.
We had a bout of snow last night and driving through it on the way home, I didn't have any build up on the headlights when I got home....it was about a 30 minute drive. It wasn't a real heavy storm, but we got a few inches of snow.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:45 PM   #5
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I've got em & love them they are unreal but do flicker so do what Kappaknight said buy with out that harness then buy the SMS anti-flicker harness for $80 dollars shipped & no more flicker .
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:47 PM   #6
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:54 PM   #7
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Well I went to SMS and I'm kinda confused about which harness I need to get. I would assume I need the HL28130J - From H13 to H4 2007> Jeep Wrangler (NOT for DRL), but that's $162, not $80! Is that the wrong one, or am I missing something...?
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Well I went to SMS and I'm kinda confused about which harness I need to get. I would assume I need the HL28130J - From H13 to H4 2007> Jeep Wrangler (NOT for DRL), but that's $162, not $80! Is that the wrong one, or am I missing something...?
Sounds right to me. I remember a j being in the code. But I thought it was 120
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call the guys at SMS… they are awesome to work with and will know exactly what you need. They do custom work and everything for harnesses for people that done feel like tackling it themselves…me…
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I'm sorry TLG top line automotive group that's where I got the harness from

Grand Total
JEEP001 Jeep JK Wrangler LED Headlight Harness
1 $69.00 $69.00

Subtotal: $69.00
Tax: $0.00
Shipping Cost: $12.76
Grand Total: $81.76
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Have you looked a this thread
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/the...tc-166997.html

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Eventually gonna get a set of these. Understand that routing power through an sPod will eliminate the flicker also?
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:48 PM   #13
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I've been trying to get some answers as well, if someone could verify the best harness that provides no flicker that would be much appreciated. The issue with your snow was also a valid point, any second opinions? And lastly, if I get the 8700's I know I am gonna want the matching fogs. Is there a certain harness you need for those? Is one even available yet? And will it fit with the mopar off road bumper with the openings for the stock fogs?
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:53 PM   #14
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And!!! What website has the best offer? The JW Speaker website says they have a lifetime warranty, most other sites offer a 4 yr warranty? Does anyone else see an issue with that?
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I'm sitting on the fence right now too. I want the 8700s but I can't seem to find the best place to purchase. TLG Jeep Wrangler JK Anti-Flicker Warning Canceller Plug and Play Wire Harness Adapters for LED Headlights has a fix for the flicker but their pricing on the 8700 seems high since it doesn't make clear if you're paying $489 each or for a set.
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I can vouch for discountfleetsupply.com. Price was like $679 for the pair. I got my harness from rallylights.com. Works perfectly no flicker.
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I can vouch for discountfleetsupply.com. Price was like $679 for the pair. I got my harness from rallylights.com. Works perfectly no flicker.
Which harness did you buy from rallylights.com?
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what's the difference between these two?

HL28130D - From H13 to H4 with Driving Lamps 2007> Jeep Wrangler (NOT for DRL)
HL28130J - From H13 to H4 2007> Jeep Wrangler (NOT for DRL)
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:05 PM   #19
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Just installed mine this weekend and it was a wet snow tonight here in Ottawa Canada.
Less that a 10 mile drive home and they were covered in snow when I got home.
Even through the snow they were still brighter than stock.
Hope it doesn't become an issue with snow piling up on them.

I'm running the Truck Lite anti flicker harness and it works perfectly.
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Just installed mine this weekend and it was a wet snow tonight here in Ottawa Canada.
Less that a 10 mile drive home and they were covered in snow when I got home.
Even through the snow they were still brighter than stock.
Hope it doesn't become an issue with snow piling up on them.

I'm running the Truck Lite anti flicker harness and it works perfectly.
Greetings fellow Ottawa Jeeper! I got my 8700's last week but am still waiting on the harnesses to come in so I can put em in. I've yet to see another Jeep on the road around here with JW Speakers, and I've been looking a lot lately! I thought I'd be the first haha. I'll be keeping an eye out for yours now
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Greetings fellow Ottawa Jeeper! I got my 8700's last week but am still waiting on the harnesses to come in so I can put em in. I've yet to see another Jeep on the road around here with JW Speakers, and I've been looking a lot lately! I thought I'd be the first haha. I'll be keeping an eye out for yours now

Greetings Look out for the 2013 Billet Silver Unlimited with all LED lighting and blacked out 2013 OEM wheels

They are easy to install but feel free to PM me if you need any info.
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Saw a set of these a couple of days ago in a Peterbilt truck, first time I've seen them in person, during the day they were a very intense light, He was going the other way and didn't have his CB on so I couldn't ask him what they were like at night.
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Are these really worth the extra dough over the truck lites? I'm torn...
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Are these really worth the extra dough over the truck lites? I'm torn...
Not sure but check out this comprehensive review of them and a bunch of lights.

http://www.jkowners.com/tech/lights/
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Greetings Look out for the 2013 Billet Silver Unlimited with all LED lighting and blacked out 2013 OEM wheels

They are easy to install but feel free to PM me if you need any info.
Haha I will be for sure! A bit off topic, but what other led's are you running? I plan to get the JWS fogs pretty soon, but I'm not sure about the signals and markers..

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Are these really worth the extra dough over the truck lites? I'm torn...
I got my TL harnesses and finally got my headlights installed a couple days ago. Man these things are awesome. The amount of light they put out is incredible. I'm sure the Truck lites are sweet too, but for what it's worth, these just look so badass. Way cooler than the Truck lites, IMO. If looks matters to you at all, then it's an easy choice I think. I did buy them used though for the same price a pair of TL's costs new in Canada. It is hard to justify nearly 1000 bucks on headlights..
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I got my TL harnesses and finally got my headlights installed a couple days ago. Man these things are awesome. The amount of light they put out is incredible. I'm sure the Truck lites are sweet too, but for what it's worth, these just look so badass. Way cooler than the Truck lites, IMO. If looks matters to you at all, then it's an easy choice I think. I did buy them used though for the same price a pair of TL's costs new in Canada. It is hard to justify nearly 1000 bucks on headlights..
The only thing making me think I want the JWs is the looks... The truck lite harnesses work for the JWs? If I'm going to install these I'm only doing it once so I might as well do it right and spring for the $60 in harnesses.
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The only thing making me think I want the JWs is the looks... The truck lite harnesses work for the JWs? If I'm going to install these I'm only doing it once so I might as well do it right and spring for the $60 in harnesses.
The Truck Lite harnesses work great with the JW's. When I initially turned on the headlights to make sure they were installed correctly (with just the battery on, engine off) they strobed like a disco dance party. But when the engine is running there is no flicker at all. What surprised me the most is that even in DRL mode (I'm in Canada so have DRL's on high beam at half power) the flicker isn't that bad at all. It's there a bit but I can deal with it. I'll be getting a procal or something to switch DRL's to my fogs once I get the JW fogs.
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Haha I will be for sure! A bit off topic, but what other led's are you running? I plan to get the JWS fogs pretty soon, but I'm not sure about the signals and markers..



I got my TL harnesses and finally got my headlights installed a couple days ago. Man these things are awesome. The amount of light they put out is incredible. I'm sure the Truck lites are sweet too, but for what it's worth, these just look so badass. Way cooler than the Truck lites, IMO. If looks matters to you at all, then it's an easy choice I think. I did buy them used though for the same price a pair of TL's costs new in Canada. It is hard to justify nearly 1000 bucks on headlights..
I'm ordering JW fogs soon. For the rest I'm running these. Don't waste you money on Recon stuff.
It's the exact same as this stuff on Ebay at less than half the price.
All these are made in China then Recon or Anzo bimport them from the same place as the Ebay stuff and brand them. I have friends with Recon and Anzo and we can't tell the difference between theirs and my Ebay stuff.

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2007 14 Jeep Wrangler JK 3rd Third Brake Light 6 LED | eBay

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Tail lights; Same as these but I got mine on Ebay for $190 US
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It is hard to justify nearly 1000 bucks on headlights..
I ordered mine from Rebel Off Road in Cali and shipped them to the border then drove over to pick them up.

They had a deal on a few weeks ago that if you bought a gift certificate they would add 10% to it.

So I bought a gift certificate for $750, ended up with $825 and bought the JWs and anti flickers for $839. So in the end $764 and $40 of gas to the border and back. Plus 13% in tax at the border which I would of had to pay here anyway.
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I'm ordering JW fogs soon. For the rest I'm running these. Don't waste you money on Recon stuff.
It's the exact same as this stuff on Ebay at less than half the price.
All these are made in China then Recon or Anzo bimport them from the same place as the Ebay stuff and brand them. I have friends with Recon and Anzo and we can't tell the difference between theirs and my Ebay stuff.
Cool, thanks. I'm definitely liking the price on those. Doesn't look like they're available smoked though. That's what I'm looking for..

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