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Old 03-21-2011, 02:32 PM   #1
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Kargo Master Congo Cage Rack

I just received my Kargo Master Congo Cage Rack for my 2011 JK sport. I was going to install today, but the 3 inches of snow put the kaboosh to that. Hopefully, the upcoming weekend will be nicer.
If anyone has installed one of these and has any tips, I would appreciate any information/advice you could offer.

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Jk'n (Peter) has this on his jeep. I looked into it and he seems to really like it. You could try sending him a pm

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Bring a friend along! Makes it a lot easier! Might want to wait until it's a bit warmer if using the glue for the joints. The Cage crossbars may start to loosen after some highway riding - might want to use lock tight on the threads or periodically tighten them before a trip. I don't take mine off so that's why I like this rack. I throw tons of firewood and gear in that basket!
Good luck - it'll look badass too.
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Thanks Wolf. Great suggestions that I will use. The only time I see this rack coming off is to remove the Freedom Top. I need to purchase a soft top, but that's another project for later. We need the rack for our kayaks.... THANKS.
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Looking at the clearance around the roof, I thought you could get that off without removing the rack?

Can you remove cabin without taking the rack off Wolf?
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Yes Doc the front two panels of the freedom top can be removed with no problem. My profile pic has the two panels off. It's nice when the sun is right overhead, it blocks a bit of the sun much like a pergola, yet you get the breeze. I believe there are three sizes of cages, I got the large one for longer trips and an eezi-awning in the near future. If you like to take off the back often I would recommend a rack like JIMBOX. I just liked this bc it didn't touch the top. You have to get used to a little more noise and obviously the extra weight factor.
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Wolf thanks for info, just a question how much do they cost and is it possible to get courier delivery what's the weight if you know.

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@ DOC, I ordered my rack from Quadratec.com simply because I've never had a problem with them and I live in Pennsylvania where they have a warehouse within driving distance. They were also a little less in price. They do ship internationally, so Australia shouldn't be a problem.(international order ph# is 610-701-3336). Check other sites such as 4WD.com to look at other racks/deals, etc. to make sure this is the rack for you (also for shipping prices). I also looked at Gobi (1st choice but too much $$$ at the time), Garvin, MBRP, Olympic and Warrior.
For the KargoMaster, start with the Congo Cage, then choose a size (50",60" or 74") Bushman Rack and don't forget the mounting brackets for the basket. Ask the rep exactly what you need for the configuration you choose since your shipping distance is far. Best to get it right the first time!
Cost varies for size of vehicle (2/4dr) as well as safari basket size. I think I paid around $900 US for everything with the largest basket.(plus ship & tax).
Mounting accessories run $50-100. (shovel/axe, lighting, spare tire, etc.)

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Old 04-02-2011, 11:01 AM   #9
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I had the garvin expedition rack on my last tj and am looking at the kargo master for my new rubi. can you guys please post some close up pics showing the mount of the rear bars please.

kayak season is here!
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There are some decent pictures on the Quadratec page and the install instructions are there as well.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/kar...ml#post1153580
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yep, I saw those but wanted some real life shots also.
saw the instructions and I understand how the rear of the rack mounts but I wanted to see detailed photos.
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You can check my profile for two pictures I took following the installation: Still have to put the kayak rollers and beds on.
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thanks grzzly!

which kayak saddles are you going with? I used hully rollers and mako saddles on my last rig and they were great.
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Kayak Roller and Saddles

Those are the exact rollers and saddles I have purchased. These will be perfect for our 12.5 ft. kayaks.
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any chance that the back bars will rub on the body, i've been looking for a rack to carry a 17' and 10' kayak and this seems priced rather well.
how is the finish, i believe it's powder coated.
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Super Solid Rack....and Heavy!

I have the congo cage and have been relatively pleased with it. I say relative because I have nothing to compare it to. I have a stock Rubicon Unlimited and I am going to post a picture at this point because a picture is worth a thousand words.

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The picture was taken in the parking lot of the space center in Florida while I was on vacation last summer (from Massachusetts). That rig made it from MA to FL and then to Moosehead Lake in ME over the summer. A 10 foot, two 12 foot, and a 16 foot kayak are pictured. The ride was pretty quiet as I had the hard top on and used the air conditioning pretty much all the way on the trip to Florida. On the trip to ME, I rolled the windows down a lot. I have the Yakima adapter clamps, and bars and use Yakima J bar racks on the two outside yaks and the two inside yaks are leaning on yak stacker and are sitting on two shark pads all Yakima attachments. I like the Yakima bars because they are round and the J racks and shark pads can be tilted in to match the curve of the kayaks.

Regarding the rack, I followed the directions to a T. It makes no squeaking noises but does make wind noise. Any rack will add wind noise to your jeep. You just have to get used to that. The only flaw that I had on the install was that they shipped SAE bolts to attach to the bumper mount spot in the rear and those bolts are metric. I went to The Home Depot, sized the correct bolt and used metric. The SAE supplied would have fit but would have done a nasty on the threads of the permanently affixed anchors on the frame. I put the gas tank bend on the driver's side in turned 180 degrees from what it should have been and found out soon enough that I just turned it to the right direction before the glue seized the connection.

The rack is heavy on the four door and I need to use four people to get it off and on. I found it really difficult getting the top changed out with the rack on so I take the rack off, change tops and put the rack back on. I am unable to open the soft top with the rack on. So my preference is to run it with the rack off while the soft top is on or just run it with the hard top while the rack is on. I haven't had a chance to address this with the company yet as tilting the rack the soft top is suppose to be able to be dropped. Even with the problem corrected, it seems a pain to put the soft top up and down with the rack on. The good news regarding tops is that the freedom top panels on the hard top are operable with the rack in place. No need to tilt it back for that operation.

I used the rack all winter with Yakima ski racks up there for my skis. I can fit about 8 pairs of skis, almost two per passenger. On a long trip to a ski area, this is a very useful thing.

The only place that the rack comes anywhere near the body is at the attachment points. No issues anywhere with rubbing. Overall, I am happy with the rack.
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I have the congo cage and have been relatively pleased with it. I say relative because I have nothing to compare it to. I have a stock Rubicon Unlimited and I am going to post a picture at this point because a picture is worth a thousand words.

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The picture was taken in the parking lot of the space center in Florida while I was on vacation last summer (from Massachusetts). That rig made it from MA to FL and then to Moosehead Lake in ME over the summer. A 10 foot, two 12 foot, and a 16 foot kayak are pictured. The ride was pretty quiet as I had the hard top on and used the air conditioning pretty much all the way on the trip to Florida. On the trip to ME, I rolled the windows down a lot. I have the Yakima adapter clamps, and bars and use Yakima J bar racks on the two outside yaks and the two inside yaks are leaning on yak stacker and are sitting on two shark pads all Yakima attachments. I like the Yakima bars because they are round and the J racks and shark pads can be tilted in to match the curve of the kayaks.

Regarding the rack, I followed the directions to a T. It makes no squeaking noises but does make wind noise. Any rack will add wind noise to your jeep. You just have to get used to that. The only flaw that I had on the install was that they shipped SAE bolts to attach to the bumper mount spot in the rear and those bolts are metric. I went to The Home Depot, sized the correct bolt and used metric. The SAE supplied would have fit but would have done a nasty on the threads of the permanently affixed anchors on the frame. I put the gas tank bend on the driver's side in turned 180 degrees from what it should have been and found out soon enough that I just turned it to the right direction before the glue seized the connection.

The rack is heavy on the four door and I need to use four people to get it off and on. I found it really difficult getting the top changed out with the rack on so I take the rack off, change tops and put the rack back on. I am unable to open the soft top with the rack on. So my preference is to run it with the rack off while the soft top is on or just run it with the hard top while the rack is on. I haven't had a chance to address this with the company yet as tilting the rack the soft top is suppose to be able to be dropped. Even with the problem corrected, it seems a pain to put the soft top up and down with the rack on. The good news regarding tops is that the freedom top panels on the hard top are operable with the rack in place. No need to tilt it back for that operation.

I used the rack all winter with Yakima ski racks up there for my skis. I can fit about 8 pairs of skis, almost two per passenger. On a long trip to a ski area, this is a very useful thing.

The only place that the rack comes anywhere near the body is at the attachment points. No issues anywhere with rubbing. Overall, I am happy with the rack.
That is some decent review you wrote there JK'n. Good stuff! Oh, and that picture looks as if it comes straight out of a brochure...!
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JK'n, thanks for the great write up.
i'm going to order one!

btw how much dose the trailer weigh, and was it easy to pull, what was the optimal speed for good gas mileage (i know it's a jeep)
it's my first jeep and i'll probably asking a lot of questions......some not so technical....
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JK'n, thanks for the great write up.
i'm going to order one!

btw how much dose the trailer weigh, and was it easy to pull, what was the optimal speed for good gas mileage (i know it's a jeep)
it's my first jeep and i'll probably asking a lot of questions......some not so technical....
The trailer is a Haulmark Cub with all the extras 6' X 10'. It has a capacity of 2980 lbs and I think it weighs out at about 1450 empty. On my trip to Florida I was probably in the vicinity of 2200 to 2400 lbs. When I go camping I'm typically 2600 to 2900 lbs. On the Florida return trip I took (I think) 81 to 83, with some pretty good uphill grades. At times I was in 4th gear and slowed to 55 minimum up the steepest grades. Tractor trailer trucks were falling behind me on some of those grades. I kept the speed under 70 at all times as the load can become unstable up near that limit especially with tractor trailer trucks passing (their air stream creates a lot of turbulence). The most hair raising experience was doing about 65 having a tractor trailer pass me on both sides. Not as bad as the scene in Planes Trains and Automobiles where the driver turns into "the devil" as he passes between two tractor trailers traveling in opposite directions scraping on both sides but still raised the hair in my back until I was out of the wind stream of the big guys. That took nerves of iron during those minute time periods compared to the total trip. I would say that the trailer and the jeep have been baptized sufficiently and that I drive carefully any time the trailer is attached. Driving on back roads is a challenge especially when it gets curvy to the point that you really need to keep track of how fast you are going or be thrown to the outside of the turn. There were no close calls during the trips. I don't hesitate to haul right up to the limit of the jeep. That means 2980 in the trailer and up to 500 up top which is the limit of the congo cage.
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Oh ya, I got between 9 and 13 miles per gallon depending on terrain. Flat terrain closer to 13.
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Jk'n, I am with you on the Congo tilt feature. I just installed mine and find it awkward that if I am booting down the highway and would like to drop the soft top, I have to use a wrench and take out both bolts, tilt the cage back, drop the top and put the gage back down, put on both bolts and tighten ...without cage,,approx time 5 min..with cage, approx 20 min. I wonder if there are quick dis-connects for the front to make the job quicker?
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CF2010, is yours a two door or four?
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This is a GREAT DISCUSSION. I am putting on the rollers and saddles this morning. Looking at the rack, I can see that the hard top can be removed without removing the rack. I also have to agree that tipping the rack using the "prop" may not allow room for the soft top to be dropped, and agree it will be a pain to manage, especially in a sudden rain storm. However, I am going to purchase a TREKTOP NX and I believe that won't be an issue to put on/take off.
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I have finally figured out how to post photos. Here are two of my rack installed.

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Man, that is a beautiful thing. Are those Yakima clamps holding the bars to the congo cage? Or ones you got from Kargo Master?
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Don't those bars at the front limit your sight significantly?
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Don't those bars at the front limit your sight significantly?
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The cross bars are Yakima bars from my Kayak dealer. They come with different attachment pieces for different size racks. As far a limiting site, the vertical bars have not an issue. In fact, I hardly notice them when driving. Here are pics with it fully loaded.

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So, Grzzly, the Yakima bars are attached with some sort of Yakima adapter to the Congo Cage? What is the device part number? My bars use the clamps from Kargo Master. They are a little unsightly, yours look pretty good. If you give me the part number, I'd like to research the load capacity. The Kargo Master clamps will support up to the limit of the Yakima bars. They are pretty beefy. The Yakima adapters (if those are Yakima) look nice but not sure about the beefy. I need to know that the load will stay up there....even with 4 kayaks and 70 mph.

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