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Old 04-10-2013, 01:28 PM   #1
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KC lights, your opinion

What do you guys think of the theses KC lights?
I was thinking about using the KC HiLiTES Lights, Long Range Clear Black Kit 130w 6" Round Pair as my window mounted lights and the KC HiLiTES SlimLite, 6" Round Driving Light Kit Black 100w Pair</SPAN> on my front bumper. I am trying to get the most bang for my buck. </SPAN>

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Old 04-10-2013, 01:37 PM   #2
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They are nice and brite!. But you may want to look into getting a dual battery system and larger capacity alternator. 460 watts is really going to stress the charging system.
To be honest, I was about to buy them myself. That is until I saw a better alternative in the Dually D2 Driving lights.
Approx. 26 watts per light and brite enough for me to not care about the difference in lumens between the two.
The Dually D2's are over twice the price. But I don't have to change my electrical system to lessen the load to it.

Omar Brannstrom has some good videos on the light output of the D2's here:http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/win...ts-175775.html

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How much would be the max wattage should you put on a stock Alternator and battery?
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How much would be the max wattage should you put on a stock Alternator and battery?
Here is a link to the light information sticky:Off Road and External Lighting - Jeep Wrangler Forum

There is a forum member by the name of Hilldweller that is VERY knowledgeable on all lighting issues. You may be able to pm him for more information as well.

And I believe the stock alternator is a 160 amp unit.
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I really like my KC's. I got the Apollo because I wanted something more "legal". They aren't DOT approved but they are within the legal limit for wattage so technically they are illegal but its not blatantly illegal to run like the Daylighters that I really wanted.

As far as max wattage, I have 2 55w lights and 2 110w lights that's 330w total. My alternator is still going after 3 years with the lights and I do run them a lot. It will put extra wear and tear on it tho. Winches draw a lot more current than lights so I'd be more worried about them
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I really like my KC's. I got the Apollo because I wanted something more "legal". They aren't DOT approved but they are within the legal limit for wattage so technically they are illegal but its not blatantly illegal to run like the Daylighters that I really wanted.

As far as max wattage, I have 2 55w lights and 2 110w lights that's 330w total. My alternator is still going after 3 years with the lights and I do run them a lot. It will put extra wear and tear on it tho. Winches draw a lot more current than lights so I'd be more worried about them

I want to put 2 KC 55w fogs on a brackets or a light bar. I don't think you need to change anything to do it. I was running 2 monster high current amplifiers in my WJ and had no problems, for 6 years.

Glad to see that you have no issues with that much wattage. I just want to help out the headlights a little bit so I can actually see in a wider pattern. Stock headlights are trash and my options are limited due to the mandatory Daylight Running Lamps here
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I started with KC Daylighters at my windshield. I was happy with them except I got tired of looking at the "basketballs" in the corners. I moved them to the bumper and replaced them with Dually D2s.

Much happier.
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I have a set on my lightbar. Great lights but the bulbs that come with them burn out ridiculously fast. I am constantly replacing bulbs on these things every couple of months and I only run them at sunset and dawn.
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I have a set on my lightbar. Great lights but the bulbs that come with them burn out ridiculously fast. I am constantly replacing bulbs on these things every couple of months and I only run them at sunset and dawn.
Good to know. Any other 55w fog applications worth recommending? Hella 500 or something else, with links if possible. Not looking for monstrous lights or output, but something slim and that will do the trick.
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Good to know. Any other 55w fog applications worth recommending? Hella 500 or something else, with links if possible. Not looking for monstrous lights or output, but something slim and that will do the trick.
I love my PIAA lights as well. I have them on my windshield. They come in a 55 and 110W bulb. I have The 110 in the smaller 510 lights but if I didn't already have KC's I wouldn't be against getting the larger 520's in a 55w. Downside is that they are pricey
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I have 130w daylighter spots on the windshield and 130 w driving lights on the bumper. Over the last year I drove through Wyoming and Montana several times with them on most of the night with no problems. The spots have a reflective range over a mile - I could see the green mile marker a mile away. With the spots, driving lights pointed off-center into the ditches and ecode headlights I could clearly see everything.

I've had LEDs and the color of the light is nice but they don't go as far and are too expensive for the same amount of power. Plus the 23 year warranty on the KC lights means no worry.
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I like the long-range slim-lites...
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I bought the 5" kc Apollo series lights for $90 and for the price and how much light the really put out at night I was shocked! The 5" apollos also don't block any of your view out of the front windshield with the smittybilt brackets.
Obviously it's not white light in the apollo series but with my 10" led bar and the kc's I put out plenty of light at night... Any other lights I put on now would just be for fun or looks!

That's me on the right. Next to my buddy's 2012 with the $150 rigid 2x2's on his along with his $20 procomp lights he uses as driving lights...
Ps- the $20 procomp lights are the $#%^ for filling in that empty dark spots we have at night and they are actual driving lights!

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Keep in mind that unless the lights are marked as DOT approved, they are not street legal and don't use them as such. Off road - anything goes.
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Keep in mind that unless the lights are marked as DOT approved, they are not street legal and don't use them as such. Off road - anything goes.
I agree on that point. But I'd run 55w driving/fog lights even if not DOT approved if mounted/aimed properly (bumper or bumper bar mount).

I'm not sure what people are running in some of these "tuners" locally, they must be grossly illegal as they are giving my eyeballs a suntan. I find all the HID systems to be blinding. Great for them as they can see, but bad for oncoming traffic.

I'm pondering the KC H4 headlight swap and the KC Apollo 55w fogs. Don't think I'll have any issues. I was running higher output stuff in my WJ for years and never got flashed. My eyesight isn't perfect and I need to see at night. The stock headlights are very dim in my 13' JKU. I'm sure most would agree.
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Something that I thought was going to be easy just became a lot more harder. I like the prices of Dually D2 Driving lights but i dont know about the square look.
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Something that I thought was going to be easy just became a lot more harder. I like the prices of Dually D2 Driving lights but i dont know about the square look.
The Rigid Dually series, do not hinder any of your field of view in the windshield.

Also why do you want to look like every other Jeep out there with big round lights on your A-pillar. Just sayin

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I just can get over the squat looks. The look is just off to me. Just bought my Spod so I better make a decision on what I want
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I have the KC slim lights spots on my windshield. There just okay, nothing spectacular as far as light output. I've had them for a year and a half and one of them blinks on and off sometimes. I will be replacing these with the Rigid lights soon.
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I have the KC slim lights spots on my windshield. There just okay, nothing spectacular as far as light output. I've had them for a year and a half and one of them blinks on and off sometimes. I will be replacing these with the Rigid lights soon.
23yr warranty... why don't you contact KC?
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5" KC Apollo 55w Fogs are installed. Will try to get a night shot later...

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Something that I thought was going to be easy just became a lot more harder. I like the prices of Dually D2 Driving lights but i dont know about the square look.
Dude don't even worry about the looks b ecause it's going to look perfect in your Jeep if it's the one in your pic
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23yr warranty... why don't you contact KC?
Yes your right, forgot about the great warranty.
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5" KC Apollo 55w Fogs are installed. Will try to get a night shot later...

If my Light Meter app on my smartphone is correct (and my eyeballs), my 55w fogs throw considerably more light than my factory low beam headlights Goes to show you how horrible the factory headlights are. It's just sad how Jeep skimped on factory lighting. Next I'll upgrade the pathetic H13's to H4.
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Kc winshield lights, well thats what I run with the funds I have. On the other hand if I had the cheese to spend on the LED's well I would run the LED's. However had the longrange daylighters on a K5 Blazer, bumper mounted, and they worked fine and the daylighters work fine on my JKU.

Low Beams


Low Beams + Fog


High Beams


Low Beams, Fog + Daylighters


High Beams + Daylighters


The actual view is a lot brighter than what you see in the picture but didn't want to take out the DSLR due to a couple rums.

Now the house is about 30 to 35yrds away but they are some quick, not so sober cell phone pics. If i had the disposable income I would love to get this lightbar setup.

Wish list lightbar


Hope that helps. I know, not the greatest pictures but better than nothing.
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I think the KC lights are "good value for the money". I'd rather save the money for other mods than get overly expensive light systems...
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If you are stuck on round halogen lights, look into LightForce. They make some really nice traditional lights that can be focused and add different filters for the conditions you are driving in. With the focus you can get a wider light pattern for slow wheeling and then a pencil beam for highway. I have Duallys on my windshield but am thinking about using a pair of LightForce on my bumper for a longer range light.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:37 AM   #29
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The lights were easy to install for me, the only problem I had was trying to find a place to mount the switch. I decided to save money with the KC lights. I bought the sPOD switches because I did not like have the ones I installed in a knot under my steering wheel.
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These Are the 6" Apollo kc's. They have been pretty good. there the straight beam(can't remember what they called it) lights up about twenty ft ahead of my jeep. Dont really have to turn on the head lights

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