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Old 09-11-2013, 01:06 AM   #1
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Kicker soundgate upgrade the new jk

Hello, I'm new here, I just bought a 2014 JK Wrangler Unlimited, I use to have a 2007 JK, I really enjoyed it except for the lack of Power, My new JK has almost 100 more Horse Power, and Wow !! This Jeep is SOOO Nice, What a difference in power and so many more upgrades, I'm looking to upgrade my sound system, I looking at the Kicker Sound-gate, You keep all the old speakers, and ad a Kicker Subwoofer and a computerized Power Amp. I watched on YouTube and it looks great for $699. Does anyone have this system ? Please let me know, Or is there a better upgrade ?? Thank You.

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I haven't heard this particular system, but I'm presuming you don't have the premium sound package - it won't work with the stock amp. Also, that sub is seriously fugly. Personally, for $700 I think I'd be doing a lot more upgrade than this offers.

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Old 10-26-2013, 12:39 AM   #3
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Well before you presume Judgement on something that you are not sure about, Watch the Video from the Sema Show, KICKER BOOTH Kicker Soundgate Powerstage System Overview | Crutchfield Video - YouTube

I did say that this system comes with a power. Amp.
Looks like a great upgrade for the NEW 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK
$699.00. And keep your stock speakers.


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I would be interested to see how it works in a JK. As far as I know, none of the available JK head units have pre-amp outputs, so you end up having to amplify the post-amp signal if you don't want to swap out the head unit....which is what this unit seems to be doing. That's not going to be nearly as clean....and it's not going to do squat about the poor quality of the satellite audio.

BTW, their site also states:
Multi-Channel Amplifier & Powered Subwoofer Upgrade System for 2011 & newer Jeep Wrangler, Two-Door with Base Audio. *Amp will not work with premium Infinity system.
Frankly, I don't need more bass. I'd just like cleaner sound.
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First of all, congrats on the new rig.

I am not an audiophile by any means but as a new 14' JKU owner the first thing I had to do was address the sound.

Surfed the web for a while, went to some stores etc.

I did not want to remove the stock head unit.

Eventually went with a 12" Kicker Sub in a ported box + REPLACED all 6 factory speakers with Alpine s-series. Added a mono amp for the sub neatly tucked under my drivers seat and another amp for the Alpines to correct the stock head unit sound issues and drive them nicely. Got it all professionally installed and tuned since I wanted it super clean.

It worked out great. Quality sound even with top of or windows down. Tons of bass. Very happy. Cost about 1100 hundred all-in, about double what I wanted to spend, but the quality of sound is about 3 times what I would get spending half the money and still retaining the stock head unit.

Just food for thought. I suspect you may be disappointed with the factory speakers and will need to address those and a sub. Subjective - it all what sound you like in the end.
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Amplifying stock speakers (which are usually crap) doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Just my opinion.

If it works, good for you then.
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I don't care what that guy says in the video. You cannot make stock speakers sound as good as aftermarket speakers with dsp just my two cents.
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I would be interested to see how it works in a JK. As far as I know, none of the available JK head units have pre-amp outputs, so you end up having to amplify the post-amp signal if you don't want to swap out the head unit....which is what this unit seems to be doing. That's not going to be nearly as clean....and it's not going to do squat about the poor quality of the satellite audio.

BTW, their site also states:
Multi-Channel Amplifier & Powered Subwoofer Upgrade System for 2011 & newer Jeep Wrangler, Two-Door with Base Audio. *Amp will not work with premium Infinity system.
Frankly, I don't need more bass. I'd just like cleaner sound.
It's referring to the base headunit in the Jeep.

I like the concept here - but I prefer aftermarket speakers. This system may work only based on if they made it to work with the 2 ohm speakers.

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I'd rather spend the same amount (or less) and upgrade everything.
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Anyone is free to do whatever they want in their vehicle. I've done some level of audio upgrade to every vehicle I've owned.

The order I've always followed is:
1) replace factory head unit
2) replace all factory speakers
3) install amp and sub
4) install multi-channel amp(s) to power the other speakers

Sometimes I don't go all the way to the final step. I just go in this order until I get to a sound quality that works for me in that particular vehicle.

For my Jeep I've gone through step 3 and doubt I'll bother with step 4. The only sound issue I'm having right now is some severe sibilance at higher volumes. Very annoying and still can't determine a fix.
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I installed the 6" Kickers from Mopar in the soundbar & dash. This was the best $130.00 I've spent in years. Clear music without distortion, stock speakers are junk. I threw all four in the Houston Ship Channel while cranking my Van Halen.
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Well before you presume Judgement on something that you are not sure about, Watch the Video from the Sema Show, KICKER BOOTH Kicker Soundgate Powerstage System Overview | Crutchfield Video - YouTube

I did say that this system comes with a power. Amp.
Looks like a great upgrade for the NEW 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK
$699.00. And keep your stock speakers.


You started by asking a question, and then took offense to the answer. I'm not "presuming judgement" (whatever that means) on anything, I'm telling you that $700 for this isn't a very good investment and it won't work very well if you have the Premium package.

It actually looks like a really crappy ugrade for the NEW 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK (or any other vehicle) compared to what you could actually do with that money, but please don't let anyone's years of experience with ICE get in the way of your sales pitch.
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Anyone is free to do whatever they want in their vehicle. I've done some level of audio upgrade to every vehicle I've owned.

The order I've always followed is:
1) replace factory head unit
2) replace all factory speakers
3) install amp and sub
4) install multi-channel amp(s) to power the other speakers

Sometimes I don't go all the way to the final step. I just go in this order until I get to a sound quality that works for me in that particular vehicle.

For my Jeep I've gone through step 3 and doubt I'll bother with step 4. The only sound issue I'm having right now is some severe sibilance at higher volumes. Very annoying and still can't determine a fix.
What did you replace the stock speakers with? If you used a component set with passive crossovers you may find that they have discrete attenuation controls. Some tweeters are just really bright, though.
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I went full Polk. This included Polk components in the front. I ended up removing the crossovers as they were too bright. Then I removed the tweeters and still way too bright.

I've never run Polk before so don't know if that is the problem. Tweaking the eq helped some but removed too much of the highs.

May try a different brand at some point.
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Hmm. I'm running Polk 6501 components at the moment and they're fine, and I haven't lowered the attenuation control at the crossover. If you have another head unit kicking around, I'd be tempted just to wire the power and the fronts into it and see if the problem remains - it might be an issue of the output.
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Hmm. I'm running Polk 6501 components at the moment and they're fine, and I haven't lowered the attenuation control at the crossover. If you have another head unit kicking around, I'd be tempted just to wire the power and the fronts into it and see if the problem remains - it might be an issue of the output.
I've got the full db series (I think) and have read reviews that they are too bright for some people. I plan to change head units soon as mine is now a few years old.

After they if the prob persists may look into trying kicker or pioneer as I've run those in the past and had no issues.
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Amplifying stock speakers (which are usually crap) doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Just my opinion.

If it works, good for you then.
I agree - the stock speakers cannot handle more than the factory sound power - and they need bass blockers as well..

Save your money on this weird thing and upgrade to a sub and amp - and then replace the factory speakers with similar sizes that have higher sensitivity (more loudness per watt) and better range.. You'll get more volume from the stock head unit, better clarity, and the sub will fill in the low end - probably for a similar price to this "soundgate" you're referring to.

The head unit is pretty limiting in quality - but the speakers are a bigger weakness. The only reason I wont upgrade the head unit is because no one aftermarket sells a voice-command system within a reasonable price range.

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