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Old 08-06-2014, 01:47 PM   #1
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Kicker Speakers

Do the kicker speakers sound better than the optional Alpine speakers which come in a 2014 Sport?
I know the speakers in the soundbar are easy to replace. Are the two in the bottom of the dash as easy?

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Old 08-06-2014, 02:36 PM   #2
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I have the kickers for the soundbar ordered through ($160.00) Quadratec, they ROCK! I've seen the installation diagram for the front speakers and it looks like a pain in the @#$.

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I changed out all 4 speakers for Kickers, and I am very happy with the results.

You do not have to disassemble the entire front dash to install the front speakers. Somebody on the forum posted easy step-by-step instructions for installing the front speakers with minimal panel removal.

The soundbar speakers are a piece of cake to replace.
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I have the kickers for the soundbar ordered through ($160.00) Quadratec, they ROCK! I've seen the installation diagram for the front speakers and it looks like a pain in the @#$.
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I changed out all 4 speakers for Kickers, and I am very happy with the results.

You do not have to disassemble the entire front dash to install the front speakers. Somebody on the forum posted easy step-by-step instructions for installing the front speakers with minimal panel removal.

The soundbar speakers are a piece of cake to replace.
Correct, no need to take the whole dash apart, like the instructions indicate. That's just crazy!

Start by following the instructions and you'll pull 2 or 3 screws out. Then you'll take the side plate off the dash, over where the doors are (it just pulls out, no screws.) Once I did that, I realized the whole dash panel over the speaker will flex out enough to get a right-angle ratcheting screwdriver in and undo the three screws that hold the speaker. Piece of cake!

Would be easier if the speakers were held in with hex-head bolts or allen bolts instead of Philips head screws, because it's a little tiring trying to keep enough "push" on the driver to keep it engaged with the Philips head screw. But I just replaced the screws when I had them out, with hex-heads, so won't be a problem in the future.

Sears stocks these also, if you don't want to order. Probably PepBoys, HomeDepot, Lowes, but I don't know for sure.

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Old 08-06-2014, 03:46 PM   #5
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^ Good info!

Does anyone have the thread or link for the minimal panel removal DIY video?
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:56 PM   #6
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I have the kickers for the soundbar ordered through ($160.00) Quadratec, they ROCK! I've seen the installation diagram for the front speakers and it looks like a pain in the @#$.
You can order the speakers through Amazon for ~$77. Just search for 77KICK10, that is the MOPAR part number. I did the soundbar in about 10 minutes. I suggest while you have the speakers out you stuff the soundbar with polyfil, $3-5 at WalMart.

I will do the dash speaker on Friday and let you know how that goes. The instructions don't actually look that bad.

Just a tip, having a ratcheting wrench or, for example, the Kobalt wrist ratchet with some torx bits makes the install way easier than torx bit screw drivers.
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The speakers are generally going to sound the same, no matter what you put in there. the kickers are 4 ohm, and the system was based on 2 ohm infinity's. Ditch your amp that came with it if it has one, get your own.

That being said, you will notice a slight difference if you don't have infinity. And when you replace the rears...poly-fil. I have polyfilled the front boxes, the soundbar, and the sub.
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+ polyfil the soundbar and sub before changing anything. It is a drastic enough difference that you may not waste the money. My eq is set at +3 Bass -6Mid +1Treble and faded 3 towards the back. All my buddies thought I upgraded until I told them about the $6 bag of poly fill and my eq adjustments. 730n here.
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Wow,thanks for all the great information. I don't want to change the amp, are there better 2 ohm speakers than the Alpines. I need plug and play.
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+ polyfil the soundbar and sub before changing anything. It is a drastic enough difference that you may not waste the money. My eq is set at +3 Bass -6Mid +1Treble and faded 3 towards the back. All my buddies thought I upgraded until I told them about the $6 bag of poly fill and my eq adjustments. 730n here.
+1 on the PolyFill. Also, while I had the speakers out I lined the enclosures with dynamat. The improvement was awesome.
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I know a lot of the people that change them out also go with the polk's. Again it is hard to get good sound from the factory when the amp kills the sound going out. I even tried the Nitro amp trick/advice....don't waste your money.
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The speakers are generally going to sound the same, no matter what you put in there. the kickers are 4 ohm, and the system was based on 2 ohm infinity's. Ditch your amp that came with it if it has one, get your own.

That being said, you will notice a slight difference if you don't have infinity. And when you replace the rears...poly-fil. I have polyfilled the front boxes, the soundbar, and the sub.
A) Do you need a 4 channel amp or a 6 channel amp?
B) What's a good amp you recommend? I'm looking for best bang for the buck.
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Any amp will work fine, just depends on where you put it. The factory amp is right in front of your knees below the wheel...if you have one.

The best route is to bypass the facotry amp with a harness to add an amp, and run wire to your speakers. right now, I have a shallow mount sub in the factory encolsure, had to jerry rig a faceplate, and a mono amp that comes off my head unit via an adapter. gives me the bass I want, and I didnt mess with the factory wiring or amp.

So you could say I have two amps running.

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A) Do you need a 4 channel amp or a 6 channel amp?
B) What's a good amp you recommend? I'm looking for best bang for the buck.
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^ Thanks for the help. I'm been trying to figure out the best way to change out my piece of $hit stock system the most cost effective way. So far my research has lead me to get the

Mopar Kicker replacment speakers for the sound bar
Alpine Component Speakers for the Front
Alpine SPR-60C Type-R 6-3/4" component speaker system — also fits 6-1/2" openings at Crutchfield.com
A four channel amp with 40 RMS x 4
And this Subwoofer for under the drivers seat
Kenwood KSC-SW11 Compact powered subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

Is that all I need?
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:51 AM   #16
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Sounds good to me. Do a quick search for how people are modifying the tweeters by soldering on a resistor...I can't remember where it is or what its called. but for 6 bucks, you might not need to. But if you are looking at throwing down a little coin, get a new head unit, it is the source of the problem, and bypass that factory sh*t amp. I also ran a powered sub for a while in my 2 door, was the infinity basslink, and it sounded great with the factory system.

I also see no reason to buy an amp if you arent going to run new wires to the speakers. That sub should be powered by itself.
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^ Thanks for the help. I'm been trying to figure out the best way to change out my piece of $hit stock system the most cost effective way. So far my research has lead me to get the

Mopar Kicker replacment speakers for the sound bar
Alpine Component Speakers for the Front
Alpine SPR-60C Type-R 6-3/4" component speaker system — also fits 6-1/2" openings at Crutchfield.com
A four channel amp with 40 RMS x 4
And this Subwoofer for under the drivers seat
Kenwood KSC-SW11 Compact powered subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

Is that all I need?
Let me know how the Kickers in the soundbar sound.
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I changed out all of my stock Alpine speakers to the Kicker 77kick10 speakers and they sound much better. When I have the roof off, I often turn up the radio and the stock speakers would distort pretty bad. With the Kicker speakers, I can really crank up the radio and they never distort. The sound bar installation was very simple. It took maybe 5 minutes per speaker. You have to wrestle the speakers out of the dash, but they are not too terribly difficult. Check Ebay, you can get the Kicker speakers there new for around $67 for a pair.
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Look for my thread in the tech section. I posted a step by step with pictures and what tools you need. Be careful with the polyfill. Too much and it will sound like crap. Do not just stuff it in there. Pull it apart and fluff it out before you put it in.
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Another Noob Question...

What are the benefits of getting a component system? From my understanding the only difference is that it comes with crossovers. Are new crossovers important? Or can I get just as good sound by just swapping out the stock speakers.
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^ Thanks for the help. I'm been trying to figure out the best way to change out my piece of $hit stock system the most cost effective way. So far my research has lead me to get the

Mopar Kicker replacment speakers for the sound bar
Alpine Component Speakers for the Front
Alpine SPR-60C Type-R 6-3/4" component speaker system — also fits 6-1/2" openings at Crutchfield.com
A four channel amp with 40 RMS x 4
And this Subwoofer for under the drivers seat
Kenwood KSC-SW11 Compact powered subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

Is that all I need?
The problem that I've found with mix matching speaker manufacturers is that you will likely favor the sound of one set over the other set of speakers. Then, you have to add another set of the speakers that you like best. It's better to listen to both and decide which ones you like best, before you put them into your Jeep.

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