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Old 07-25-2013, 06:08 PM   #61
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I credit dropping some weight, and sadly beer. But also I really upped my intake of water, I still enjoy a soda but only after I down a couple 16oz bottles of water, I try to drink a minimum of 100oz of water a day.

I also tried to watch out for high fructos corn syrup, which is a lot harder then you may think. I had read this from the mayo clinc diet, "he only carbohydrate known to increase uric acid. It is best to avoid beverages sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup."

This site is a read, Gout diet: What's allowed, what's not - MayoClinic.com
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Wow that diet looks brutal... I love eating dead animals! AND my favorite 2 vegetables are mushrooms and asparagus... Which apparently are a no no... This is seriously going to be a huge 180 change for me. thanks for all the info guys... I go back to the urologist on the 31st to get another CT and decide the path forward... At least i got some good pain meds, still rather have a big IPA right now.

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I hear ya, and I don't follow it completely but I did review it and decide to modify some things. I still eat fresh asparagus and some other items on the list, but it had some good tips and advice. My smoker would chase me down if I didn't keep cooking brisket, ribs and pork. Like everything in life it's about moderation, except the water. Good luck!
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So this thread has jinxed my wife. She's had stones twice before and is having flank pain and bloody urine today. This also really sucks for me because she's supposed to count laps for me this evening in an annual 5K swim race I'm doing. I'm thinking maybe I should skip the race.
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So this thread has jinxed my wife. She's had stones twice before and is having flank pain and bloody urine today. This also really sucks for me because she's supposed to count laps for me this evening in an annual 5K swim race I'm doing. I'm thinking maybe I should skip the race.
Take care of your wife man, eventually she will need to take care of you Hope she does better... Trust me, we all have been there or still are :/
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Kidney stone treatment:
1. Inflate Jeep tires to 60psi
2. Drink 2 gallons of water
3. Run this road at 20 mph or more

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This sounds crazy.

I had a job I hated and had stones every year or so.

Changed jobs, professions actually, and haven't had one in 23 years.

Go figure.
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I tried that gout diet once I was diagnosed with it. My uric acid level never got to normal. What was do funny was my mother in law at the time, kept harassing me about how it was all my fault and my poor food choices. I didn't eat out then, and I worked through lunch every day. She was the one who cooked for our family and we all ate the same thing, and I was the only one with issues. When I asked her tho explain how I ate differently, she had no answer....

I honestly believe some things simply are heredity or damaged caused earlier in life. Not everything can be fixed by diet and or exercise.
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The one factor your left out is STRESS!
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Take care of your wife man, eventually she will need to take care of you Hope she does better... Trust me, we all have been there or still are :/
She's a real trooper. Wouldn't let me not swim. She sat and counted for me for the entire 76 minutes it took to swim. I'm lucky to have her.
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Another one bites the dust!! I hope that this is the last one for a while...
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Kidney stones are terrible and the stent they put in is anywhere near good also. I had one in for a little over a week after surgery and was told to pull it out myself at home! Needless to say pulling out two feet of tubing with no pain meds took six hours feel like I was in a horror flick!
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They are crazy. Men's Health did a sorry on them a while back. Stated there are 14+ different kinds and passing one is on par with child birth.
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Another one bites the dust!! I hope that this is the last one for a while...
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I passed a white star about 10 years ago lots of pain. And a black one 6 years ago. black one just ploped in to toilet stool. No pain both about 1/16 diameter.
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Passed one a couple of years ago. Hit me in the middle of the night. Sat up all night thinking it was just something I ate. After about six hours of dealing with the incredible pain I finally went to the hospital. Took me a whole day to pass that son of a gun. Thank goodness for pain killers.
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I am resurrecting this old thread just as advice to people in a similar situation. Christmas morning I woke up early to get my kids up and within half hour I was in the ER with the worst pain in my life. Literally, almost passed out and vomited the pain was so intense. Spent my entire Christmas day in the ER which brought me to tears. Not over the pain but that my two kids Christmas was effected, but that's a whole other side note.

The cause of my stones are pretty obvious. Lack of water. I work 14 hours a day pretty often in a high stress job, and at 44 have been neglecting my body for too long. (Like many of us I am sure). Do yourself a favor and DRINK WATER. I have been dealing with this since Christmas and just yesterday had to have a surgery to remove a stone that was lodged in my ureter. (Again, not fun).

My last point is really just me preaching, but here it goes. For the longest time I have been chasing "the buck." Working tons of OT, promoting as much as possible, taking the difficult assignments, so on and so on. My "epiphany through pain" was "Me first, work second." Retirement would be great with more money, but dying two years after I retire because of not taking care of myself would be........well you know. So more me and family time, and less chasing the dollar. Hope this helps someone. Hope to see you all on the trail when we are in our 80's !!!!
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I am resurrecting this old thread just as advice to people in a similar situation. Christmas morning I woke up early to get my kids up and within half hour I was in the ER with the worst pain in my life. Literally, almost passed out and vomited the pain was so intense. Spent my entire Christmas day in the ER which brought me to tears. Not over the pain but that my two kids Christmas was effected, but that's a whole other side note.

The cause of my stones are pretty obvious. Lack of water. I work 14 hours a day pretty often in a high stress job, and at 44 have been neglecting my body for too long. (Like many of us I am sure). Do yourself a favor and DRINK WATER. I have been dealing with this since Christmas and just yesterday had to have a surgery to remove a stone that was lodged in my ureter. (Again, not fun).

My last point is really just me preaching, but here it goes. For the longest time I have been chasing "the buck." Working tons of OT, promoting as much as possible, taking the difficult assignments, so on and so on. My "epiphany through pain" was "Me first, work second." Retirement would be great with more money, but dying two years after I retire because of not taking care of myself would be........well you know. So more me and family time, and less chasing the dollar. Hope this helps someone. Hope to see you all on the trail when we are in our 80's !!!!
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I hear I should be putting some lemon in the water too......
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The stent caused lots of complications in my case, a constant need to urinate plus about a pint of blood a day. I had a different urologist get it out of me after a month of torture. I heard some cases where people had them remove in offices and not OR's with no anesthetic.
Dude I had to get kidney stone "surgery" they went up the weiner-hole and smashed it to pieces, then left a stent in so I could pee out the sand and told me to take it out myself in the shower or I could come in. I had a string hanging out of my junk that hurt and felt weird every time I moved. So, when it was time I started pulling it out by the string and then the stent started to come out too, and I almost fainted in the shower and got light headed but pulled that mofo out. I agree, avoid that, it was the worst.

That bad news... driving a jeep on the trails might just knock more stones loose...
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Perfectly timed thread.
I just bought our Jeep in November. Got my first kidney stone(s) in December. I'm pretty sure dehydration is to blame. I quit drinking coffee a couple of months earlier and never really replaced the fluids with anything. I enjoyed the fact I only had to go to the can twice a day. When I went to the ER (Dec20), the 3rd day of 2am pains (only lasted for 3 hours at a time), I was puking from the pain. Kidney function was at 60% and the doctor said I was dehydrated. Xrays back on December 23 showed small kidney stones. I just went for a CT scan yesterday, results pending. Aside from the last week or so with the feeling that I have to pee all the time, I've had no discomfort or pain. I've been told that I would know for sure when a stone comes down the pipe. It hasn't happened yet. Been drinking 2.5 liters of water a day, as prescribed. After reading all of the potential issues I may have, fingers crossed that things have magically remedied themselves. Hopefully the doctor phones with some good news.
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Been there very recently and I think, no, I KNOW I don't want that experience again.
I hear I should be putting some lemon in the water too......
Yes the lemon thing is true. The acids are supposed to dull the sharp edges of the stones allowing them to pass easier. I have 12 lemons on my counter as we speak.
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Perfectly timed thread.
I just bought our Jeep in November. Got my first kidney stone(s) in December. I'm pretty sure dehydration is to blame. I quit drinking coffee a couple of months earlier and never really replaced the fluids with anything. I enjoyed the fact I only had to go to the can twice a day. When I went to the ER (Dec20), the 3rd day of 2am pains (only lasted for 3 hours at a time), I was puking from the pain. Kidney function was at 60% and the doctor said I was dehydrated. Xrays back on December 23 showed small kidney stones. I just went for a CT scan yesterday, results pending. Aside from the last week or so with the feeling that I have to pee all the time, I've had no discomfort or pain. I've been told that I would know for sure when a stone comes down the pipe. It hasn't happened yet. Been drinking 2.5 liters of water a day, as prescribed. After reading all of the potential issues I may have, fingers crossed that things have magically remedied themselves. Hopefully the doctor phones with some good news.
I passed two stones then was told I had a 5 mm stone still in my kidney. CT scan found it. Went a few weeks later for a Xray and was told "its gone" by my general practitioner. I was stoked. Took the Xrays to my Urologist and he laughed and told me it was now stuck in my ureter. Hence the Lithtripsy I just had. I hope you get better news then I did.

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I have been dealing with kidney stones for years. I try to drink plenty but, hey, sometimes I forget. Stones are not an issue as long as they stay put in the kidney. The problem comes when they break loose and begin their journey south. That is when it becomes painful. Last time they checked, I had 7 on one side and 5 on the other. I've had more trips to the ER than I care to recall. I now recognize the early signs/discomfort and take action. I down lots of water and check to be sure the percocet is handy. My doc gave me a script and told me to travel with it, for those flare-ups that extra fluids can't resolve. If you find yourself suffering from recurring attacks, check with your regular doc or urologist and get a script for your favorite happy pills and keep them handy. It may help you avoid those unpleasant ER visits.

And remember, as my urologist told me, this too will pass!

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So, other than drinking more are there any foods you are supposed to avoid? I have a 5mm and a 6mm stuck in the ureter now and one more still in the kidney. I drink more fluids the last few years but eat a lot of salt and soda which I have stopped recently. Dealing with these two stones for over 3 weeks. Urologist says once these are gone he will do some tests to help with what foods to avoid.
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They tested mine and they were calcium based. However, they told me it was not from drinking milk, eating ice cream or any other dairy products. He said my metabolism and genetics played a role in their formation. I had a co-worker who was a vegetarian who had a similar problem and he was told his diet was not a factor. Basically, some of us are predisposed to forming stones. Their best advice, hydrate, hydrate and hydrate some more.
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So, other than drinking more are there any foods you are supposed to avoid? I have a 5mm and a 6mm stuck in the ureter now and one more still in the kidney. I drink more fluids the last few years but eat a lot of salt and soda which I have stopped recently. Dealing with these two stones for over 3 weeks. Urologist says once these are gone he will do some tests to help with what foods to avoid.
Surprised they aren't doing a Lithotripsy. Mine was 5mm and stuck in the Ureter and not moving. I was told that depending on the type of stone will depend on its causes, which is why they want you to catch them and have them tested. Some types make you avoid Spinach, Strawberry's Asparagus and other foods that for the most part are good for you. I was told absolutely no Soda or black tea. Black tea is apparently really bad for you if your prone to stones. I stick with water with lemon now. One cup of coffee and day (down from 3) and green tea. Green tea seems to be good for you in many different ways so making a habit out of drinking it is a good thing. Oh and red wine. I won't give up my red wine.
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I have a followup appointment scheduled for March 1st but he assumes he will see me before that because I can't take the pain anymore or have the fever/vomiting and end up in the emergency room. My thing is I only have the severe pain, etc every few days. I have gone as long as 6 days between pain days. The last one felt like it was about to pass but I don't think it is in the bladder yet. Just a time bomb waiting. I think he is hoping the 5mm one will pass on its own. It is low enough they have to go in from below and the other is up higher so two different surgeries? Hoping they move! I hate the waiting game.
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Definitely stay away from soda.
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I have had kidney stones 8 or 9 times I get them every 4 years. Last time I fought pain for 7 days ten went to emergency room. They gave me pain meds and sent me home. I mixed 2 oz. olive oil with 2 oz. lemon juice and drank it (that went down pretty ruff) followed by 12 oz. water. Then every 30 min. mix 2 oz. lemon juice with 1 oz. Bragg apple cider vinegar with 12 oz. water and drink that every 30 minutes until stones pass. The next day passed stones.
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Do you guys have your uric acid tested routinely? The normal range for me at my age is 4.2-8.0 mg/dL ... my last test result was ~9.4 mg/dL. The doctor wants me to go back on Uloric.

I had one 5mm stone many years ago - calcium origin, I passed it with minimal discomfort. My dad used to get them when I was a kid. He also had gout which runs in the family..

The one and only severe gout attack I've ever had was in my ankle 5 years ago. For various reasons, I found my uric acid had climbed from 6.0 to 11.0 mg/dL and the pain was intense - felt like someone stabbed me with a knife in my ankle. I was perscribed Uloric to reduce the uric acid in my blood.

My uric acid result history was always below the high end of the range - back then the normal range was 4.2-7.0. mg/dL.

The take away for me was to monitor my uric acid levels.. and when it starts to climb, reduce the amount of purines in my diet. When I'm on Uloric, my uric acid is ~4.0 mg/dL - the low end of the range.

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