Leak problem with Mopar Door Sill Guard - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 07-15-2013, 09:30 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Leak problem with Mopar Door Sill Guard

I have 2012 JKUR and had installed Mopar Door Sill Guard. I love them. This year I got jetski - I love it too

I noticed after trip to the lake the jeep's floor is soaking wet. First time I told I did not close the door good but it is like this every time. Today I checked the door seals with hose and discovered that all 4 doors leak very bad at the sill guard ends, both end, all of them. If I go to the dealer ship they will tell me that this is aftermarket item and this is the problem but it is mopar and it was made for jeep. I don't want to remove them but son't want water inside my jeep so I don't know how to fix it without removing them.

I need help of any kind fixing that

Thanks

TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-15-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
kik
Jeeper
 
kik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,579
Images: 1
I've had the Mopar sill guards on for over 3 yrs. with no problems or leaks. Make sure your door seals are in the tracks. It's possible that there's a problem with the sills. If you installed them did you fit them into the "notch" at the sill plate?

kik is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-15-2013, 10:10 PM   #3
rotaredoM

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
panthermark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago-land
Posts: 9,645
Images: 13
I have not had any problems with mine.
__________________
2013 Sahara Unlimited
Billet - Auto - 3.73 - Connectivity - Painted Hardtop - LSD - Remote Start - Saddle Leather - Side Airbags

I may mall crawl...but I look good doing it.....
panthermark is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 11:07 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ny
Posts: 420
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGunMan View Post
I have 2012 JKUR and had installed Mopar Door Sill Guard. I love them. This year I got jetski - I love it too

I noticed after trip to the lake the jeep's floor is soaking wet. First time I told I did not close the door good but it is like this every time. Today I checked the door seals with hose and discovered that all 4 doors leak very bad at the sill guard ends, both end, all of them. If I go to the dealer ship they will tell me that this is aftermarket item and this is the problem but it is mopar and it was made for jeep. I don't want to remove them but son't want water inside my jeep so I don't know how to fix it without removing them.

I need help of any kind fixing that

Thanks
Post some pictures, I have a two door with them on for over three years and no leaking issues.
deepbluerubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 11:15 AM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: South Phoenix
Posts: 298
I have also installed them and have seen no issues. We went through some pretty deep water at the beach last time and surely they would have leaked if there was an issue.

I have also been to the car wash several times. Especially after our beach trip and I sprayed the crap out of the Jeep for over an hour making sure I got all the salt off. I focused a lot on the door cracks to make sure everything washed off. No signs of leaking either.

The only part that leaked a tiny bit was the hard top where the front panel meets the rear shell.
__________________
2012 JKU Sport Silver - Max Tow, Trac-Lok LSD, Auto, Sport S package, Hardtop.

MODS: See garage, bunch of fun stuff underway.
BacaraJKU is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 11:55 AM   #6
Jeeper
 
Flint_Holbrook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Clover
Posts: 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGunMan View Post
I have 2012 JKUR and had installed Mopar Door Sill Guard. I love them. This year I got jetski - I love it too

I noticed after trip to the lake the jeep's floor is soaking wet. First time I told I did not close the door good but it is like this every time. Today I checked the door seals with hose and discovered that all 4 doors leak very bad at the sill guard ends, both end, all of them. If I go to the dealer ship they will tell me that this is aftermarket item and this is the problem but it is mopar and it was made for jeep. I don't want to remove them but son't want water inside my jeep so I don't know how to fix it without removing them.

I need help of any kind fixing that

Thanks
I have these installed on my 2013 the day I brought it home. I too believe these are the culprit of damp passenger side floor after heavy rain. I can see the water trail on the plastic where it drains into the floor/mat.
Flint_Holbrook is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 12:13 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
I will post pics and video later but it leaks a lot IMHO
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 06:17 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
There are pics of the seal






this is the video:



friend of mine was spraying with hose the gap between the body and the door sn you can see how easy the water gets in. It is same for all the dors both sides of the seal guard so I have 8 entry points for water to come in.

I need solution very bad!

Thanks
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 06:32 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
clayps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 151
Mine do the same thing. Not sure if it did it before as I put them on shortly after I bought it used. It almost looks like the water is coming up behind the seal and not underneath. If that makes any sense. Mine only leaks on passenger side (2 door)
__________________
Clayps
2010 Jeep Wrangler Sport - Mountain Edition

Manual Transmission
Dual Top
clayps is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 06:47 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
AverageJK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 1,226
Images: 1
I have the sills and make sure to spray with a high pressure in the gap there to clear dirt and mud out, never leaked inside yet.
__________________
2013 Moab
"Insert mod list here."
My Average JK Build Thread
My Jeep Profile
AverageJK is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 07:25 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ny
Posts: 420
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGunMan View Post
There are pics of the seal






this is the video:



friend of mine was spraying with hose the gap between the body and the door sn you can see how easy the water gets in. It is same for all the dors both sides of the seal guard so I have 8 entry points for water to come in.

I need solution very bad!

Thanks
Not sure about four door version, but yours might not be MOPAR sills. Look at mine it says jeep on it and they don't protrude like yours. They are definitely causing you a leak look at the indentation on your weather-stripping. Mine are flush with the metal sill.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	001.jpg
Views:	124
Size:	224.8 KB
ID:	273738  
deepbluerubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 09:26 PM   #12
kik
Jeeper
 
kik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,579
Images: 1
The Mopar 4dr rear sill plate guards don't have the Jeep logo like the front. It almost looks like the one in the photo was installed on the wrong side of the vehicle. Other than that there shouldn't be a problem. And, I'm not 100% sure on the direction since I have a 2dr. Maybe someone with a 4dr can post a pic of the rear to see if the direction is the same.
kik is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 10:34 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by deepbluerubi View Post
Not sure about four door version, but yours might not be MOPAR sills. Look at mine it says jeep on it and they don't protrude like yours. They are definitely causing you a leak look at the indentation on your weather-stripping. Mine are flush with the metal sill.

The one on the pic is rear left door, I do have jeep logo on front and I purchased them from mopar so they has to be mopar
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-16-2013, 10:36 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by kik View Post
The Mopar 4dr rear sill plate guards don't have the Jeep logo like the front. It almost looks like the one in the photo was installed on the wrong side of the vehicle. Other than that there shouldn't be a problem. And, I'm not 100% sure on the direction since I have a 2dr. Maybe someone with a 4dr can post a pic of the rear to see if the direction is the same.
Rear can not be mounted wrong - if wrong one is there it does not fit
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 09:03 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ny
Posts: 420
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGunMan View Post
Rear can not be mounted wrong - if wrong one is there it does not fit
The only thing I can think is maybe the sills were not pressed up against the seam really tight and are then protruding out too much. You can remove them and see if it still leaks without them. I would also try conditioning the seal with some 303 protectant first. Best of luck, but is there really that much water getting in? Might be one of those issues you have to choose between a bit of water occasionally getting in or the painted sill getting scratched.
deepbluerubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 09:51 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: East TN
Posts: 111
I just put them on my 2 door and after reading this thread when I washed it yesterday I shot the hose around the door seal for quite a while and nothing leaked. Most likely if it was in water past the door opening it would leak. I took a little grease, put it on the seal, slammed the door and there is a small gap where the seal doesnt contact right where the plastic sill gaurd tapers to the body.

Maybe over time the seal will conform a little better, I made sure I pressed it as hard as I could against the vertical surface before pushing them down on the tape when installing. As mentioned, its either deal with scratching the paint or a possible leak the way they are made.
KP50 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 10:36 AM   #17
Vin
Jeeper
 
Vin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Long Island
Posts: 1,487
I've read that the door sil may compromise the the water proofness of the door. When I installed them on my 2010 it didn't leak, but it's a Jeep. Pull the carpet and pull the plugs.::thumbsup::
Vin is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 11:25 AM   #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by deepbluerubi View Post
The only thing I can think is maybe the sills were not pressed up against the seam really tight and are then protruding out too much. You can remove them and see if it still leaks without them. I would also try conditioning the seal with some 303 protectant first. Best of luck, but is there really that much water getting in? Might be one of those issues you have to choose between a bit of water occasionally getting in or the painted sill getting scratched.
After trip to the lake with my jetski all the carpeting in there is soaking wet. When i launch I have to drive the jeep in the lake and the water leel outside gets up to the lower hinge.

May be if I go to the dealership and ask to adjust the doors to close more tight it well seal?
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 12:16 PM   #19
Jeeper
 
onetraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Alaska
Posts: 724
You should not need to back your Jeep that far into the water to launch and recover your jet-skis. In fact, you shouldn't need to go much beyond getting the rear tires at the water's edge.

Can you post a picture of your Jeep with the trailer? Something sounds very wrong.

Mike
__________________
2013 JKU Sahara, Commando Green - 2.5" Franken Lift - Rancho 9000xl shocks - 275/70r18 Cooper ST Maxx in summer - 265/70r18 Bizzaks in winter

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/re...ho-627602.html
onetraveller is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 07:34 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
The ramp is long and not that much inclined so I am forced to go deeper /not always to the bottom hinge but it may happen/

Will post pic with jeep and trailer later today
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-17-2013, 08:04 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
Lithium Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 804
Solution: Lift the Jeep
Lithium Lotus is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-18-2013, 12:47 PM   #22
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Quote:
You should not need to back your Jeep that far into the water to launch and recover your jet-skis. In fact, you shouldn't need to go much beyond getting the rear tires at the water's edge.

Can you post a picture of your Jeep with the trailer? Something sounds very wrong.

Mike
This is the JEEP with the jetskis

TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-18-2013, 02:58 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: South Phoenix
Posts: 298
Is it me or do those jet skis look huge behind the Jeep. I can see you you have to back down so deep.


Just curious, don't they make low profile trailer for jet skis? My RZR4 is gonna look huge behind my jeep when I pick it up.
__________________
2012 JKU Sport Silver - Max Tow, Trac-Lok LSD, Auto, Sport S package, Hardtop.

MODS: See garage, bunch of fun stuff underway.
BacaraJKU is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-18-2013, 05:26 PM   #24
Jeeper
 
onetraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Alaska
Posts: 724
I'd look at ways to ease the launching; smaller tires, lower the jet ski cradles, lengthen the trailer tongue, use an extended trailer hitch.

I lived in SW Florida and towed an 18' flats boat with a mustang convertible. Never did more than get the rear rubber wet. But the trailer was longer, so I didn't need to back in quite as far.

Or use this as an excuse for a 4" lift and a set of 35s.

Mike
__________________
2013 JKU Sahara, Commando Green - 2.5" Franken Lift - Rancho 9000xl shocks - 275/70r18 Cooper ST Maxx in summer - 265/70r18 Bizzaks in winter

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/re...ho-627602.html
onetraveller is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-18-2013, 05:31 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
CorvusCorax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Shediac, NB, Can
Posts: 179
I have a 2013 2 door that leaks over the door sill and it has no sill guards...it's going in tomorrow to get checked out.
CorvusCorax is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-18-2013, 06:09 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by BacaraJKU View Post
Is it me or do those jet skis look huge behind the Jeep. I can see you you have to back down so deep.


Just curious, don't they make low profile trailer for jet skis? My RZR4 is gonna look huge behind my jeep when I pick it up.
They arw not that big compered to the jeep, it's the angle of the shot
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-18-2013, 06:12 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetraveller View Post
I'd look at ways to ease the launching; smaller tires, lower the jet ski cradles, lengthen the trailer tongue, use an extended trailer hitch.

I lived in SW Florida and towed an 18' flats boat with a mustang convertible. Never did more than get the rear rubber wet. But the trailer was longer, so I didn't need to back in quite as far.

Or use this as an excuse for a 4" lift and a set of 35s.

Mike
If I lower the ski's they rub in trailer's fenders.

I don't see the point to so so much expensive changes to the jetski trailer if te jeep is asvertised tha can be in water ip to trail rated logo.

One of the advantages that sealed the deal for me pirchasing the jeep was that I can get in te water and not turning the jeep in to fish tank.

It is very sad to find that in order to make $40k car to work as advertised you have to spend a lot more on after market modifications
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-22-2013, 06:40 PM   #28
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
I called the dealership and got appointment in 2 weeks so will see what they will say
TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-22-2013, 06:46 PM   #29
dirt road inspector

WF Supporting Member
 
tomthbomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Deep East Texas
Posts: 2,438
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGunMan View Post
I called the dealership and got appointment in 2 weeks so will see what they will say
Now that is quality service!
__________________
tomthbomb is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-26-2013, 10:39 PM   #30
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 40
Today I went to the dealership after my JEEP stayed there for two weeks and they told me that all 2012 leak from the hard top and if any water splashes the seal of the door at the bottom it will leak and this is standard and not considered to be an issue.

I guess I have to by rain coat and rubber boots

So I guess all of you with 2012 with hard tops has the same issue since this is standard for the model

TheGunMan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC