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Old 05-06-2013, 10:55 AM   #1
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Lets talk about Steering Stabilizers

So if there is one thing I'm not 100% satisfied with when it comes to my Jeep, it would be the light steering. Even new, I always felt it was too light. The 2-door has a severe problem with cross-wind drag. Whenever its somewhat windy out, the Jeep gets blown around like a leaf. On the highway it becomes much more drastic. Add a set of aggressive chunky tires and a lift to the mix and things get progressively worse.

We all know that the basic function of a steering stabilizer is to help reduce steering resonance and absorb impacts preventing steering shakes (Bump steer). But can a steering stabilizer help stiffen the steering itself? Coming from a german tuner background, we were always focused on speed and maintaining control, a good setup would tighten the steering response the faster you got. Obviously, speed isn't a concern with Jeeps, but control still is. Especially if your driving a 2 door on a highway. What can be used to help tighten things up?

The first product that came to mind is the firmness adjustable SS from Fox. Its pricey ($355) but can it help firm up the steering?



Then there's the monster Rough Country Dual stabilizer kit $129
it looks overkill and the company itself doesn't have the greatest rep in terms of longevity, but I like the fact that the resistance is more parallel. Putting a shock absorber directed to each side, seems like a good approach


Then we have the good 'Ole OME steering stabilizer. This is at a great price $111 and offers a nice relocation bracket and its overall a nice bump up from the stock piece. Its the go-to replacement if your stock stabilizer takes a hit while on the trail, but I don't see it adding that much more in terms of tightening up the steering.


Those are the three directions I have seen these things in. We all know that in theory a steering stabilizer isn't necessary if your suspension and steering is dialed in perfectly. But I'm looking to improve and tighten things up. Any other suggestions?

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Old 05-06-2013, 11:13 AM   #2
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Subscribed. I'm interested in this topic myself.

I think Elarson has the Fox ATS on his JKU. I'd be interested in hearing his input on how he likes it and if he noticed an improvement over the stock SS.

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Ranchos new 7000 series. Nice tight feel to the steering. Only drawback is the slight push some nitro shocks are known for.

I ran RC's duel SS for a while. Nice setup but overkill for most.
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Did if "Firm up the steering?

I also found this steering shaft brace from Rock Solid on the Poly Performance site for $130





The description says...

"Heavy Duty steering box brace for 07+ Jeep JK is specifically designed to practically eliminate sector shaft play in the steering box which is a contributory cause to wandering and inferior road feel. The brace also adds an addition fixture point for the steering box to the frame reducing stress on the steering box bolts and frame where it is mounted. No drilling, welding, or addition fabrication is required due to the utilization of stock mounting holes. All required hardware is included."
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Yes it does. You'll find bigger tires, especially with heavy treads. They tend to follow the ruts more. A good SS helps with this.
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Did if "Firm up the steering?

I also found this steering shaft brace from Rock Solid on the Poly Performance site for $130

The description says...

"Heavy Duty steering box brace for 07+ Jeep JK is specifically designed to practically eliminate sector shaft play in the steering box which is a contributory cause to wandering and inferior road feel. The brace also adds an addition fixture point for the steering box to the frame reducing stress on the steering box bolts and frame where it is mounted. No drilling, welding, or addition fabrication is required due to the utilization of stock mounting holes. All required hardware is included."
This sounds like the way to go
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I don't think a brace like that will help for every day driving.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:41 PM   #8
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Subscribed, I've been thinking of changing mine out since I put 33's on. That puny, thin little stock SS just doesn't look like its up for that tire size.
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Well they are work the same to me...But if you got the money, get the Fox it would give it a way better look
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the only difference i noticed when I put my OME on was that it looked cooler.
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Just ordered the teraflex 9550 with my lift. Did it just to look cooler doubt it wil do much.
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the only difference i noticed when I put my OME on was that it looked cooler.
Plus it color matched your socks.
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Ranchos new 7000 series. Nice tight feel to the steering. Only drawback is the slight push some nitro shocks are known for.

I ran RC's duel SS for a while. Nice setup but overkill for most.
Why did you change?
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Installed the highsteer/drag link flip.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:38 PM   #15
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Hmm, I thought it was general knowledge that dual steering stabilizer were a no no, for not being needed and causing unnecessary resistance on the steering components. But again, Im constantly jumping from forum to forum, in one they eat alive you if you suggest steering shocks because they just mask steering problems, in another, they praise them. Ah well...

Though I agree on the part that the added firmness of a single one is a nice bonus. The teraflex I Run is really nice.
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I included it as an option to cover the field or stabilizers and open it up for conversation. I still haven't decided on one in particular or if I even need to upgrade the stabilizer at all.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:47 AM   #17
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Are we sure an aftermarket SS makes any difference?
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Good thread! Im curious as well. I added the OME steering stabilizer but it is very hard to say if there was a difference since it was done around the same time as my lift/tires, so EVERYTHING felt different than stock.

That said, it stands to reason that a beefier SS will work harder than the stock one.
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Are we sure an aftermarket SS makes any difference?
It does, specially if you put a gas charged one, like bilstein, it will be stiffer and may possibly slightly turn the wheel by itself on the highway, giving the impression that the car is not aligned properly. Hence why many rice shops suggest running two bilsteins together counter-acting each other. There are other normal larger ones that are just stiffer, but softer than a gas charged.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:43 PM   #21
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No it doesn't make any difference, but if the old one is beat up and you need to replace it, at least put on a decent one.. After 135,000 my original SS is worn out so I'll be changing it with whatever SS comes with the AEV flip kit..
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I think to answer the OP's question, no, a SS will not yield the results you are looking for. What will make the steering tighter and feel more in control? I couldn't tell you. But it's going to be more than a SS.
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Are we sure an aftermarket SS makes any difference?
This x10000


I drove from dallas-houston-dallas and through a few trails.....without one.
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It does, specially if you put a gas charged one, like bilstein, it will be stiffer and may possibly slightly turn the wheel by itself on the highway, giving the impression that the car is not aligned properly. Hence why many rice shops suggest running two bilsteins together counter-acting each other. There are other normal larger ones that are just stiffer, but softer than a gas charged.
I think he is asking if there is even a reason to install an aftermarket unit.
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I have 37s and I'm running w/o one. Honestly by feel, I don't even think I need one. It does look cool I guess.

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