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Old 07-12-2012, 09:27 AM   #1
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Joining a local club, need straps. Now, I know the difference between tow (static) straps and recovery/snatch (kinetic) straps so let's not get into that .

What I would like is some real world experience. What are people using? Should I buy both?

I have narrowed my kinetic strap choice down to either Viking or ARB would I need a static strap as well? Can I pull a broken rig off the trail with a kinetic or no?

Also are kinetic straps really "needed" ? Who has 1 or both types and who likes what better?



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It's actually pretty simple, but you can't have your question answered without getting into the differences and why.

A recovery strap is for pulling someone out who is stuck. A tow strap is for towing, such as someone is broken down on the trail and needs to be towed back to the trail head.

I always carry both. You should always be prepared in case you are the one stuck or broken down. This way you can make sure that the proper strap is used.

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So a recovery strap is a?

Static or Kinetic

So a tow strap is a?

Static or Kinetic
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ok makes sense, something that is stretching and moving would be used to recover = kinetic and the other is not
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yep. the stretch gives you a sling shot effect.
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i've never seen anyone not being able to be extracted from something with a tow strap...

my 0.02... i know snatch straps are nice to have... but good ones are really pricey.. and again, i've never seen one needed to be used. just limited experiences though..

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Recovery straps are also commonly referred to as "snatch" straps.
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i've never seen anyone not being able to be extracted from something with a tow strap...

my 0.02... i know snatch straps are nice to have... but good ones are really pricey.. and again, i've never seen one needed to be used. just limited experiences though..

boy that's good english... huh?!?
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Recovery straps are also commonly referred to as "snatch" straps.
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i've never seen anyone not being able to be extracted from something with a tow strap...

my 0.02... i know snatch straps are nice to have... but good ones are really pricey.. and again, i've never seen one needed to be used. just limited experiences though..

wheel more. it makes a big difference in georgia gumbo. and ive yet to come across something id rather use the snatch strap on than the winch. i love my winch
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I always carry both. You should always be prepared in case you are the one stuck or broken down. This way you can make sure that the proper strap is used.
Precisely what I was thinking. I will pick up one of each then. Any ones in particular that you could suggest dag?
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wheel more. it makes a big difference in georgia gumbo. and ive yet to come across something id rather use the snatch strap on than the winch. i love my winch
fair enough... i bet the georgia clay can be tough. florida sand and swamps are tricky too. no winch for me.. down the road maybe...
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Precisely what I was thinking. I will pick up one of each then. Any ones in particular that you could suggest dag?
You can't go wrong with the ARB recovery strap, but I have heard good things about the Bubba Rope as well.

Get the highest rated tow strap you can find and make sure that it has loops and not hooks. Hooks can become deadly projectiles. It also doesn't hurt to have a set of D rings as well.
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and ive yet to come across something id rather use the snatch strap on than the winch. i love my winch
no winch for me yet, its on the short list though. I feel like Jeeps are like the "if you give a mouse a cookie" book.

if your not familiar with it, google it

if i get a winch, i need a winch plate, mine as well get a new bumper with a winch plate, new bumper + winch makes my front sag, guess ill lift it, now my tires look to small with my new lift, guess ill get bigger tires, now i need a new tire carrier for my large spare, mine as well get a bumper/carrier combo...and so on and so on
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i've never seen anyone not being able to be extracted from something with a tow strap...

my 0.02... i know snatch straps are nice to have... but good ones are really pricey.. and again, i've never seen one needed to be used. just limited experiences though..

A tow strap will work, but the recovery strap is gooder.

When you yank with a tow strap it is harder on the strap itself and your tow points. The recovery strap aids in the extraction with the force of the kinetic energy.
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You can't go wrong with the ARB recovery strap, but I have heard good things about the Bubba Rope as well.

Get the highest rated tow strap you can find and make sure that it has loops and not hooks. Hooks can become deadly projectiles. It also doesn't hurt to have a set of D rings as well.
so a 30k to strap will do? i have heard good things about bubba as well, pretty expensive though.

now, while i agree with the "find the highest rated tow strap" comment, i have heard that with snatch/recovery straps if they are rated too high, they wont stretch properly. is the 17600 lb enough for us or should i go the 24k route?
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A tow strap will work, but the recovery strap is gooder.

When you yank with a tow strap it is harder on the strap itself and your tow points. The recovery strap aids in the extraction with the force of the kinetic energy.
that makes sense. i have seen hop from yanking a stuck rig. perhaps i should invest in one...

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so a 30k to strap will do? i have heard good things about bubba as well, pretty expensive though.

now, while i agree with the "find the highest rated tow strap" comment, i have heard that with snatch/recovery straps if they are rated too high, they wont stretch properly. is the 17600 lb enough for us or should i go the 24k route?
I can't remember which rating I have. I'm pretty sure it's the orange one.
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so a 30k to strap will do? i have heard good things about bubba as well, pretty expensive though.

now, while i agree with the "find the highest rated tow strap" comment, i have heard that with snatch/recovery straps if they are rated too high, they wont stretch properly. is the 17600 lb enough for us or should i go the 24k route?
Yes, you get into the difference between static versus dynamic loading. For a tiny example, the stuff commonly called "Paracord" or 550-cord has a static load rating of...wait for it...550 lbs. It's dynamic load rating is 168 lbs if I remember correctly. If you're trying to recover or tow a vehicle you can rely on our old Newtonian favorite: F=ma. When you "snatch" a stuck truck, your own Jeep is moving...you're essentially trying to accelerate the stuck vehicle from zero to part of your own speed instantaneously (momentum being conserved and all that jazz). The resulting load is going to be considerable! What a snatch strap does is the same thing a climbing rope does when it catches you - it deforms elastically in order to lower the peak acceleration and peak magnitude of the load experienced. If you "snatch" with a tow strap, things are still going to deform...the difference is, it won't be the strap. This is how things break. The peak load is now higher and, until the strap breaks, it will be transferred to your D-rings, clevis pins, tow hooks, frame, and what not.

The point of all that? A snatch strap is a bit like a spring. If you get one that is too stiff, it is going to resist deformation and transfer proportionally more load to your vehicle and gear and act more like a tow strap in practical application.
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I would highly recommend the Bubba Rope. Also, they are made here in the USA, not overseas.
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I would highly recommend the Bubba Rope. Also, they are made here in the USA, not overseas.
i try to buy "made in the USA" wherever and whenever i can. Viking are also made in the USA. which is why i was leaning towards that one over the arb.

does anyone know any tow straps (static) that are made in the US?
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I have my winch and the Rugged Ridge recovery kit. Comes with tree saver, gloves, cable dampener, snatch block, tow strap, and extra d rings.

I am thinking of getting a recovery strap and a stronger tow strap.

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now, although i'm not too new to jeeps, i am rather new to recovery...what on earth does a snatch block do?
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It is a pulley that allows you to change the angle of the winch line if you can't do a straight on pull and can nearly double the winch's pull capacity.

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no winch for me yet, its on the short list though. I feel like Jeeps are like the "if you give a mouse a cookie" book.

if your not familiar with it, google it

if i get a winch, i need a winch plate, mine as well get a new bumper with a winch plate, new bumper + winch makes my front sag, guess ill lift it, now my tires look to small with my new lift, guess ill get bigger tires, now i need a new tire carrier for my large spare, mine as well get a bumper/carrier combo...and so on and so on
i picked up my winch, bumper and mount plate for just under 500 bucks. and it didnt sag the front.
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i picked up my winch, bumper and mount plate for just under 500 bucks. and it didnt sag the front.
Oh ya lee? What did you get
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no winch for me yet, its on the short list though. I feel like Jeeps are like the "if you give a mouse a cookie" book.

if your not familiar with it, google it
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