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Old 04-22-2013, 11:18 AM   #1
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Lift Build Research - Shock Question

Planning out my next build to allow me to run 35s. As part of my research, I'm seeing what things I can do now in preparation so that I don't have to spend the money all at once.

For starters, I'm going to get a new rear bumper with a tire carrier as I know it's not a good idea to mount a 35 to the rear gate (will also get a new front bumper cuz, hey, ya gotta match )

Today I started looking at shocks and have a few questions regarding Billsteins:
1) The 5100 series can be used on any lift that is 1.5 -3 inches. I'm running a leveling kit now so technically my rear only has a inch of lift. Would running these shocks not work as the bottom threshold is stated to be 1.5 inches?
2) Whatever lift I go with, I want to be able to fully flex on the 35s with no rub. I'm running flat flares now. I believe other posts show that 3 inches in lift is what I need. Can someone confirm? On a related note, do most lifts take out the rake (which is what I want)? So, for example, would a 3" lift be 3 in the rear and more in the front? I'm just trying to see if I can get new shocks that will work for what I have now, and can also be used when I go up to a new lift and 35s.
3) Called Billstein and they recommended the 5160 series. Same as the 5100s except they have a reservoir. I admit they look cool, but they are way more expensive than the 5100s. Is there any special reason I'd want the 5160s over the 5100s?

thanks in advance.

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Old 04-22-2013, 12:40 PM   #2
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Brian,

Maybe we can help!!!

Yes, you can run the 5100's on your leveling kit. No worries there.

What lift are you going to run? I would wait till you know that for certain because, even though it will most likley be a 2.5", some of the 2.5"s we do, we run a longer shock on it. So, you dont want to limit yourself there. So, lets figure out the lift first...

And the 5160's are cool! BUT, 85% of guys running the remote res shocks, dont use them for or use them for what they are designed for! The remote res fuction is designed to keep the shock fluid cool when the suspension cycles fast for a long period of time. Like anything else, the fluid in the shock will heat up and will change the damping factor of the shock. The remote res portion of the shocks help prevent that. Basically, if your not doing high speed offroad runs, you will never see the benifit of spending the extra cash...

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Maybe we can help!!!

Yes, you can run the 5100's on your leveling kit. No worries there.

What lift are you going to run? I would wait till you know that for certain because, even though it will most likley be a 2.5", some of the 2.5"s we do, we run a longer shock on it. So, you dont want to limit yourself there. So, lets figure out the lift first...

And the 5160's are cool! BUT, 85% of guys running the remote res shocks, dont use them for or use them for what they are designed for! The remote res fuction is designed to keep the shock fluid cool when the suspension cycles fast for a long period of time. Like anything else, the fluid in the shock will heat up and will change the damping factor of the shock. The remote res portion of the shocks help prevent that. Basically, if your not doing high speed offroad runs, you will never see the benifit of spending the extra cash...

If we can help, please let us know! We love to talk lifts...

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Sweet! I had always wondered what those were for! Answer one of my questions without even having to post a new thread! Thanks Again!
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Thanks Jason. Great info.

I figured that would be the answer on the 5160s. I can't blame the rep for trying to upsell me. LOL

I'm open to talking lifts. Don't have the cash handy yet, but that's never stopped me from planning. Still trying to figure out what size life I want, along w/ whether or not I want/need "regular", short arm, or long arm.
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Hey KJ. I know, I know.....been absent for a while....was "satisfied" w/ my Jeep for a bit, so I lost the bug and quit frequenting the forums.

My dad is considering buying my wheels and tires, so I'm planning out my 35s build in the event he takes the bait.

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Me ok. the jeep is a money pit. Dealing with issues I can't even explain. I need to get it on a alignment rack just been so busy at work.
Seriously considering a DD So I can use the jeep as a toy and not have to worry as much about everything.
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Me ok. the jeep is a money pit. Dealing with issues I can't even explain. I need to get it on a alignment rack just been so busy at work.
Seriously considering a DD So I can use the jeep as a toy and not have to worry as much about everything.
I hear ya brother.

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Sweet! I had always wondered what those were for! Answer one of my questions without even having to post a new thread! Thanks Again!
Awesome! I like when that happens! If you have any questions about lifts, feel free to PM or email me as well!

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Thanks Jason. Great info.

I figured that would be the answer on the 5160s. I can't blame the rep for trying to upsell me. LOL

I'm open to talking lifts. Don't have the cash handy yet, but that's never stopped me from planning. Still trying to figure out what size life I want, along w/ whether or not I want/need "regular", short arm, or long arm.
Yes, next step is figuring out what lift. Long Arms are GREAT on a JK but a ton of money. The JK is actually more along the terms of a "short" arm especially in the JKU's. So, the "Short" arm JK lifts are not bad at all!

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Me ok. the jeep is a money pit. Dealing with issues I can't even explain. I need to get it on a alignment rack just been so busy at work.
Seriously considering a DD So I can use the jeep as a toy and not have to worry as much about everything.
LOL it is always something with your JK! I know where you can get a SWEET almost new 2dr JK and it could be your DD and trail rig!

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I hear ya brother.

Hang on, when did you become a forum moderator? Man, they're setting the bar pretty HIGH now.
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Good grief. And the abuse of power begins. This is how it starts....the small things.

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