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Old 12-19-2011, 01:39 PM   #1
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lift kit help

hey guys, i'm new to offroading and this forum, i want to lift my jeep about 1.75-2.00" for the few times a year i will be going off roading, i don't want to break the bank or lift it anything higher than that because its my daily driver and i drive 50 miles a day round trip. any help on what i should look at buying would be great. thanks!

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What size tires do you want to run? also, what engine and transmission do you have, this will help decide

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Budget lift take your pick
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Shocks are what count and then it is up to u for ride comfort
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hey guys, i'm new to offroading and this forum, i want to lift my jeep about 1.75-2.00" for the few times a year i will be going off roading, i don't want to break the bank or lift it anything higher than that because its my daily driver and i drive 50 miles a day round trip. any help on what i should look at buying would be great. thanks!
Since you're driving a 2008, I'd recommend looking for a set of Rubicon springs for your Jeep, and running 33" Duratracs (since you live in upstate NY...DuraTracs rock in the snow, and come siped).

You want the Rubi takeoffs to be 19's (front) and 60's (rear). If you look at the top of your current springs, you'll see a tag that tells you what stiffness they are. Last two #'s in the sequence are the spring stiffness. If they are, for example, 14's up front and 54's in the rear, you'll get a lot of bang for your buck outta the 19/60 Rubis.

Depending on your current setup, the Rubi springs will net you 1-2" all by themselves. On top of that, add a leveling kit to fix the natural rake of your Jeep, and you'll be right around the 2" you want, and still be able to eat a filet mignon for dinner at a nice restaurant.

For the DuraTracs, you can run 33's with your stock rims (I'm assuming you have the 16" rims), or you can downsize to 15" rims and buy the tires more cheaply. (If you do decide to go with 15's, check to make sure they'll fit over the stock brake calipers...some don't.)

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Since you're driving a 2008, I'd recommend looking for a set of Rubicon springs for your Jeep, and running 33" Duratracs (since you live in upstate NY...DuraTracs rock in the snow, and come siped).

You want the Rubi takeoffs to be 19's (front) and 60's (rear). If you look at the top of your current springs, you'll see a tag that tells you what stiffness they are. Last two #'s in the sequence are the spring stiffness. If they are, for example, 14's up front and 54's in the rear, you'll get a lot of bang for your buck outta the 19/60 Rubis.

Depending on your current setup, the Rubi springs will net you 1-2" all by themselves. On top of that, add a leveling kit to fix the natural rake of your Jeep, and you'll be right around the 2" you want, and still be able to eat a filet mignon for dinner at a nice restaurant.

For the DuraTracs, you can run 33's with your stock rims (I'm assuming you have the 16" rims), or you can downsize to 15" rims and buy the tires more cheaply. (If you do decide to go with 15's, check to make sure they'll fit over the stock brake calipers...some don't.)

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What are your plans for off roading with the Jeep? You don't need a lift to take a wrangler off road by any means.
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Since you're driving a 2008, I'd recommend looking for a set of Rubicon springs for your Jeep, and running 33" Duratracs (since you live in upstate NY...DuraTracs rock in the snow, and come siped).

You want the Rubi takeoffs to be 19's (front) and 60's (rear). If you look at the top of your current springs, you'll see a tag that tells you what stiffness they are. Last two #'s in the sequence are the spring stiffness. If they are, for example, 14's up front and 54's in the rear, you'll get a lot of bang for your buck outta the 19/60 Rubis.

Depending on your current setup, the Rubi springs will net you 1-2" all by themselves. On top of that, add a leveling kit to fix the natural rake of your Jeep, and you'll be right around the 2" you want, and still be able to eat a filet mignon for dinner at a nice restaurant.

For the DuraTracs, you can run 33's with your stock rims (I'm assuming you have the 16" rims), or you can downsize to 15" rims and buy the tires more cheaply. (If you do decide to go with 15's, check to make sure they'll fit over the stock brake calipers...some don't.)

Good luck with it!

I'm getting my 2012 JKU Sahara soon and was thinking about doing this. I was on the Mopar eStore and they have Rubicon springs but there a few different ones at different prices. I'm assuming I should probably order the most expensive right? Also, could I just swap spring for spring or is there anything else that needs to be changed (without including the leveling kit)?
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I'm getting my 2012 JKU Sahara soon and was thinking about doing this. I was on the Mopar eStore and they have Rubicon springs but there a few different ones at different prices. I'm assuming I should probably order the most expensive right? Also, could I just swap spring for spring or is there anything else that needs to be changed (without including the leveling kit)?
I'm not familiar with the Mopar eStore. Do individuals sell stuff on it or is it all sold by Mopar? Price shouldn't be a factor...you want front springs rated at 19; rear ones rated at 60. If they're in good shape, that's all you need. You just change out the springs...

When you get your Sahara, crawl under it and look at the tag at the top of your springs. You'll see something like A3459216C. The last two numbers (in this case 16, which is what my JKU had) is your spring strength. Mine on the rear were 58's. With those springs, adding the Rubi take-offs would probably only given me about an extra inch, I think.

As I said in my post to the OP, if you then add a leveling kit to that, you'll end up with around 2+ inches of lift. It's cheap, it won't significantly alter your ride and steering geometry, and a goldfish could install it, if it was a smart goldfish with thumbs.
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I'm not familiar with the Mopar eStore. Do individuals sell stuff on it or is it all sold by Mopar? Price shouldn't be a factor...you want front springs rated at 19; rear ones rated at 60. If they're in good shape, that's all you need. You just change out the springs...

When you get your Sahara, crawl under it and look at the tag at the top of your springs. You'll see something like A3459216C. The last two numbers (in this case 16, which is what my JKU had) is your spring strength. Mine on the rear were 58's. With those springs, adding the Rubi take-offs would probably only given me about an extra inch, I think.

As I said in my post to the OP, if you then add a leveling kit to that, you'll end up with around 2+ inches of lift. It's cheap, it won't significantly alter your ride and steering geometry, and a goldfish could install it, if it was a smart goldfish with thumbs.
Thanks for the info! If I add these springs and level it out think they'd hold up to throwing a winch on front or will I need something stronger?
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Thanks for the info! If I add these springs and level it out think they'd hold up to throwing a winch on front or will I need something stronger?
A winch on the stock bumper, or a winch and a whole new, heavy-ass aftermarket bumper?

The leveling kit will hold up either way. If you go aftermarket bumper and winch you might lose 1/2-3/4 of an inch from the springs, depending on whether you buy a moderately heavy bumper or a really heavy one.
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A winch on the stock bumper, or a winch and a whole new, heavy-ass aftermarket bumper?

The leveling kit will hold up either way. If you go aftermarket bumper and winch you might lose 1/2-3/4 of an inch from the springs, depending on whether you buy a moderately heavy bumper or a really heavy one.
I was just going to grab a winch plate for the stock bumper.

I've also been looking at keeping the stock springs and grabbing a cheap teraflex leveling kit but from what I've been reading this really isn't the way to go.

If I grabbed rubi springs, the cheap leveling kit, winch plate and winch what the hell would that look like?

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I was just going to grab a winch plate for the stock bumper.

I've also been looking at keeping the stock springs and grabbing a cheap teraflex leveling kit but from what I've been reading this really isn't the way to go.

If I grabbed rubi springs, the cheap leveling kit, winch plate and winch what the hell would that look like?


Whoa, hold the phone...

Are you just wanting about 2" of lift, but plan on keeping the stock tires? I was kinda assuming you were looking at bigger tires, as well.

If you're planning on keeping the stockers, I'd go leveling kit only, and look into the Rubi take-offs if you decide to get 33's or something down the road. 2" or more of lift with the stock tires will make them look kinda tiny, IMO.

It's up to you.

If you're just talking about a winch on a stock bumper, you're good either way. A winch weighs around 85 lbs (with wire cable), so it's not gonna affect your Jeep that much.

Have you looked into some of the stubby kits for the stock front bumper? kjeeper10 just put one on his Jeep...looks damn good, I think.
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Whoa, hold the phone...

Are you just wanting about 2" of lift, but plan on keeping the stock tires? I was kinda assuming you were looking at bigger tires, as well.

If you're planning on keeping the stockers, I'd go leveling kit only, and look into the Rubi take-offs if you decide to get 33's or something down the road. 2" or more of lift with the stock tires will make them look kinda tiny, IMO.

It's up to you.

If you're just talking about a winch on a stock bumper, you're good either way. A winch weighs around 85 lbs (with wire cable), so it's not gonna affect your Jeep that much.

Have you looked into some of the stubby kits for the stock front bumper? kjeeper10 just put one on his Jeep...looks damn good, I think.
I'm planning on keeping the stock tires. I have actually looked at the stubby kits for the stock bumper and was thinking about doing that. Really at this point I just want to throw a winch on the front and I've seen others say that between the winch plate and winch I'd get a little sag. Ths is why I was starting to look into a leveling kit or higher rated springs but wasn't sure how much lift or what springs I'd need.

What leveling kit would you recommend?

If it isn't obvious I'm new to this...
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I'm planning on keeping the stock tires. I have actually looked at the stubby kits for the stock bumper and was thinking about doing that. Really at this point I just want to throw a winch on the front and I've seen others say that between the winch plate and winch I'd get a little sag. Ths is why I was starting to look into a leveling kit or higher rated springs but wasn't sure how much lift or what springs I'd need.

What leveling kit would you recommend?

If it isn't obvious I'm new to this...
Gluestick is going with the TF leveling kit on his JKUX.
I will be installing the TF coil lift.
He has decent rear springs but low rated fronts.
I'm going to give him my 19's. That should set him up pretty good if he decides on a winch.

I would def keep an eye out for some good
fronts and kill 2 birds with one stone
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Gluestick is going with the TF leveling kit on his JKUX.
I will be installing the TF coil lift.
He has decent rear springs but low rated fronts.
I'm going to give him my 19's. That should set him up pretty good if he decides on a winch.

I would def keep an eye out for some good
fronts and kill 2 birds with one stone
What's your opinion, jkeep, about what knobdy wants to do? You think the +/– 2" from Rubi take-offs, plus the leveling kit would look goofy with stock tires (he's gonna add a winch)? Not sure I've seen any Jeeps like that recently.
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What's your opinion, jkeep, about what knobdy wants to do? You think the +/– 2" from Rubi take-offs, plus the leveling kit would look goofy with stock tires (he's gonna add a winch)? Not sure I've seen any Jeeps like that recently.
Im trying to picture my jeep with the 19's and 2" from the leveling kit ??

Without a winch/bumper weighing it down some. And with Sahara street tires my look
odd.

I think the HD spring idea should be scrapped.

I would add the winch first and see what happens-if anything at all.
Knobdy... U plan on bigger tires at some point ?
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Im trying to picture my jeep with the 19's and 2" from the leveling kit ??

Without a winch/bumper weighing it down some. And with Sahara street tires my look
odd.

I think the HD spring idea should be scrapped.

I would add the winch first and see what happens-if anything at all.
Knobdy... U plan on bigger tires at some point ?
I honestly don't know.. I figured I'd drive on the stock ones through the winter and see if I like them. Then I'd make some decisions. I've been checking out some other threads with various tire configurations and I am starting to like a 15" rim/33" tire combo but can't justify putting money into tires when mine will be brand spanking new.
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I honestly don't know.. I figured I'd drive on the stock ones through the winter and see if I like them. Then I'd make some decisions. I've been checking out some other threads with various tire configurations and I am starting to like a 15" rim/33" tire combo but can't justify putting money into tires when mine will be brand spanking new.
I'd just go with the leveling kit and the winch for now. Good thing about the Rubi take-offs, they'll always be there, and will still be cheap. In the spring, or whenever your stock tires bite the dust, you can go for the rubi springs if you decide to get the 33's.
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I'd just go with the leveling kit and the winch for now. Good thing about the Rubi take-offs, they'll always be there, and will still be cheap. In the spring, or whenever your stock tires bite the dust, you can go for the rubi springs if you decide to get the 33's.
Thanks for the info guys. Seriously, this is the best forum around!
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I honestly don't know.. I figured I'd drive on the stock ones through the winter and see if I like them. Then I'd make some decisions. I've been checking out some other threads with various tire configurations and I am starting to like a 15" rim/33" tire combo but can't justify putting money into tires when mine will be brand spanking new.

Once you get those stock wheels/tires off you will be kicking yourself for not doing it sooner. I leased Sahara and went 2 years with the stock wheels and rims till they were getting worn before the 3rd winter. Looking ahead on buying my next one I got some 16" steel wheels with BFG TA KOs for the winter and what a difference. So much so I never even put a mile on the tires from my new one, had them put the ones I bought on at the dealership and sold the stock ones.
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I honestly don't know.. I figured I'd drive on the stock ones through the winter and see if I like them. Then I'd make some decisions. I've been checking out some other threads with various tire configurations and I am starting to like a 15" rim/33" tire combo but can't justify putting money into tires when mine will be brand spanking new.
Sell them before you put miles on the tires

Might grab $400-$500

Remember, not everybody does their homework

Grab the combo mentioned and your golden.
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Sell them before you put miles on the tires

Might grab $400-$500

Remember, not everybody does their homework

Grab the combo mentioned and your golden.
I went to pick my stock wheels up today with a U-Haul van. On a whim, I decided to drive several blocks to my dealership. They cut me a check for $500 on the spot...around 400 miles on the wheels.

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I went to pick my stock wheels up today with a U-Haul van. On a whim, I decided to drive several blocks to my dealership. They cut me a check for $500 on the spot...around 400 miles on the wheels.

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I went to pick my stock wheels up today with a U-Haul van. On a whim, I decided to drive several blocks to my dealership. They cut me a check for $500 on the spot...around 400 miles on the wheels.

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That is friggin awesome! Maybe I can talk the wife into letting me grab some new wheels.....
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thanks for all the responses...i don't plan on doing any heavy duty off roading, there's a place that we go in WNY some small hills and mostly mud i want to run 32" tires, i'm riding on the stock 17" rims with the stock wheels right now. my jeep is manual as well.

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