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Old 11-12-2011, 06:29 PM   #1
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Lift Kit Question

Hey Guys, I'm new to the forum here and wanted some feedback on a lift kit I have narrowed my search down to. I just traded my '08 unlimited on a 2012 sport and will be adding the lift kit,tires and wheels shortly. Here is the lift kit I have found Jeep JK Suspension Lift. Anyone else chosen this lift kit and if so how has it preformed? Is there any changes in the 2012 that would make this one a problem to install? Are there any other lift kit recommendations? This is mostly gonna be for looks, however we may do a little off roading in it. Any feedback would be a great help. Thanks, Bryan

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is it a 2 door or 4 door jeep that you have recently got? for the 2 door, 2.5'' is the max without new drive shafts, for the 4 doors it's 3.5'', and I also know that with the new engine in the 2012, if you had 4.10's(I know, it's a sport so you wont have 4.10's, either 3.21 or 3.73) you wouldnt have to rear gear for 35's, but the 2.5'' lift is all you need if you dont off road much, it gives you 8'' of up travel from what I hear, 12'' if you get flats. I'm personally going to get a 2'' lift from Old man emu with the heavy duty coils for hauling and get flats for a 2012 rubi 2 door and run 34's on a 15'' rim, then those 4.10s would work really good for me.

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is it a 2 door or 4 door jeep that you have recently got? for the 2 door, 2.5'' is the max without new drive shafts, for the 4 doors it's 3.5''
I agree 50%. The front DS is the same on a JK and JKU. My JK is lifted about 5" and I have an aftermarket front DS and stock rear. It's an 08 lifted in December 07 with 30K miles (yeah that's low I only use the JK for wheeling mostly). I know I should get a rear and I've been waiting for it to fail but it's still working


To the OP, on 2012s the exhaust kinda gets in the way of the front DS on 3" lifts and you need a Y pipe. aFe make one, google aFe JK Y pipe. There are 100s of JK lift kit threads on the web, I suggest you read up before you hit commit on any web site.
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Your profile says you're a girl from Texas. You have some sort of affiliation with Texas Tech. But you signed your post as Bryan.

Deliberately enigmatic?

What size tire/wheel combo are you planning to run? Is your '12 a 2-door or 4-door? When you say you might do "a little off roading in it," how much is a little, and how intense would that little bit be?

Personally, if I'm gonna invest $1-2K in tires and wheels, I'd want my lift to be a little more complete than the one you've got in your post. 2.5" is right at the edge of getting expensive (new drive shafts, adjustable trackbar, control arms, etc.) The one you've picked seems a little lacking to me.

You'll find that, when modding a Jeep, the lame adage "you get what you pay for" is disgustingly true.

This link should give you a better understanding of lifts in general:

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Just my opinion here, but I would choose a solid 2" lift over a inexpensive 2.5" lift... one way or the other, you'll pay for it in the long run. Either up front, or later on...
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Once you go over a 2.5" lift, you are getting into the neighborhood of other mods that you may not want to invest in due to cost. I chose the Rock Krawler 2.5" Stock Mod lift with progressive front coils and Bilstein 5100 shocks, and will need nothing else. It's more expensive than the one you've chosen by roughly $450, but the reviews are stellar and you can bet you are getting quality gear.
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:39 AM   #7
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Thanks all! I'll check out that link.
And yes this is my wife's log in and it's her jeep, but I'm the one having to figure out lifts, wheels, and tires!
@kbwwolf...Affiliation with Texas Tech...she's an alum.
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Thanks all! I'll check out that link.
And yes this is my wife's log in and it's her jeep, but I'm the one having to figure out lifts, wheels, and tires!
@kbwwolf...Affiliation with Texas Tech...she's an alum.
Thanks, Bryan
Hope she'll let you drive it! Bottom line, it's going to cost you at least $4K for a proper lift and wheels/tire, I know folks will say that you can mod for less, but once you start cyber shopping you'll see what I mean
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Yeah we pretty much suspected it would run that much. Here is a link to the new jeep itself. It is a dealer trade so this is the trading dealer's inventory. You can pull up the sticker and tell exactly what equipment is on it. Here is what we have pick out thus far:
Jeep-http://www.bluebonnetmotors.net/new/Jeep/2012-Jeep-Wrangler-1dc1db650a0a000201c8a90dce45c0aa.htm

Tires-Here is pic of the tires. Our tire size will be 35/12.5/18 Nitto Trail Grappler Mt Tires 35/12.50r20 121/q E Load Bsw

Wheels-http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=wheelCloseUp&wheelMake= KMC+XD+Series&wheelModel=Addict&wheelFinish=Black+ Painted&partnum=XD79879068712NB
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Thanks all! I'll check out that link.
And yes this is my wife's log in and it's her jeep, but I'm the one having to figure out lifts, wheels, and tires!
@kbwwolf...Affiliation with Texas Tech...she's an alum.
Thanks, Bryan
I wasn't crackin' on you. Just wondered. I've shot a few games in Lubbock, but never really had the chance to explore.

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Yeah we pretty much suspected it would run that much. Here is a link to the new jeep itself. It is a dealer trade so this is the trading dealer's inventory. You can pull up the sticker and tell exactly what equipment is on it. Here is what we have pick out thus far:
Jeep-http://www.bluebonnetmotors.net/new/Jeep/2012-Jeep-Wrangler-1dc1db650a0a000201c8a90dce45c0aa.htm

Tires-Here is pic of the tires. Our tire size will be 35/12.5/18 Nitto Trail Grappler Mt Tires 35/12.50r20 121/q E Load Bsw

Wheels-http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=wheelCloseUp&wheelMake= KMC+XD+Series&wheelModel=Addict&wheelFinish=Black+ Painted&partnum=XD79879068712NB
If you're going with 35's, prepare to spend some $$. You can reduce the cost significantly by going with smaller rims (16's or 15's) and tires. Also be aware that running 35's will significantly reduce your Jeep's power, and a gear change may be in order later on. $4K estimate might be a little low.
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Here's the lift kit per CV2065's suggestion- Rock Krawler Suspension RKJK25SM - Rock Krawler Stock Mod 2.5" System for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

Shocks- Bilstein 24-146708 - BILSTEIN Front 5100 Series Gas Shock Absorber for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2-3.5" Lift - Quadratec

What do you think Guys. Will this go together pretty well. To answer the question on our off-roading...She will be doing just fairly gentle stuff. We have a lease that is not too radical and I suppose it will be the only place it goes offroad.
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Here's the lift kit per CV2065's suggestion- Rock Krawler Suspension RKJK25SM - Rock Krawler Stock Mod 2.5" System for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

Shocks- Bilstein 24-146708 - BILSTEIN Front 5100 Series Gas Shock Absorber for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2-3.5" Lift - Quadratec

What do you think Guys. Will this go together pretty well. To answer the question on our off-roading...She will be doing just fairly gentle stuff. We have a lease that is not too radical and I suppose it will be the only place it goes offroad.
lift, wheels, tires are good but you should consider 17" instead of 18", that may be one of the only wheels size ops that universal around here
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Will the 18's cause some issues or is it a cost thing? We have a buddy that works at a local tire dealer here, and told him to order the tires and wheels on Monday. We can tell him to hold up if we need to. They are the only things we have ordered thus far, so I just wanna make sure we haven't made a mistake with the 18's. Again thanks for all the help folks.
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Will the 18's cause some issues or is it a cost thing? We have a buddy that works at a local tire dealer here, and told him to order the tires and wheels on Monday. We can tell him to hold up if we need to. They are the only things we have ordered thus far, so I just wanna make sure we haven't made a mistake with the 18's. Again thanks for all the help folks.
It's mostly a cost and availability thing for 18", lots of folks go to 16", I've never seen a post where someone's want 18"s, as a sidebar if you were selling Sahara 18" take off you probably get a few hundred dollars less than Rubi 17"
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Here's the lift kit per CV2065's suggestion- Rock Krawler Suspension RKJK25SM - Rock Krawler Stock Mod 2.5" System for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

Shocks- Bilstein 24-146708 - BILSTEIN Front 5100 Series Gas Shock Absorber for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2-3.5" Lift - Quadratec

What do you think Guys. Will this go together pretty well. To answer the question on our off-roading...She will be doing just fairly gentle stuff. We have a lease that is not too radical and I suppose it will be the only place it goes offroad.
The '12's have an exhaust crossover issue...if those Bilstein shocks are 27.5" or over you will need to address it, or you're liable to bust up parts on the undercarriage of your Jeep.

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Will the 18's cause some issues or is it a cost thing? We have a buddy that works at a local tire dealer here, and told him to order the tires and wheels on Monday. We can tell him to hold up if we need to. They are the only things we have ordered thus far, so I just wanna make sure we haven't made a mistake with the 18's. Again thanks for all the help folks.
My advice: Don't buy 18's. Don't buy 17's. You'll get more bang for your buck buying 16's or 15's. Lighter (better gas mileage, though w/a Wrangler it'll be somewhat laughable), cheaper (no laughing matter), bigger contact patch, etc. Did I mention cheaper? Especially when it comes time to replace the tires...
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One other thing: Use the WF search field liberally. There are dozens of threads, often based on Jeep color (very skittles-like), that have pictures of both modded and stock Jeeps. Great resource for seeing what others have done...you'll undoubtedly find some form of combo that appeals.

Select Advanced Search, type your request into the search field, then select the JK Jeep portion to keep it pertinent to your needs. Also, look in the Pictures part of the forum, the Tires and Wheels, etc.

Use the Sticky's at the top of the JK Jeep page, as well. Great info.

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It's mostly a cost and availability thing for 18", lots of folks go to 16", I've never seen a post where someone's want 18"s, as a sidebar if you were selling Sahara 18" take off you probably get a few hundred dollars less than Rubi 17"
^^^^ This. Check w/local dealership, or go CL or the WF "for sale" section. Look thru classifieds to see what others have gotten for a successful sale.
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I looked at 15's, 16's and 17's. The 15's and 16's just seemed visually too small for me. Aside from cost, I didn't see much benefit unless you were a serious off roader. I also looked at 17's, and there really wasn't much difference between it and the 18's in price, except for maybe $40/$50 per tire. So I found myself back at the 18's, and really like the larger stance of the wheel. So I settled on Nitto Trail Grapplers at 295/70/18. Should work like a champ.
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I looked at 15's, 16's and 17's. The 15's and 16's just seemed visually too small for me. Aside from cost, I didn't see much benefit unless you were a serious off roader. I also looked at 17's, and there really wasn't much difference between it and the 18's in price, except for maybe $40/$50 per tire. So I found myself back at the 18's, and really like the larger stance of the wheel. So I settled on Nitto Trail Grapplers at 295/70/18. Should work like a champ.
Only $40-$50 a tire? X 5 that's $250. That's almost a monthly payment.

Less rubber harsher the ride. 15" for me come time. Also consider -unsprung weight will kill performance. That's why a few have gone to a 15 rim with a lighter duratrac tire. I believe the weight for a 33x15 is lighter than stock.

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