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Old 04-15-2012, 08:45 AM   #1
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Like an idiot, I took off my hardtop before knowing how to put the soft top on

I have a 2012 4-door Sahara and I am unbelievably frustrated with the fact that there are no instructions whatsoever on how to attach the soft top. Plenty of instructions on how to raise and lower it, but nothing on how to attach it.

Am I missing something in the manual? I don't even think I have the hardware/screws to attach the soft top in the back.

Is the assumption that we are going to to take it to the dealer to do this?

I can't believe I didn't make sure I had all the info before I took off the hard top and I can't believe I might have to put it back on!

Help!

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Download the owner's manual from the owner tab on the website:

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Good Luck! The first time through is not always the easiest. Take your time and be patient.

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I have the owners manual, but I literally can not find any instructions on how to attach it the first time. All I can find is how to raise/lower it.

I also did not seem to have any screws in my softtop bundle to attach the rods in the back.
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heres one of dozens to pick from.. hope this helps!
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heres one of dozens to pick from.. hope this helps!
This, like all of the other youtube videos, doesn't show how to actually attach the soft top to the vehicle.

I think I am slowly realizing that there are four "pivot screws" that I don't think I have.....
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heres one of dozens to pick from.. hope this helps!
The OP doesn't even have the soft top attached yet, but this video would help once he does. I'm not of much help as mine came with just the soft top.
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Look for the attachment screws where they attach on the rear bars.
They are under a flap that closes with Velcro.
That is where the dealer put mine when they removed the top prior to delivery.
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This, like all of the other youtube videos, doesn't show how to actually attach the soft top to the vehicle.

I think I am slowly realizing that there are four "pivot screws" that I don't think I have.....
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Here is a pic of the driver side JKU with the top up. Let me know if you need me to take the top down and snap a pic or two.

Guess I was lucky. When I picked mine up the soft top was already full attached. I just remove my hardtop and the softtop went right up.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:33 AM   #11
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This is exactly something I would do. I hope you get it on right...I'm sure plenty of people here have done it.
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I also was frustrated and disappointed in the lack of info. I figured it out, but it was thru Internet searches, trial and error vs finding some specific step by step instructions.

If I recall correctly the best top softop instructions were sort of helpful.

I have the same model. Assuming you had the dual top group like me an your softop is already attached to the frame you should have received 3 or 4 boxes with your windows and the frame pieces in it. you'll need to locate six big screwbolts, plastic side pillar pieces for behind the rear doors and some top framing pieces. There are holes in your roll cage where you will need to put the bolts and the plastic frame pieces. I can try and take some pics when I get home.
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I have the owners manual, but I literally can not find any instructions on how to attach it the first time. All I can find is how to raise/lower it. ...
You likely don't actually have the "Owner's Manual," but instead have the itty bitty 112-page "User Guide" that came with the vehicle. If you download the 611-page "2012 Owner's Manual" and look on page 177--"Installing The Soft Top," which begins with "NOTE: The following procedures are for first time set up only. For future soft top procedures, refer to 'Soft Top' in this section."

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dow...ly-115433.html
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I have a 2012 4-door Sahara and I am unbelievably frustrated with the fact that there are no instructions whatsoever on how to attach the soft top. Plenty of instructions on how to raise and lower it, but nothing on how to attach it.

Am I missing something in the manual? I don't even think I have the hardware/screws to attach the soft top in the back.

Is the assumption that we are going to to take it to the dealer to do this?

I can't believe I didn't make sure I had all the info before I took off the hard top and I can't believe I might have to put it back on!

Help!
Try this thread.
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Bestop 54722-35 - Bestop® Supertop® NX Soft Top with Tinted Windows without Doors for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec This is the link for Bestops soft top. It is the same as the OEM top. If you click the "fitment tab" you will find a link to the installation guide. If you got the soft top as the dual top package, you will need to skip the steps on mounting the fabric to the frame.
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Trying to do the soft top install too and my patience is wearing thin.
It looked so simple... I'm thinking the hard top is goin back up...
The YouTube videos just didn't show how it all attaches...

Please tell me this gets easier!!!!
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:04 PM   #17
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The hard part is the initial install, is it a 2Dr or 4dr? Is the soft top in place or completely in pieces ?
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I have the owners manual, but I literally can not find any instructions on how to attach it the first time. All I can find is how to raise/lower it.

I also did not seem to have any screws in my softtop bundle to attach the rods in the back.
You're looking at the user's guide not the owner's manual. The full manual is on your DVD or can be downloaded as previously mentioned. There's about 40 pages of instructions for putting on the soft top in there.
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4dr or 2dr? If it is the 4dr like mine I find it easiest to lock in the center above the back seats first cause then everything else seems to fall into place with minimal brain damage.
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There are 4 screws total, 2 that go into each bracket on the roll bar. There's a flap in the padding on the underside of your roll bar that you slide the bracket into. Pull the velcro down on that flap and you'll see the 2 mounting points. Might need to flex the top's frame a bit to get it in if it's brand new. Mine was rather tight the first time putting it on.

You should have the mounting screws. If they aren't pre-installed in your roll bar, check your glove box, the cubby hole in the back where the jack is, etc. If not, might wanna contact the dealer, otherwise it's rather basic hardware and you could easily pick some up at a local hardware store.

Folding it up and down is simple. The initial install is only slightly painful b/c you're trying to do it without seeing it.
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Trying to do the soft top install too and my patience is wearing thin.
It looked so simple... I'm thinking the hard top is goin back up...
The YouTube videos just didn't show how it all attaches...

Please tell me this gets easier!!!!
Thanks do much for all the feedback... I really appreciate everyone's help

Attempt number two today. Wish me luck!!!
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Did the dealer place the 4 screws in the holders where the hardtop screws are placed for storage? My dealer left the soft top on as they said it had to be removed by the customer so fortunately no hardware was missing however in your case it sounds like they may have forgotten to give you the 4 button hole screws.

Anyway, you are all correct in the fact that the instructions suck for installing/removing the soft top. However once you have done it you will find it is easy.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:49 AM   #23
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Ahhh I was tortured trying to "install" my soft top. As prior noted---the 'user guide' does not talk about the need for first time installation etc. i felt like a complete idiot. finally, i took it over to the dealer and had them do the installation so that i could be assured it was done properly, and get to watch firsthand how it is done. after the service center took care of everything, i went looking for my salesman. on the date of purchase, i asked if i could have one of the service techs show me up to properly put up the soft top. the salesman's response: oh you don't need to do that, it takes 90 seconds--it's already built in! anyway--i ended up getting my first oil change scheduled free of charge and a good discount on some mopar parts they sell. also... I'm barely over 5 feet tall. so that made my original attempts even more futile. haha. good luck to all who ran into the same problem!
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Trying to do the soft top install too and my patience is wearing thin.
It looked so simple... I'm thinking the hard top is goin back up...
The YouTube videos just didn't show how it all attaches...

Please tell me this gets easier!!!!
I have great news... Completely know how to install the 4 door soft top.... I was so off base on what had to be done!!!

The guys in service on rt 18 jeep store helped... Showed all the techniques and made me do it as well. Totally versed with it... Yay!

Now.. Waiting for the warm temps.
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I put mine on this weekend and have lots of abrasions on my hands to prove it. I didn't look at the directions and well...it was tough.
Wasn't until almost three hours into it (counting beverage breaks, etc) that I figured out that the bottoms of the side windows tuck under that lip.
My forearms and hands were so spent that I couldn't latch the front until the next day.
Hopefully it will stretch out and not be so tough next time.
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Initial Soft Top Install

The 2012 Manual does not have instructions for how to initially install the soft top in one place in the manual. I installed mine a few weeks ago after initially removing it from it's stored position inside the hard top as it was shipped from the factory with the dual top option.

After storing the soft top over the winter, I wanted to install the soft top for summer and by reading the manual and gleaming bits and pieces of info about the parts and some common sense, the install was very easy and took about 20 minutes of actual work time. Because the never raised factory soft top is stiff and contracted, I actually took about 2 hours in the initial raising of the roof to allow the sun to warm the fabric and make stretching the new top easier.

Here are some tips/pictures to help anyone else.

The factory soft top with the dual top optio comes with the frame brackets already installed on the roll bars. If they are separate, then as others have mentioned, installing the frame brackets on the roll bars would be the first step.

With the brackets already installed, the first step is installing the frame to the bracket with 4 T-30 bolts.



The "L" shaped rear frame attatches to the outside upper bracket and the front frame bracket attaches to the inner lower bracket.




There are 2 cardboard boxes with soft top parts. The next steps are to attach the door frame surrounds and the rear tail gate bar brackets. My door frames and hand knobs were in one box and the three windows and rear bar brackets were in another.

The door frame brackets are unfolded from the jack knifed position and attached with a peg in the bottom that fits into a hole in back and attached to the roll bar with a hand bolt that passes through the top of the door bracket, through the holes in the roll bar and then screws into the bottom of the door frame bracket.







The door bracket install are pretty well covered for two and four door models on pp 190-193 in the 2012 Owner's Manual
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The swing gate brackets are the weird shaped black plastic pieces that attach by pressing into place on either side of the swing gate.





These just clip into place and are shown on pg 207.

At this point you can start raising the top per the numerous youtube video instructions, the owner's manual, the quick start manual etc. For the initial raising, I raised it and did not attach the front clips or the back bows until it had sun soaked for about an hour (it was @ 70 degrees and sunny). I attached the front sun rider to the clips in the door frame first then more sun soaking for @ 1/2 hr, then attached the front clips without tightening them. I then pulled down on the far bow and clipped the rear sail body panels to the rear corners. After letting it sun soak for another half an hour, I latched the front and started attaching the windows.

The rear swing gate bar is slid onto the bottom of the rear window with the rubber seals facing downward.





The rest is just zipping in the windows and all that is covered in the raising and lowering the top instructions.


Good luck, it really is very easy and takes 15-20 minutes on the 2 door if you neglect the time to let the top warm up and stretch for the first time. Or I may have let it take longer than it needed, but it was pretty tight initially, and I was doing other chores in between.
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The swing gate brackets are the weird shaped black plastic pieces that attach by pressing into place on either side of the swing gate.





These just clip into place and are shown on pg 207.

At this point you can start raising the top per the numerous youtube video instructions, the owner's manual, the quick start manual etc. For the initial raising, I raised it and did not attach the front clips or the back bows until it had sun soaked for about an hour (it was @ 70 degrees and sunny). I attached the front sun rider to the clips in the door frame first then more sun soaking for @ 1/2 hr, then attached the front clips without tightening them. I then pulled down on the far bow and clipped the rear sail body panels to the rear corners. After letting it sun soak for another half an hour, I latched the front and started attaching the windows.

The rear swing gate bar is slid onto the bottom of the rear window with the rubber seals facing downward.





The rest is just zipping in the windows and all that is covered in the raising and lowering the top instructions.


Good luck, it really is very easy and takes 15-20 minutes on the 2 door if you neglect the time to let the top warm up and stretch for the first time. Or I may have let it take longer than it needed, but it was pretty tight initially, and I was doing other chores in between.
Really great write-up and pix. I'm sure there are a lot of folks out there that are are going to be very thankful to you.

Nice job!
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The 2012 Manual does not have instructions for how to initially install the soft top in one place in the manual. I installed mine a few weeks ago after initially removing it from it's stored position inside the hard top as it was shipped from the factory with the dual top option.

After storing the soft top over the winter, I wanted to install the soft top for summer and by reading the manual and gleaming bits and pieces of info about the parts and some common sense, the install was very easy and took about 20 minutes of actual work time. Because the never raised factory soft top is stiff and contracted, I actually took about 2 hours in the initial raising of the roof to allow the sun to warm the fabric and make stretching the new top easier.

Here are some tips/pictures to help anyone else.

The factory soft top with the dual top optio comes with the frame brackets already installed on the roll bars. If they are separate, then as others have mentioned, installing the frame brackets on the roll bars would be the first step.

With the brackets already installed, the first step is installing the frame to the bracket with 4 T-30 bolts.

The "L" shaped rear frame attatches to the outside upper bracket and the front frame bracket attaches to the inner lower bracket.

There are 2 cardboard boxes with soft top parts. The next steps are to attach the door frame surrounds and the rear tail gate bar brackets. My door frames and hand knobs were in one box and the three windows and rear bar brackets were in another.

The door frame brackets are unfolded from the jack knifed position and attached with a peg in the bottom that fits into a hole in back and attached to the roll bar with a hand bolt that passes through the top of the door bracket, through the holes in the roll bar and then screws into the bottom of the door frame bracket.

The door bracket install are pretty well covered for two and four door models on pp 190-193 in the 2012 Owner's Manual
Thanks so much for this... Practiced after all was done and fixed.. Takes me about 15 mins with the four door.. Lol.. I'm sure it gets easier .

Great writeup and pics. I'm sure lots of people can use this!!!
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All of this looks horrifying. I went with the Dual Top option, so hopefully, as was mentioned, the hardware is already installed, otherwise, it looks like I'm in a world of hurt...

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