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Old 09-10-2010, 10:56 AM   #1
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So I just bought a 2010 unlimited manual tranny with the 3.73 gear ratio. I don't plan on doing a lot of rock crawling or anything anytime soon. I do see dealing with a lot of snow an maybe some trail runs in the future. I was curious if I should get lockers. I know powertrax makes those auto lockers but I wasn't sure if that would help or hurt me in snow. Also I know jeep has a lot of features now that are suppose to throw the power where jts needed. Would you all suggest I get lockers or stick with the stock solutions. I want to do what is safest in the snow conditions. Thanks for the help.

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Old 09-10-2010, 01:53 PM   #2
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They would probably improve snow traction, but you can get by in snow without em. This last winter I ran around on the non Trac loc 3:73's on sheeted ice without much trouble. The stock traction control did a really good job, and I had to shut it off to get the jeep to slide.

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Old 09-10-2010, 01:57 PM   #3
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Full lockers are not the safest solution for snow and ice. Does your Jeep have the Trac-Lok (limited slip) rear end? If not, Detroit Tru-Trac would be my reccommendation to you for the rear at least and both axles if you can afford it. I've heard nice things about them. Plus, they won't kill you on snow and ice.
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Old 09-10-2010, 02:37 PM   #4
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And if it does have the Trac-Loc? Im not sure but I'll check if it does after work.
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Old 09-10-2010, 02:42 PM   #5
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if it does than you will be fine. Lockers are for hardcore offroading. I would not buy them just for snow. We got dumped on last winter(MD) and I never even had to use 4lo. When I take it offroad I have not used the lockers yet. I am sure when I hit RC soon that I can find some places to use them but until than ....
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Old 09-10-2010, 03:42 PM   #6
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So it turns out I do have Trac-loc. So does that cover the front axle too? I was looking to be safe in the snow as well as be able to do some decent off-roading. I am unsure about the balance between the two. I'm also in Maryland (Millersville) and afte last year I want to be sure my Jeep can handle whatever this winter can throw at it.
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Old 09-10-2010, 03:47 PM   #7
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Your front is an open diff, the only locker you want in the front is a selectable one. You lock up the front on ice or snow and you will have some steering issues, as in scary. I have an 06 with with the same set up as you and have had no difficulty in the winter.
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Old 09-10-2010, 04:41 PM   #8
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Awesome. Thank you all for your help. Looks like I'll save the money for a small lift and some better tires.
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Old 09-10-2010, 04:56 PM   #9
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I think lockers are great. They make a huge difference in what you can climb up or down.

But I wouldn't recommend running right and getting them. Find out if your Jeep is up to what you want to do first. Go on the club runs, hit some trails. Get stuck once or twice. Then, if you want more, go get the lockers.

A stock Wrangler is extremely capable off road. Most people don't exceed those capabilities. If you do, that's awesome. You can go join Jerry B. out in the California desert.
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Old 09-10-2010, 04:57 PM   #10
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I'd say wheel it as is until your own personal experience has you feeling like you need something more. In the meantime you can do more research and talk to people on the trails to help you make a decision on what you need.
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If you've got 4x4 with the Trac-Lok LSD you'll do just fine in snow. And you should still be able to tackle the vast majority of trails you come across.
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Sounds like a plan. Thank you all.
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If you've got 4x4 with the Trac-Lok LSD you'll do just fine in snow. And you should still be able to tackle the vast majority of trails you come across.
Exactly.
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if it does than you will be fine. Lockers are for hardcore offroading. I would not buy them just for snow. We got dumped on last winter(MD) and I never even had to use 4lo. When I take it offroad I have not used the lockers yet. I am sure when I hit RC soon that I can find some places to use them but until than ....
Belive me when I tell you you lucked out in not "needing" 4 low. It has way to much torque for snow. All that will happen is spin or if you do get going it'll spin on every shift just stick with 4 high and it'll be fine.
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Sorry partner, but the only way to drive in deep snow (over 3' deep) is with low tire pressure (3/6) psi and 4lo--


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Belive me when I tell you you lucked out in not "needing" 4 low. It has way to much torque for snow. All that will happen is spin or if you do get going it'll spin on every shift just stick with 4 high and it'll be fine.
4Hi is what spins tires on snow and ice and sand--not 4lo

4lo gives you inch by inch tire rotation control that you won't get with 4hi--

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I vote for 4 Medium. :roleyes:
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Yo AS, man what a NEGOTIATOR


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I vote for 4 Medium. :roleyes:
Wonderful compromise statement !!

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Yo AS, man what a NEGOTIATOR




Wonderful compromise statement !!

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Also, if you think about it, if you put the lever halfway between 4hi and 4lo (4med) you wouldn't have to worry about how deep the snow is.
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Sorry partner, but the only way to drive in deep snow (over 3' deep) is with low tire pressure (3/6) psi and 4lo--




4Hi is what spins tires on snow and ice and sand--not 4lo

4lo gives you inch by inch tire rotation control that you won't get with 4hi--

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I guess your right I live in TN and don't get out much in the snow. Unless you count I80 from Chi to SF 2 trips a week all winter.
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Yea, "The Negotiator" great movie with Jackson


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Samuel L. Jackson's got nothing on me. <-- (got my second l in there that time.)

Also, if you think about it, if you put the lever halfway between 4hi and 4lo (4med) you wouldn't have to worry about how deep the snow is.


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I guess your right I live in TN and don't get out much in the snow. Unless you count I80 from Chi to SF 2 trips a week all winter.
Yea I've driven quite a bit in deep snow 8/15' and it was so doable in 4lo/auto/5psi tires

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Full lockers are not the safest solution for snow and ice. Does your Jeep have the Trac-Lok (limited slip) rear end? If not, Detroit Tru-Trac would be my reccommendation to you for the rear at least and both axles if you can afford it. I've heard nice things about them. Plus, they won't kill you on snow and ice.
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