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Old 10-11-2010, 03:56 PM   #1
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lockers for a sahara?

i have a 2007 wrangler sahara unlimited and it is my first jeep which i love by the way....but i didnt think i would need a rubicon bc i had planned on changing the gears and suspension on my sahara. the only thing i didnt think about was the lockers...what should i do? i have already put 6 grand in the sahara and have only had it for 2 months
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Old 10-11-2010, 04:07 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum.

Aussie lockers are quiet and strong. Especially in the front you don't hardly ever notice there in there.

For the rear if it's a daily driver you might want to think about ARB's lockers to turn on and off. DD rear locker will eat your tires in a HURRY!

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Old 10-11-2010, 04:10 PM   #3
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yea it isnt a full daily driver but i tend to take it out everytime i can drive with the top off...how expensive are we looking at for the front and rear?
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look into ox lockers. i got them and love them, and there made here in the usa.
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yea it isnt a full daily driver but i tend to take it out everytime i can drive with the top off...how expensive are we looking at for the front and rear?
Well the Aussie is the $$$ saver.
I'm not too familiar with the sahara rear d44 but if it's got limited slip you'll be able to get away with a lot for very little meaning all you really need for moderate offroad is just a front locker.

Aussie's you can find for 250+ and can be done by yourself.

Ox and ARB's are much more expensive $1000+ but you get that switch that gives you the option.


I've got the factory trac-loc rear in my d44 and I've done extensive research for my daily driver. The Aussie by far has the best ON road performance and is super strong off road.
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I have a Sahara also & put ARB air lockers in it, I have never regretted it & am very glad I went for the selectable lockers. They cost me but it was worth it, I had the Jeep re-geared & the lockers fitted for $4000 so now the total I have put into it is around $8000. Don't care because I am keeping it & it's how I want it. If you get the same it is important to have someone fit them that knows a thing or two so that the lines are run right & the job is professional
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so it was 4000 all together for the lockers and gears and install?
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:47 AM   #8
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full time front lockers do not belong on the street. get a selectable one
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Have you ever gotten it stuck and wished you were locked?
The BLDs do a tremendous job and, although I've pointed out when it happens, almost never fail.

Have you already regeared? If not, put in an Auburn Ected when you do in the rear and a stout LSD up front. If you've already regeared, forget about it until you get stuck a few times.
Bet you don't get stuck though.
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Shouldn't cost you more than $3K to go to ARB f/r including labor w/master kits (depending on where you live). Out here (NorCal) it's $350/axle to install an ARB/gears. You will need the mini compressor as well. If you need gears, add approximately $360 for 4.88s.

E-Lockers are a good choice as mentioned. So is the "Lunchbox Locker" option. Do it in your driveway in an afternoon and low expense.
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hilldweller no i have not gotten stuck yet but i havent gone into anything to extreme pretty much just mud that are halfway up my tires...and AOR i havent regeared anything yet
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ok, dumb newbie question but, what do lockers do?
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ok, dumb newbie question but, what do lockers do?
They Lock the left/right wheels together on an axle so that they are turning equally and both are applying power. vs Open, where one wheel may spin when traction is lost and the other will not move.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:11 AM   #14
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perfect answer lol
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Ok- I already answered this in several other threads, including one of yours, but...

Add a rear locker. If you're not having issues with traction with 2 open diffs, I'd leave the front alone for the time being. Messing with the front is messing with your steering end. A lot of people have problems steering on the trail when they realize they have locked their front end. See my posts in your other thread- Mark W.
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thanks mark!
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so it was 4000 all together for the lockers and gears and install?
Yes $4000 for everything, front & rear lockers, 513 gears & ARB compressor with some air hose & fitting for pumping up tires after airing down on trails. I got several quotes for the job, they were all much the same. Tereflex was $4000, Moab 4x4 did the job & met Teraflex's estimate.
I got the front & rear done at the same time because I had the money to do it at the time, sometimes I don't use the front just the rear, depends on the trail
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Yeah- I only use my front when I'm good and stucked Rear is almost always on when I'm in the goo, or on the rocks. I try to use them as little as possible, to avoid potential breakage issues (I have rotten luck with that!)- Mark W.
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hilldweller no i have not gotten stuck yet but i havent gone into anything to extreme pretty much just mud that are halfway up my tires...and AOR i havent regeared anything yet
Maybe regear and add the Ected in back at the same time. Total bill will be $2300 or so from a good shop.

The JK isn't a TJ; the BLDs do a heck of a job.
Open diff takes on a new meaning for us. A TJ needed lockers; for us they just help on the most serious trails.
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If you have limited slip rear diff. Would you need lockers in the rear?
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You can't have both a limited slip AND a locker, unless it's an Auburn ECTED. The factory LSD is WEAK- I WOULD recommend replacing it if you're planning on wheeling it hard- Mark W.
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If you have limited slip rear diff. Would you need lockers in the rear?
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....The factory LSD is WEAK- I WOULD recommend replacing it if you're planning on wheeling it hard- Mark W.
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the stock LSD would be suited to my MINI Cooper rather than an offroad vehicle.
I still think the stock BLDs are superior to any but the stoutest aftermarket LSDs available.
I'd just want something selectable if it were my money.

Again, it boils down to where you wheel and how often you'd need a true locker.
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For sake of resurrecting an older thread...

I noticed some people mention that some lockers are better on a daily driver than others. Now if they are not engaged, they should not effect it? or is that naive?
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The only way your not going to have them engaged is by two companies. ARB and OX.

OX are good, ARB's are the best limited if any issues. I say go ARB's but they will set you back about 1000 bucks each with the supporting mods. So if you are content with your 44 and 30 front go ARBs and call it a day. Make sure you get the larger splined units so you upgrade to your max.
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The only way your not going to have them engaged is by two companies. ARB and OX.

OX are good, ARB's are the best limited if any issues. I say go ARB's but they will set you back about 1000 bucks each with the supporting mods. So if you are content with your 44 and 30 front go ARBs and call it a day. Make sure you get the larger splined units so you upgrade to your max.
There are others- Auburn's ECTED is a selectable locker that runs as a limited slip when not engaged, and the Eaton E-Locker is straight open when not engaged. You could also grab a Rubicon take off locker. Yukon gear also just released an air locker, as well.

The answer to the question is this: some lockers, like those mentioned above, are selectable, meaning you engage them yourself, via a switch, using air pressure (ARB, Yukon), or a cable (OX), or electricity (Auburn, Eaton). These are preferable to automatic lockers (both lunchbox-stlye [Aussie, Lockright, etc.], or Detroit, which you have no control over, and are generally locked 100% of the time. The downside to 100% locking is that in parking lots, and other tight spots, you'll have some trouble navigating turns, and will bark the tires. It can also lead to some difficulty in driving on the road, until you get used to it. Also, winter driving (for those of us in the snow belt) gets VERY exciting with a locked axle Mark W.
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Wow. I didn't realise that so few engaged on the fly... Thanks!
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Wow. I didn't realise that so few engaged on the fly... Thanks!
Would you want them to engage going down the interstate or would you rather have a lever (OX) or switch (ARB) and know they are inactive till you need them? Verry few have engaged in an unwanted place but I just don't care for the option.
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^ It's not so much engaging in an unwanted place- non-selectable lockers are engaged any time you have wheel speed differences between right and left tires. How much/how harshly depends on the locker. Going down the interstate, if it's straight, or darn close, it wouldn't matter if you're locked, or unlocked, as there's no differential action going on- Mark W.
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