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Old 03-18-2013, 04:41 PM   #1
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Looking at a 11' Sahara

I'm considering a 2011 Sahara with 25,000 miles . From the CarFax here is what I know. I'd appreciate any comments if you see anything concerning to you.

Regular Oil changes at dealer; 7k, 10k, 13k, 18k, 21k.

Had the windshield replaced at 7k and Steering/suspension and electrical system check at 13k, and the throttle body cleaned/serviced at 18k. I've read here about some windshields cracking on their own, but could the steering/suspension at 13k, could that have been a death wobble? At 18k it seems a bit early for throttle body, unless it was a profit center, or could it be a problem brewing?

The service dealership that did the work is local but it's for sale from a different local dealership so I'm doubtful that I'd get much info from the service dealership.

It appears to have the hard and soft tops, and the soft top looks like it's been unused based on the orange sticker.


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Old 03-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #2
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HOLY SMOKES!!! Please don't tell me they never removed the soft-top?!?!

If that is a Sahara Tan, that is a major plus.

I'll say this much...
If it is in Sahara Tan, and is a stick shift with 3.73's, I would consider it.

If it is a stick with 3.21's, or an auto (which only came with 3.73's), I would pass.

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Old 03-18-2013, 05:08 PM   #3
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Thanks for the comments, what makes the Sahara Tan a major plus? I've sort of been gathering the Sahara Tan wasn't a big hit. But being that I live in the desert I rather like the idea. A friend that did stop and look at was told an older couple owned it (I'm hearing the little old lady from Pasadena when I hear that sort of thing though).

It is the Sahara Tan, with 3.73 Auto. Curious why would you pass?
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:19 PM   #4
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... what makes the Sahara Tan a major plus?
Because I have one...

Seriously, I have an '11 JK Sahara automatic and I love it. It has over 30,000 miles on it and haven't done a thing but oil changes every 3500-4000 miles.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:19 PM   #5
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I have a 2011 Sahara with auto transmission. Is fine. Could it use more pep? Yes. But is it enjoyable as it is? Yes. Test drive it and decide for yourself.
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Thanks for the comments, what makes the Sahara Tan a major plus? I've sort of been gathering the Sahara Tan wasn't a big hit. But being that I live in the desert I rather like the idea. A friend that did stop and look at was told an older couple owned it (I'm hearing the little old lady from Pasadena when I hear that sort of thing though).

It is the Sahara Tan, with 3.73 Auto. Curious why would you pass?
Sahara Tan is probably my favorite JK color...and was cut short by the tsunami in Japan (or so Jeep says).

As for as the pre 2012 auto's go, the 42RLE 4 auto speed tranny is poorly matched to the engine....so on the heavier 4 door, it can lack guts on hills or when passing.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:35 PM   #7
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Good info, thanks for the feedback. I'm gathering that there's no big concern about the windshield or the steering/suspension.
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Good info, thanks for the feedback. I'm gathering that there's no big concern about the windshield or the steering/suspension.
The windshield, no I would not worry at all. The steering/suspension I personally would not freak out, since it could be something as simple as previous owner having it checked because "it pulls when I try to park in 4wd" No kidding, people ask about that on this forum every other week. But pay attention when test driving it. The throttle body service does seem odd, but it could very well be the service people taking advantage of the previous owner.

As for the auto, I will reiterate my disagreement with panthermark. I have never felt it lacked guts going uphill or when passing. It ain't a sports car and won't win you any drag races. Nor would I enter it for Pike's Peak, but it isn't that bad. I'm sure the new engine is nicer, and the new tranny has an extra gear and that's good. But I cant say I'm unhappy with my 11 with the auto transmission
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I'm considering a 2011 Sahara with 25,000 miles . From the CarFax here is what I know. I'd appreciate any comments if you see anything concerning to you.

Regular Oil changes at dealer; 7k, 10k, 13k, 18k, 21k.

Had the windshield replaced at 7k and Steering/suspension and electrical system check at 13k, and the throttle body cleaned/serviced at 18k. I've read here about some windshields cracking on their own, but could the steering/suspension at 13k, could that have been a death wobble? At 18k it seems a bit early for throttle body, unless it was a profit center, or could it be a problem brewing?

The service dealership that did the work is local but it's for sale from a different local dealership so I'm doubtful that I'd get much info from the service dealership.

It appears to have the hard and soft tops, and the soft top looks like it's been unused based on the orange sticker.

One of the big reasons why we absolutely love ours, is the fact that we've only seen one other all Sahara Tan Sahara Unlimited on the road in over two years, which is a great feeling. It is an automatic thought, but it gets us around just fine for our purposes. Plus, the 3.8 is a very reliable engine. If it were me I would strongly consider the one you're looking at, because Sahara Tan with a Saddle Tan interior go perfectly together, in my opinion.




I'd be very cool to adopt this one into the family too!

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:44 PM   #10
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Again thanks for the comments much appreciated. I was going to see about a test drive this afternoon but we had some wicked winds so decided to wait till Tuesday.

I don't see us doing any hardcore rock climbing but I'm looking at getting out of our ATVs and hoping we can still get on some of the USFS roads and dunes without all the extra work maintaining the ATVs.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:15 AM   #11
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Finally had the time, and decent weather, to take the Jeep out on Sunday. Dealership let my wife and I take it out on our own! Had good run taking on rough roads that I knew about, corners and highway. All in all did great. Compared to our old Chevy Trailblazer I liked the handling MUCH better.

Jeep itself was in great, almost show room condition. The soft top was never used. There are 4 rock chips in the window, not sure if they will replace the glass if I deal on it or not. Rig has a smoke smell, they said they can take care of that.

I couldn't verify the tow ratings so on Monday I went to the Jeep dealer, who also sold and serviced this Jeep. Service guy ran a report but didn't give the rear axle ratio, but the parts guy verified it. Later I noticed the report he gave me had the original buyers name and phone number. Debated about contacting him most of the day. Found the same cell number on a Craigslist add so figured I'd drop him a text. He was a bit surprised but no issues that I contacted him. Confirmed that that Jeep was his "baby" and well taken care of and no mechanical problems.

Dealer is asking about $29k with about 25k on the odometer, this is about the best deal I've seen in my area for a Sahara. Wife likes it, so now time to see about trading in my F150 and see if we can strike a deal.
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You might want to take a look at the new ones before you pay 29k for a used one.
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Just something that I considered before getting my 2013 JKU Sahara is that 2012 is the first year Jeep switched to the 285hp pentastar motor, so I decided to not look any older than 12's. If that isnt important to you, then I say go test drive it!
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I paid 34k for my 2013, heated leather, Nav system, remote start.
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I paid 34k for my 2013, heated leather, Nav system, remote start.
i would second this sentiment.... at $29,000 you are probably within $100 / month of being able to get a new one. A new Sahara JKU with dual top, auto , NAV and remote start is about $37,000 MSRP...you should be able to get it for about $34,000 no problem, maybe $33,000
Remember we are getting into "left over time" and there are plenty of 4 doors on the lots..at least around me there are...
AND a new car loan would most likely be a little lower intrest rate helping to close the monthly gap even more...and warranty..and on and on and on...

AND the new one will smell NEW, not like smoke
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Nice find. I would try to bring them down a little, but then again that is based on prices in my area and prices vary depending on where you are. I have a '11 and love it. I'm just surprised the soft top was never even opened! And Sahara tan is a great color.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:54 PM   #17
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I'm looking new as well just mostly finding Sport or Rubicon, and most the Rubi's are LOADED. They have a Rock Lobster Sahara Moab but not sure about that color. I dealt with this dealer when they took over the Jeep dealership from another and didn't much care for their style of negotiating or service. You know that slimy feeling. I'm also contacting Dave Smith.

I was surprised about the soft top not being used, heck I plan on removing the hard top right away if I get it. But when it hits 110 degrees I may change my mind.

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