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Old 07-23-2009, 10:08 PM   #1
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so what do you want to know?? price?? options??? I am lost...

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Old 07-23-2009, 11:52 PM   #3
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haha sorry just wonder what u guys thought of this jeep i hope it works out very sharp jeep
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:08 AM   #4
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oh it seems like it will be nice ride, a little to pricey for me but i am sure you can talk em down
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:12 AM   #5
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yea will try haharight now jeep are very hard to get on there selling like crazy so not much neg ya know if anythgin ill try to have them throw in like titn my windows or something. i wont be rock crawling but i will go to the beach and maybe a little trails
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Honestly- for that price, you would be far better to go for a Rubi with a few hundred mile on it & save some $. They come stock with lockers & with luck you can pick up one with wheels & a lift. But a word of caution, if you go for a used one take it for a good ride, try everything out & make sure to drive it down a bumpy road to see if the steering wheel shakes. If not you are set, if it does then may have death wobble, so move on to another one.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:58 AM   #7
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Do you really want leather seats in a jeep? Just seems sacreligious....
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^ my thoughts to.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:54 AM   #9
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yea im not a hard core off road and its really for my wife. well i got them to 33g for it
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:55 AM   #10
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i mean ill def go on the beach and maybe trails but i wont be doing any mud buggin or rock crawlin
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yea im not a hard core off road and its really for my wife. well i got them to 33g for it
Offer 28K and settle for 29.
That's alot of candy and not much meat.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:34 AM   #12
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haha i will see what i can do. but you guys think its a good truck or you are all just hard core rubi guys haha
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I can't see all that money for gadgetry. If you want a fancy ride, there are better, cheaper, and more comfortable luxury vehicles. If you want a hardcore offroad machine the Rubicon can't be beat.

My wife wanted a Wrangler to drive in town mostly and offroad when we go to our rural property. Love to run topless - the Wrangler, not the wife. Never gonna do any serious rock crawling, maybe a rough 4wd road or creek bed enroute to a cave or crag. We picked up a new 2009 4dr X in April for around $23K. It will do everything that Sahara will, just less toys & less $'s.

But that's me. If you love the Sahara for $33K, go for it and enjoy. What do you care what anyone else thinks?
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It looks like a great jeep for what you are going to use it for. You should be able to buy it for $28K to $29K plus tt&l.
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For 35k... I would get a BMW awd...
You know you should at least get 4500 off the price.. that's was chrysler is offering in addtion to the 4500 for cash for clunkers.. so That would be my starting point...
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yea that if the jeep quilitfies the wrangles dont haha they screw ya everywhich way ill get some off tho
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haha i will see what i can do. but you guys think its a good truck or you are all just hard core rubi guys haha
I actually have a Sahara but I work for a vendor and paid employee price for it.

That said, look at what a Sahara gives you, what you'll want to keep, and what you'll wind up tossing.

Leather seats; I could actually dig that. Regular seats are the YesEssentials and they are a much more comfortable seat. That stays.

Side steps; while the wife might love them, they will eventually break on something and need to be replaced. Toss.

Silver plastic cover thingies on the bumpers. Please be real, Mr Jeep designer. You mock us with the plastic bumpers, in general; you insult us with silver plastic cover thingies. Toss; bumpers too for that matter.

18" wheels with (gag, choke) Dueller tires; for the love of Gawd, I'd like to meet the sniveling sycophant that came up with this combo and punch him in the throat. What a silly wheel size with terrible options for replacement rubber. Toss as quickly as possible.

Fog lights; they're functional. Keep.

Tow hooks; they're not functional on a hard recovery and I've seen this type of hook bend/snap and turn a winch line or strap into a ballistic weapon. Toss.

Electric doors and windows; call me a wuss, but I love them. Keepers.

Infinity sound; again, sounds better than my MINI's premium audio. Keeper.

Leather wrapped steering wheel with more silver plastic on the spokes; ummmm, okay...

Color-matched fenders; did I really pay extra for that? I hate to feel like a tool. Key-roist.

Khaki hardtop; I actually like that one too. Stop judging me...

Ultimately, you're the one that has to love your Jeep. If you love it, I love it.
Just don't feel that the gee-gaws that come on a Sahara are worth the premium that they want to charge you. The other poster was right; you can do better on most things in the aftermarket.


The evolution of my Sahara and my harsh acceptance of reality.
1) I'll only go offroad once in a while; I don't need a Rubicon. Here I am at Tellico as I start to understand how I miscalculated...


2) A few mods and better tires; that's all I need:


3) Just a little "something" for camping:


4) Okay; these tires suck too. I almost killed myself and both my plastic bumpers are trashed. My fenders look like crap. And what the dip will happen if I get stuck alone?


5) More money spent and no end in sight:




Sooner or later they all become Rubicons.
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Old 07-24-2009, 11:12 PM   #18
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truck looks good man nice work
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I can't see all that money for gadgetry. If you want a fancy ride, there are better, cheaper, and more comfortable luxury vehicles. If you want a hardcore offroad machine the Rubicon can't be beat.

My wife wanted a Wrangler to drive in town mostly and offroad when we go to our rural property. Love to run topless - the Wrangler, not the wife. Never gonna do any serious rock crawling, maybe a rough 4wd road or creek bed enroute to a cave or crag. We picked up a new 2009 4dr X in April for around $23K. It will do everything that Sahara will, just less toys & less $'s.

But that's me. If you love the Sahara for $33K, go for it and enjoy. What do you care what anyone else thinks?
Good points. If you just want a fancy 4wd, there are much better options with far more power, acceleration & finish.

If you truly want a Jeep, I think that price was quite high, even at $33k, but heck it is just my opinion which shouldn't matter.
I bought just before the bankruptcy, and I walked off the lot with a maxxed-out Rubi (sticker at 37k) for $27k. I had an actual sales quote from an authorized Jeep dealer for the exact same Rubi, showed it to them, and told them I would buy local -today-, if they would meet the price. Took them about 5 mins to decide to take the deal.

I guess those days are gone. Not sure.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:32 AM   #20
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Do you really want leather seats in a jeep? Just seems sacreligious....
I agree on the leather. Don't get me wrong, leather seats are great...but not for a jeep. You will be caught in your fair share of rain storms, probably not good for the seats. These things come with drain plugs for a reason.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:42 PM   #21
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haha im def not like you guys i see that already haha. but i gotta say i love the truck and on long island you arent getting deals like you guys get
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I agree on the leather. Don't get me wrong, leather seats are great...but not for a jeep. You will be caught in your fair share of rain storms, probably not good for the seats. These things come with drain plugs for a reason.
See...I put leather seats in my Miata after the other guys told me that the leather would do fine in the rain.
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Leather should be fine in the rain, periodically. I wouldn't do it daily... Sun however will become your enemy, if you like to leave the top down.... Especially if your wife wears shorts. Sounds like it's mostly going to be a mall crawler which is fine, if that's what you want. And if you both like the Jeep and are comfortable with the deal you reach then that is all that matters.

Love it and it will love you back, if you don't like it, sell it to me..... I need a 4 door!
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:08 PM   #24
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hahah yea we love it we wanted the best of both worlds so were good plus were not goin to rock crwal it so we dont really need the rubi
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I am thinking about trading in my Yukon for a JK Sahara equipped much like yours.. Not for a off-road vehicle (my decked-out TJ sits in the garage), but a daily driver (don't need a rubi), I need street manners with good snow/mountain driveability..
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yea i hear ya man that all me too and maybe some beach y aknow but man i love it. and before i got this i was a strickly v8 guy and stuff but its got some pep to it and i cant wait to lift it a little
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Sounds like you are truly enjoying it and that is the only thing that matters!!!
Not the trim, options or the model ---- just that you got a JEEP!! Enjoy it!
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:28 PM   #28
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thats right and thats why they have options for everyones liking haha
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If its for the wifey as a daily driver get the Sahara - she will be more happy. I crack up on all the the Rubi is better and the Sahara is a mall crawler talk....they are Wranglers and they (including the X) will go where most other 4x4's only dream of. When guys post the 'Rubi is better' this in that all I can think of is when I was in high school and the my pecker is bigger than your pecker talk.

They make different trims for different folks. I'll more than likely never rock climb so the Rubi for me was overkill. I'd probably lead the sway disconnect off and take a corner to quickly and roll the thing thinking I'm in the other car.

The toss-keep thread is actually a good logical check list to think of when your buying a Wrangler. If I were to mod the heck out of it and bag the heck out of it hardcore off roading I would have purchased the X.
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Ok, well just enjoy owning a Jeep regardless of what model or year it is. I have a Sahara 4 door,with plenty of options, bought it for $24k. with 20,000 mile on it. I am totally happy with it now that I have sunk another $8k into it for lockers, bars, winch & other goodies. So $32k later I have exactly what I wanted. At the time I got it the Rubi's were quiet a bit more money, so.............if you are happy to pay the amount you can get it for then go for it!
It does depend on what you are going to use it for of course but if you are not seriously thinking of off roading it then get a base model may as well save some where you can right, it's still a Jeep

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