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Old 12-10-2013, 12:53 AM   #1
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Looking at used JK's

hey everyone! i currently have a TJ but plan to upgrade to a JK in the future and have some questions. What years should i look for and what problems should i look for. Not looking to purchase a new JK it will be used. Thanks

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Old 12-10-2013, 01:58 AM   #2
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How old are you looking to go?

2011 has the updated interior but still has the 3.8 (Which I like)

2012 started the run with the 3.6 Pentastar

Those were the really big changes in the JK model-years.

I'm very happy with my 2010.

Honestly tho, for the price of a 2011 or 2012 used, you could fork out just a tiny bit more and get a 2013 or 2014 new.

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Old 12-10-2013, 02:12 AM   #3
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Before i placed my order, I looked at used JKUs. My wife has a 2013 and i llke the 3.6 and the interior on them. With the incentives i was getting I decided to go new. It's true what they say, Wrangler hold their value....or dealerships mark the prices up on used ones to take advantage. for roughly 500 bucks more, I'm getting a 2014 with a hardtop then what i would have paid for a 2012 with a soft top.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:56 AM   #4
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:07 AM   #5
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I'm very happy with my used 2012. Bought it with 8k miles on it and yes, for a few thousand more I could have had a 2013/14, but why pay the extra few thousand? The vehicle only had one oil change, and I bought from a dealership so certified pre-owned with the full warranty period. I wanted 2012 or newer due to the Pentastar engine. I get about 20MPG in mostly HWY/limited city driving and lock in cruise at about 65.
I really wanted the Hard top as I use the vehicle for my daily driver. I waited until I got the deal I wanted on my trade and the Jeep.
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:35 AM   #6
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We found it much better to go new considering even 07 JKs with 50k+ miles were selling for just about what I got a new 2014 sport for out the door. Don't pay too much for a used Jeep. I would save longer and go new unless you find a rare deal. I test drove several used wranglers and found the sellers (both private and dealers) thought that their used wranglers should sell for several thousand over KBB regardless of how they had been maintained. The used wrangler market is a joke
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I went through this in September. 2010 is when Dana 44 rear axles became standard.

I drove a 2012 with 6 speed, 3.21 gears and 33" tires. It was sluggish and unacceptable to me even with the more powerful 3.6 engine. Especially getting started on inclines. It wasn't as bad once you got it moving.

I drove a new 2013, with 32" tires, auto and 3.21 gears. It was fine, but over budget for me.

I drove several 2007's with varying equipment and was pretty much settled on one of these being the only thing within my budget. I was looking to pay cash. I found that as long as I stayed with 3.73 gearing there wasn't that much difference in power even with the older 3.8 engine.

I ran across a 2010 on the internet with 3.73 gears and 1/2 the mileage of the 07's I'd been looking at for about $500 less. But it was a 2 hour drive from home and I wasn't sure it was worth the drive. It was, that was the one I ended up with and have no regrets.

In a lot of ways new would be nice, but saving $12,000 and making no payments is nicer.
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:59 AM   #8
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Thanks for the replies! A lot to think about!!
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Be aware, the early production 2012 had engine (head I think) issues. Look around for tickiing engine threads, they are everywhere.

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Honestly tho, for the price of a 2011 or 2012 used, you could fork out just a tiny bit more and get a 2013 or 2014 new.

This one.

I ordered new. I couldn't reconcile saving $3,000ish for a 2-3 year old Wrangler with 30,000ish miles. It may be a regional thing though.

Don't underestimate what you could pay for a new one. I went in and offered 2.5% below invoice and shook hands about 5 minutes later at that price.
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I went through this in September. 2010 is when Dana 44 rear axles became standard.

I drove a 2012 with 6 speed, 3.21 gears and 33" tires. It was sluggish and unacceptable to me even with the more powerful 3.6 engine. Especially getting started on inclines. It wasn't as bad once you got it moving.

I drove a new 2013, with 32" tires, auto and 3.21 gears. It was fine, but over budget for me.

I drove several 2007's with varying equipment and was pretty much settled on one of these being the only thing within my budget. I was looking to pay cash. I found that as long as I stayed with 3.73 gearing there wasn't that much difference in power even with the older 3.8 engine.

I ran across a 2010 on the internet with 3.73 gears and 1/2 the mileage of the 07's I'd been looking at for about $500 less. But it was a 2 hour drive from home and I wasn't sure it was worth the drive. It was, that was the one I ended up with and have no regrets.

In a lot of ways new would be nice, but saving $12,000 and making no payments is nicer.

I am in the same boat here, looking to purchase a used/early year JK. This will be more of a recreation vehicle, NOT a DD. Don't want a 2007. i have always had bad experiences with 1st year production vehicles.

Been looking at the 2008-2009, hoping to find one in my budget, but YES they are way over $$$ in my opinion. A few deals out there after they sit for awhile.

JMR40, I too would like the 3.73 gearing but most of the time it is not listed and unknown. Do you have a way to tell just by looking at the hub or is there a coding in the VIN?
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I live in FL and a new Jk auto is about 30k I am selling my 2012 at 24.500 I can see a couple K difference between a new X and a sport but at least a 4-5k diff between 2012 and 2014 spt .
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Good info... Im watching this too.
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I paid $21,990 for my 2010 Sport, with leather, with the 17" 5-spokes and brand new SR-As. Lucked into the fact that it was one of the rare Dark Charcoal Pearls, but I didn't even know that at the time.

I'm very happy with it and feel like I didn't overpay. Especially considering I got the Carfax 75k warranty thrown in with it. I went with the 2010 because for $21,900, I knew I couldn't get a 2013/2014 Sport with the 17" wheels, with leather, with the hard top for anywhere near that price.

So I'm very happy. But I also know that a friend of mine just paid $28,000 for a 2008 Rubicon.

California's a tough market. The Jeeps are everywhere, but people want a premium for them, and usually get it.
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If you can go new. With that said I think when people are saying you can get new for same price or 1-2 thousand over just make sure that you are comparing similarly equipped jeeps. People fall into the numbers point but miss the differences in some of the used jeeps vs new. I paid 21 ish for my 08 jku sahara unlimited with hardtop auto nav prem wheels basically I guess most of the available options missing and at least in my area was not getting a 13 or now I guess 14 with all of that now where near same price. I could have probably got a new sport jku bare bones maybe for 24-25 and even then dealers weren't trying to let them go without being in the 26-27 range. Now with used thier are a lot of bad deals out there also so you have to be careful that way too. My friend bought same jeep as mine dif color and a yr older 09 same mileage for 29k. I think he got burned and he felt that way after I bought mine for much less. Point is know the differences in what you can get new vs used weigh pros cons of each deal and factor in what's most important to you. But sometimes it's a little more to it then just buy new for the same price
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If you can go new. With that said I think when people are saying you can get new for same price or 1-2 thousand over just make sure that you are comparing similarly equipped jeeps. People fall into the numbers point but miss the differences in some of the used jeeps vs new. I paid 21 ish for my 08 jku sahara unlimited with hardtop auto nav prem wheels basically I guess most of the available options missing and at least in my area was not getting a 13 or now I guess 14 with all of that now where near same price. I could have probably got a new sport jku bare bones maybe for 24-25 and even then dealers weren't trying to let them go without being in the 26-27 range. Now with used thier are a lot of bad deals out there also so you have to be careful that way too. My friend bought same jeep as mine dif color and a yr older 09 same mileage for 29k. I think he got burned and he felt that way after I bought mine for much less. Point is know the differences in what you can get new vs used weigh pros cons of each deal and factor in what's most important to you. But sometimes it's a little more to it then just buy new for the same price
Hah.. Im a car dealer so I guess I resemble that...Its about what someone will pay or how little is ok to make. Everyone wants to get pd to go to work in the am. Just dont make it all on one person.
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Please don't take offense at my post. I agree, you should get paid when you get up and go to work. I was upset at a couple of the dealers in my area, they were in fact dishonest about my trade telling me I they could get to my price and then coming in 2k-3k higher. I also found a couple of dealers that I felt were doing all they could but just couldn't get there. Good luck to you buddy, I'm a capitalist and agree with your sentiment completely. Be honest and get the most you can get. Same for the buyer, be honest about what you want and get it for the best price you can get.
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seems like the 08-09's were great! I had an 07 not bad and if you picked one up the problems are probably worked out. What I will say is stay away from 2012 a lot of people had major problems. I had two bad 2012's... on had an engine with constant issue and a burning oil smell when I had the heater on. The dealer never could fix it traded it on a another new 2012 and it was delivered with the wrong T-Case I could not put it in 4 wheel drive due to miss matched gearing. They put a 2.72 T-Case in a Rubi that was suppose to be the 4.1. My 2013 has been good so far and people seem to have good luck with them.
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I got a good deal on mine because another customer ordered it from the factory but refused to accept delivery once it was on the dealer's lot. I just happened to drive by and saw it parked all by itself near the side of the building. Stopped by to look at it, and after the salesman called the customer with a "now or never" offer, I ended up driving it home. Dealer was happy that they could unload it and I was happy because I saved a little cash.
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Be aware, the early production 2012 had engine (head I think) issues. Look around for tickiing engine threads, they are everywhere.

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I bought a new 2012 JKU and I had the head problem. Dealer took care of it when I took it in with an engine code. Took them 2 days to replace the head and I have never had any problems with it since. The dealer also stated and showed me on the paperwork that if the head on the engine ever goes bad, they warranty a replacement head 100% for the life of the Jeep! I thought that was very decent of them!
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Don't get the 2012 because of the exhaust being under the driveshaft and only having 1"in between.
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Don't get the 2012 because of the exhaust being under the driveshaft and only having 1"in between.
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TeraFlex JK Exhaust Spacer Kit for 2012 Driver and Passenger
Exhaust spacers are needed for all 2012 model JK Wranglers using TeraFlex suspension kits with 3 or more inches of lift. The spacers are installed between the driver and passenger head pipe flanges and the flanges of the cross pipe, which moves the exhaust cross pipe rearward. This prevents contact between the front driveshaft and the exhaust cross pipe during suspension down travel.
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Good info on the '12's. And the exhaust. Thanks all keep it up!
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Bought a used 2013 Sahara with 15k miles, big bucks off cost of new. Let someone else pay the depreciation.
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hey everyone! i currently have a TJ but plan to upgrade to a JK in the future and have some questions. What years should i look for and what problems should i look for. Not looking to purchase a new JK it will be used. Thanks

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I just bought a 2014 JKU Sahara with every available option for about 1% under invoice, about $38,800.. A lesser equipped JKU 12 Sahara with about 15k miles was being sold for about 35k.. I've researched this a lot and I agree that these things hold their value incredibly well.. If you do the math, that's roughly a 10% depreciation hit over 2 years.. I can't think of another vehicle that holds its value like these do.. I say that because if you needed to unload the payment and sell the rig in 2 years, you'd have about 8-10k in equity.. Most new cars you are upside down after 2 years..

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