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Old 01-19-2014, 01:52 AM   #1
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Looking for advice

Hello everyone. Long time reader first time poster here.

I am finally getting close to pulling the trigger on a new Wrangler Unlimited.

I am however stock on a few things trying to figure out what to order and what not to, so I am looking for some input.

The Jeep will me mostly my daily driver with some offroading. I have always liked how Rubicon looked as well as all the extras that you get with it. I am not planing to upgrade the suspension and tires any time soon. I am afraid that if I get anything other than Rubi I will regret it later.

So here are my questions:

1. Is the Rubicon X option worth getting?

2. Should I get 3.73 or 4.1 ratio?

3. How is the Nav system? Should I get it or use the aftermarket?

All the input is greatly appreciated.

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Welcome to the forum!

1. Any special edition Jeep including the X, Sahara, Rubicon, 10A are worth getting if you like or at least will use or keep the options included in the package you are paying for. The options that Jeep packages together are a good value because they would cost more is purchased separately. However, in many cases like the bumpers on the Rubi X you can buy something equivalent or stronger for less. If you plan on replacing many of the parts included in the package then it is not worth it. In that case, you might as well start with an Sport and build it to your taste.

I have a 10A and I liked every option included except maybe the red paint but my wife likes that.

2. I specifically looked for 4.10 but 3.73 is fine as long as you don't go too much larger on tires. If you are not sure get. It cost a lot more to change gears later.

3. This one is really subjective to your needs. Audiophiles and sound freaks strongly prefer other products. The 430n and 730n are pricey compared to what you can get elsewhere but every feature works with everything else in the Jeep including the steering controls and the unit is not fancy or have any color changing blinking lights or graphics but it works very well. You can find them on ebay. I also like it because it does not draw attention. I run doorless frequently and in the big city I want as little attention to the stuff in my Jeep as possible.

I hope you find the right Jeep and continue posting in the forum.

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:05 AM   #3
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Thank you very much for you feedback. I do not see myself replacing the things that come with the X, but just wanted to make sure that the options are worth the price. They definitely make the car look nice.

I have been looking around for different options that are out there at the local dealerships, and it seems to be very rare to find a Rubicon with Body color hardtop and fender flares, so I will most likely have to order one, which is fine since I can choose exactly what I want in it. This is why I just want to make sure I will not miss something later

How much of a difference is there between the 4.1 vs. 3.73 gears as far as gas mileage, performance, and highway driving?
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For what is is worth---I declined the NAV and use a Garmin. the garmin was $169 with lifetime free maps and traffic---has bluetooth and I can use verbal with it.

My wife got NAV with her Elantra and her friend got it with a Mazda. Both are sorry they did not save the money and use a portable. The manuals for the onboard NAV are more complicated than need be. I would much rather use my portable in my wifes eleantra than her onboard

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Old 01-19-2014, 02:17 PM   #5
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I for one like the NAV while it does have its quirks it's one less thing to have to pull out stick on windshield with extra wires dangling while wheeling
You can save many trails on hard drive also


Plus one for factory NAV
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Whoa watch it with the "c" word! Guys around here are pretty sensitive about their jeeps being referred to as cars.

I was looking for a Rubi with matching fenders/ hard top too, but I ended up finding a great deal without them. If you are going to order the Jeep, and plan on upgrading to 35" tires, I would definitely go with the 4.10 gears.

Btw do you know about the Tread Lightly discount? If not do a seach, it can save you some money.

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:43 PM   #7
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Thanks guys for all the input. I did see that about the "c" word but it was too late for me to edit the post. Won't happen again

I will definitely look in to the Tread Lightly discount. Thank you.
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If you do happen to find a Jeep that you like on a local dealer lot you can try to do what I did. I found an identical Jeep on a competitors lot and sent both dealers an email. With one email I had the price dropped from $37k to $31k. The local dealer matched the other dealers offer, but they weren't happy about it. The beauty of the email is that the offer is in writing.

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Plus one for factory NAV
Plus one more for factory NAV. The 430 unit is Garmin based.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:36 PM   #10
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Yep, just did. Sent an email to three dealerships today. Lets see what happens tomorrow.
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Yep, just did. Sent an email to three dealerships today. Lets see what happens tomorrow.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:59 PM   #12
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Looks like I will have to get it built based on what I want. I have gotten the following quote today:

MSRP is $43,715
Invoice: $40,829
Price Offered: $40,496

What do you guys think, can I do better?
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That's 1% under invoice, that's a good deal. Other guys reported getting 2-3% under invoice, but I don't think that's the norm.

If it's the Jeep that you want I would jump on it.
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Hello everyone. Long time reader first time poster here.

I am finally getting close to pulling the trigger on a new Wrangler Unlimited.

I am however stock on a few things trying to figure out what to order and what not to, so I am looking for some input.

The Jeep will me mostly my daily driver with some offroading. I have always liked how Rubicon looked as well as all the extras that you get with it. I am not planing to upgrade the suspension and tires any time soon. I am afraid that if I get anything other than Rubi I will regret it later.

So here are my questions:

1. Is the Rubicon X option worth getting?

2. Should I get 3.73 or 4.1 ratio?

3. How is the Nav system? Should I get it or use the aftermarket?

All the input is greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:04 PM   #15
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Placed an order today for an Anvil JKURX. The wait should be fun.
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That's 1% under invoice, that's a good deal. Other guys reported getting 2-3% under invoice, but I don't think that's the norm.

If it's the Jeep that you want I would jump on it.
Just to point out...2-3% under invoice is easliy the norm.

Most people use a Chrysler Affiliate Discount (such as Tread Lightly....I got mine through my job). With that discount, you can charged no more than 1% below invoice. So 1% below invoice is the starting point.

Pat@Fields had gone into great detail about how the discount works. Basically, when you use the discount, Chrysler rebates the dealer 2% of the invoice price. 1% of the goes to the dealer, and 1% goes to the buyer.

Holdback is roughly 3% of the invoice price. So basically, if you use the discount, buying at 1% below inoice means the dealer keeps all of the holdback plus an additional 1%.

The discount is why so many people buy at 2-3% below invoice. Pat has a banner up top. A no haggle 2% below invoice with an Affiliate discount.

I forgot where I ended up at.....something like 3.6% below invoice.
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My dealer would not budge below 1%, but if I could get a Tread Lightly discount somehow that may work. Any thoughts?

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