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Old 08-21-2012, 10:49 AM   #31
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Check out this thread... might be your issue.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...at-181506.html
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:09 PM   #32
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Check out this thread... might be your issue.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...at-181506.html
Thanks! Great thread but mine is not leaking there. It seems to be at the door sill on the passenger side, the tower on pass side and the same on the driver front.

They replaced the seals on everything including the freedom tops and it is still leaking bad. I am going to forward the info to my guy at the dealership, just so he can check that too.

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Someone said that installing the mopar door sill guards cures the issue. I have them, and have never had a leak.
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Someone said that installing the mopar door sill guards cures the issue. I have them, and have never had a leak.

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I may mention that to my service guy. They even have in the notes sent to Chrysler that the leak moves each time they fix it. LOL I do not think I have ever heard someone actually say "Oh My" when reading notes about a vehicle LOL... my case manager did LMAO I think some is really wrong with my Jeep
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:27 PM   #35
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You are not alone. I picked up my brand new JKU on Thursday evening and drove it home in the heaviest rain we have had here for some time. When I got home the passenger side floor was saturated. The carpet was almost floating yet there was no sign of any water entering the vehicle.

It's going back to the dealer tomorrow. I hope this isn't going to be an on going thing.

Just to clarify. When I say passenger side I mean left side. I'm in Australia.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:07 AM   #36
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You are not alone. I picked up my brand new JKU on Thursday evening and drove it home in the heaviest rain we have had here for some time. When I got home the passenger side floor was saturated. The carpet was almost floating yet there was no sign of any water entering the vehicle.

It's going back to the dealer tomorrow. I hope this isn't going to be an on going thing.

Just to clarify. When I say passenger side I mean left side. I'm in Australia.
Sorry to hear.

WOnder if it is a flaw in the passenger design? Seems to b mainly the pass. side, regardless of left or right hand drive. Just a thought.
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:54 PM   #37
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Just got off the phone with Chrysler and my case manager told me, "Looks like they cannot fix your Jeep, but the service manager said he could not do anything and for me to look in my Lemon Law booklet for more help." I told the lady that this was between Chrysler and me, not the service manager and she said she did not know waht to tell me.

I called hte Florida Att. General and they actually have a program there where they hold your hand and walk you through everything. And I was informed that CHrysler doe not send lawyers to arbitration in Florida, they send a worker from the Orlando office.

Before filing a claim and sending in that paperwork to Chrysler, I decided to call the dealership and talk to the guy Chrysler put on the hot seat and we had a long talk and he basically said it was out of his hands and I agreed. He did however say he thought he had the leaks figured out. He is going to keep it one more day then see what happens. If I get it back and it is fixed, I will be happy!!!!! If I get it back and it leaks, I will file paperwork and Chrysler will have ten days to try and fix it.

I have to admit, the dealership has been really cool and they have tried and tried to fix the issue. It has to be a design flaw ...has to be.

Will post updates!
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My Jeep is in for the 10th time. I explained to the service rep that my Jeep after an hour of rain. He didnt believe me, so I showed him the video. Right at the 49 minute mark you can see water pooling along the bottom of the passanger door, then it spilled over onto the floor. Yesterday the dealership call saying they need to hold onto the vehilce and get "guidance" for chrysler. The last three times they told me they cannt recreate the leak.

I got with a lawyer after my 4th attempt to get it fixed, Kimmel & Silverman. Last week they sent a letter stating it in court right now for discovery and that chrysler has 14 days to respond.

The lawyer told me until the issue is settled, Im to keep taking the Jeep back everytime it starts to leak and if I can take pictures with date and time stamped.

I now have a mountain of pictures and paperwork. I just hate buying a $37,000 vehicle with these problems.

With the Lemon Law nothing comes out of your pocket, money wise. Look into it and good luck! PS. Dont wait...time can be your enemy.
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My Jeep is in for the 10th time. I explained to the service rep that my Jeep after an hour of rain. He didnt believe me, so I showed him the video. Right at the 49 minute mark you can see water pooling along the bottom of the passanger door, then it spilled over onto the floor. Yesterday the dealership call saying they need to hold onto the vehilce and get "guidance" for chrysler. The last three times they told me they cannt recreate the leak.

I got with a lawyer after my 4th attempt to get it fixed, Kimmel & Silverman. Last week they sent a letter stating it in court right now for discovery and that chrysler has 14 days to respond.

The lawyer told me until the issue is settled, Im to keep taking the Jeep back everytime it starts to leak and if I can take pictures with date and time stamped.

I now have a mountain of pictures and paperwork. I just hate buying a $37,000 vehicle with these problems.

With the Lemon Law nothing comes out of your pocket, money wise. Look into it and good luck! PS. Dont wait...time can be your enemy.
Well that is just crazy about leaking after an hour. But it is good to know. I have almost a year left to make a claim and if it is not fixed this time, I will be doing just that. Enough is enough! I think I have been very patient and I am about done. I guess we will see after I get the jeep back today (if I get it back today)

Thanks for the info and also, where are you located? I a curious if I do have to do this if I should use the attorney general or hire a lawyer.

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Old 08-24-2012, 05:37 AM   #40
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They still have my Jeep. They were able to re-create the leak. The dealership called saying they need to keep the Jeep until they can get some answers from Chrysler.

Im in the York/Harisburg PA area.
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Got my jeep back this morning and so far no leaks. They said they readjusted all the seals. We will see what happens. They told me they have no idea what else to do should it leak again.

I am going to hold off and see what goes on during this storm we are about to get hit with. If it is going to leak, it will do so during this storm.

Fingers crossed!
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:29 AM   #42
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more leak info

My 2 cents. Had an '11 soft-top, in for leaks 8 times, still no fix, many issues, new leaks after dealer 'fixed' others. Got a '12 soft-top , 6 mos later wet pass. floor. BUT Not in every rain. http://www.wranglerforum.com/images/smilies/nonono.gif

Did snooping.... I park going 'down-hill'. looked like it was coming into the car at where the pass door meets the foot well, exactly where the 'v-notch' is on the bottom of the door opening. I assuming this notch is to handle water run off. Observed the flexible foam seals that meet at the top of the door frame by the windshield had 'moved', whether by heat and/or putting top up or down. My thought here was that it allowed much more rain to enter the door frame drainage system then designed for. I repositioned those to better cover the outward edge of the area they sit in. Bottom line. It seems that as water is channelled down inside the door frame when it rains, this 'notch' cannot handle a heavy rain or large amount of water and then the 'back-up' then runs up over the lip and into the foot well.

Dont know if this is something faulty, or is the door surround seal to 'tight' against the door frame and not letting the water escape via the notch as designed, or because of the mis-aligned foam letting to much water in the drain system.

Bad design on those pieces of flexible sticky foam, to much heat/wind etc and they 'move' easy.
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:38 AM   #43
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my leak pics

here are 2 pics related to my post. One is of the 'mis-aligned' foam piece on top front of the pass door frame. The second is of the water coming in and over the pass door frame and headed to the pass floor. Unfortunately, I took these pics after it had stopped raining and the 'stream' into the car was drying up.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:02 AM   #44
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So are the dealers giving you guys loaner cars? Or are you paying for rentals?
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #45
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Dang! I didn't even know I had a leak!! 1 1/2 in. of water on the pax side. Look like I have water coming through the plug under the dash. Even the pax seatbelt is wet! (from inside the reel) Not good.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:23 PM   #46
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I actually have a life time warranty on mine so I have a rental from day one. I was in a new Chrysler 300. Actually a really nice car.

We ahve a big storm coming in and I will know by next week if there are leaks or not.

I spoke with this other lawyer and she says even if the jeep is fixed, I have a claim. We will see after see reviews the docs i sent her.

Good luck guys
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This problem and the ones about a new Dozer Jeep that looks not be painted completely to me is unacceptable.

Also makes me wonder if Chrysler has a Jeep guy here:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...-customer-time
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Just an update. I filed a lawsuit and won. I was able to get money for the damages and keep my jeep. I cannot say what I am doing... will probably trade. I just cannot deal with all the water and mold. I LOVE my jeep and I have had many. I feel that the quality is not what it use to be.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:54 PM   #49
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:: enter LOUD explicit here ::

i can't figure out where the water is coming in either... it appears it's running down the passenger side door by the "B" pillar. they best fix this STAT. unacceptable... lemon law is nice and all BUT I LOVE MY JEEP!

This suck MEGA bad. will keep yinz posted after the dealer tomorrow.
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Been told here its a manly off road machine engineered for greatness over large boulders if you want leak free buy a (name your "foo foo" suv) but your cahones will shrink to the size of mustard seeds if you do.
My dealer told me that a Jeep is a off road vehicle and that they all leak. My 94 YJ never leaked at the soft top with half doors in the 12 years that I owned it. My 2013 with half doors leaks at the passenger door behind the windshield frame. The water drips on the dash and the door and runs down the door seal and on the passenger floor. The dealer told me that the leak has been fixed twice and is now back in the shop again for the third time for same leak. I think that the water is coming in under the windshield frame soft top seal and making it appear that it is leaking at the door seal. The dealer says that the leak is the door window seal. They are having the factory rep coming in again for a answer and or a fix.
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It sounds crazy however I was very excited about ordering my 2013 Jeep and after reading of a few nagging issues I am starting to wonder if I want to go through with the purchase.

I am not sure about others here but at 37k dollars this will be the most I have spent on any vehicle in my life and I am 44. I honestly get so frustrated of reading about these leaking Jeeps. It is a damn door for gods sake and auto makers have been making them for many years. Others can do it with no leaks why cant Jeep?

After doing some reading it appears this has been a problem for many years. It also appears that Jeep has not really changed anything to solve this. Yes they are off road vehicles I know however again with most well over 35k the owners should not have to worry about a wet interior.

I still plan to buy my new Jeep and take my chances however something tells me I will Miss my old Toyota reliability.
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Doesn't matter if it's an "OFFROAD VEHICLE." It shouldn't leak if it's sealed up. So, if it keeps leaking, there is a flaw in something that they are doing.

I've had door adjusted, seals replace, stiffener installed, areas sealed, etc. I do believe I still have a leak since I cleaned my vehicle last vehicle & found that the top & bottom floor mats were wet & the carpet. Don't know how long it was there for.

But, if you want something that will fail & leak go buy something made in china or hong kong! Spending 20k+ on something you shouldn't have such an issue. But, doesn't really matter the amount you spend. It's the quality of the material & work & research!
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...and so it was...

two hours after dropping her off, dealer calls and says; "we can't figure it out. come pick up your rental."

oh boy
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:06 PM   #54
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...and so it remains...

rig been at dealership for two whole days now. door seal replaced and who knows what else... she still leaks. Chrysler call center, erroneously has already closed my case... had that reopened... i have a feeling this is going to turn into a drawn out issue. wow

on a side note, my HUGE 4 door 4.7l RAM loves to drink the gas!
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day 6.... no OlllllllO
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It sounds crazy however I was very excited about ordering my 2013 Jeep and after reading of a few nagging issues I am starting to wonder if I want to go through with the purchase.

I am not sure about others here but at 37k dollars this will be the most I have spent on any vehicle in my life and I am 44. I honestly get so frustrated of reading about these leaking Jeeps. It is a damn door for gods sake and auto makers have been making them for many years. Others can do it with no leaks why cant Jeep?

After doing some reading it appears this has been a problem for many years. It also appears that Jeep has not really changed anything to solve this. Yes they are off road vehicles I know however again with most well over 35k the owners should not have to worry about a wet interior.

I still plan to buy my new Jeep and take my chances however something tells me I will Miss my old Toyota reliability.
I wouldn't panic. There are bound to be vehicles with issues, and going to a forum on the internet related to that specific vehicle will make the issues sound like a lot more.

My Jeep doesn't leak. It's a soft top. The top has been up and down a few times before the cold weather hit. It went through Sandy with no extra moisture inside.

It sucks for the people who have these issues, but it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen to you.
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day 6.... no OlllllllO
My Jeep has now in been at the dealership for the last 11 days for it's water leak. For a total of more than 30 days in the shop for a water leak.
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Mine was leaking like crazy but not any longer. I bought four tubes of weatherstrip sealant by 3M and glued all of my door seals to the doors. They were just press fit into their locations. No more leaks.

The water would get under the seal at the top and run out where ever it could.
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Mine was leaking like crazy but not any longer. I bought four tubes of weatherstrip sealant by 3M and glued all of my door seals to the doors. They were just press fit into their locations. No more leaks.

The water would get under the seal at the top and run out where ever it could.
Under the top of the windshield header seal? That is where I think that mine is leaking from.
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No, top of the door. The header could do the same if there are gaps in the sealant (If there is any) under it. It seems the standard adhesive is a foam strip with adhesive on both sides, if it is bunched or lifts water will get under it.

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