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Old 07-25-2014, 04:04 PM   #1
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Manual JK in mud

I know you are not suppose to shift a manual JK while stuck in mud. My question is if you have a manual transmission and your going through mud and forward progress stops.


Do you attempt to shift it into reverse and back out?


Or


Do you clutch less shift it into neutral and call for a strap to be pulled out?

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Old 07-25-2014, 04:06 PM   #2
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What is it you think will happen if you shift into reverse while stuck? I hadn't heard that one before, and have been doing it for decades.

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Better to be pulled out than to dig yourself into a hole and make it worse.
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Did this last week...ended up buried to the doors. I used the clutch and tried rocking it out several times with no luck, just buried it further. Had to have some buddies with winches come rescue me. Jeep is fine after a 2 hour bath.

here is my white Jeep, and my rescue party that got me out.

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Old 07-25-2014, 04:50 PM   #5
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Better to be pulled out than to dig yourself into a hole and make it worse.
Well sure, but what's that got to do with it being a manual? The OP seems to imply this is manual-specific advice.
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Well sure, but what's that got to do with it being a manual? The OP seems to imply this is manual-specific advice.
The only thing I recall about shifting/not-shifting is about losing forward momentum. Once you are at a rest and alternate shifting back/forward do not get you free, get used to the idea you've going to need some assistance.
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What is it you think will happen if you shift into reverse while stuck? I hadn't heard that one before, and have been doing it for decades.
I believe it's the concern with getting mud and grit into the clutch.
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What he is referring to is that there is an inspection hole in the bottom of your trans a few inches long. If you are in deep mud or mucky water and you push in the clutch you may get some mud between the clutch plate and flywheel. This mud has caused some serious clutch problems with some people on here, others have had no problems, maybe not deep enough IDK.
This is one of the reasons you can start your jeep in gear while in four low both forward and reverse. That is what is recommended, if you get stuck do not depress the clutch, just shut it of and put it into reverse than restart without using the clutch.
Personally I think it's another reason why a manual should have a winch on it, shut it off and winch out.
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Personally I think it's another reason why a manual should have a winch on it, shut it off and winch out.
Always the best solution.
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What he is referring to is that there is an inspection hole in the bottom of your trans a few inches long. If you are in deep mud or mucky water and you push in the clutch you may get some mud between the clutch plate and flywheel. This mud has caused some serious clutch problems with some people on here, others have had no problems, maybe not deep enough IDK.
This is one of the reasons you can start your jeep in gear while in four low both forward and reverse. That is what is recommended, if you get stuck do not depress the clutch, just shut it of and put it into reverse than restart without using the clutch.
Personally I think it's another reason why a manual should have a winch on it, shut it off and winch out.
I have never heard this. Not once in my life. Now I have to go try to start my jeep in gear...
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:11 PM   #11
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I have never heard this. Not once in my life. Now I have to go try to start my jeep in gear...
LOL, I have a feeling a lot of people are out in their driveway as we speak doing exactly that.
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Yes I was referring to being in deep water/mud up to getting water inside of the door if it were opened. At that point I would be worried about shutting it off and having water flow up the exhaust. Is this not a concern?

So if forward progress stops: shut it off, clutchless shift to reverse, then start the engine without the clutch?


That's the best option?
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:29 PM   #13
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You guys are over reacting.

My exhaust was under water. It stalled a few times and I restarted it. The bottom of the doors were just above the surface of the water when I got stuck. I went forwards and backwards many many times using the clutch and everything is fine. When I first drove it home the clutch felt a little weird, it was probably wet. After cleaning the Jeep the next day everything felt normal.
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We are not talking of water really but more so mud, and you would have to be in it pretty deep.
It's fine for you to disagree but this is exactly what has happened to some members right on this very board. So as I said before, some have had issues some have not. I suspect if you really tried hard you could get some mud stuck up in there, just have to go deep enough.
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:42 PM   #15
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Maybe you missed my post above, with a picture included. I was buried to the doors in muddy swamp.
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Maybe you missed my post above, with a picture included. I was buried to the doors in muddy swamp.
Nope, but maybe you missed where I said some have issue and some don't, glad you did not.
Here is a thread that you may have missed where the OP did not fare as well.
Clutch not working after getting stuck in the river
Like I said, some have had issues some have not.
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:00 PM   #17
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To the OP, just pick a gear and go, it's not really an issue unless you make it one, I choose not to make it one.

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