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Old 10-11-2011, 08:07 PM   #1
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Smile Manual or Automatic??

Just paid off my 06 Commander and been test driving the 2012 Rubicon tonight both transmissions, and I could live with either. I drive half and half in the city and out in the Shenandoah mountains, some good trails out here, but never really took my commander of road much (didn't want to get stuck). Now it's time to live a little. Is it better to just get the manual?

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Old 10-11-2011, 08:19 PM   #2
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Absolutely... no better interface between driver and machine... a manual so perfectly captures the mechanical nature of the Wrangler. Live axles, choosing just the right gear for the job... it all goes together to make a uniquely Jeep experience unlike any vehicle currently offered by anyone else.

If you like a relationship between you and your ride... go stick.

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Old 10-11-2011, 08:39 PM   #3
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Absolutely... no better interface between driver and machine... a manual so perfectly captures the mechanical nature of the Wrangler. Live axles, choosing just the right gear for the job... it all goes together to make a uniquely Jeep experience unlike any vehicle currently offered by anyone else.

If you like a relationship between you and your ride... go stick.
Thanks, I was thinking the same thing it made me feel more connected to the jeep. And made driving a little more fun tonight.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:52 PM   #4
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There's no way I coulda got a auto. But then again I don't live in the city and don't crawl the mall. Stick with the stick.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:58 PM   #6
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Shifting the manual in my 2012 reminds me of a U-Haul I rented in the 90s. I'm loving it and having a great time! I've even found I can heel-toe it with a little care.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:59 PM   #7
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Naaaa, auto is the way to go. Sit back and R E L A X.
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Naaaa, auto is the way to go. Sit back and R E L A X.
Shifting is relaxing IMO
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:19 PM   #9
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Hard top or soft? 2 dr or 4 dr? wave or not?
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:20 PM   #10
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Just paid off my 06 Commander and been test driving the 2012 Rubicon tonight both transmissions, and I could live with either. I drive half and half in the city and out in the Shenandoah mountains, some good trails out here, but never really took my commander of road much (didn't want to get stuck). Now it's time to live a little. Is it better to just get the manual?

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Old 10-11-2011, 09:24 PM   #11
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Personally, I'd get the one you want. I think that's a pretty solid plan.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:30 PM   #12
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Real Jeeps have round headlights -- and manual transmissions. In today's cruise control society, driving a manual tranny is becoming a lost art.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:33 PM   #13
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6 speed. One of the few vehicles left with a manual. My last vehicle (FJ) was my first and last PRNDL.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:41 PM   #14
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Personally, I'd get the one you want. I think that's a pretty solid plan.
Oh, don't listen to this voice of reason...listen to us! Get a MANual!

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Old 10-11-2011, 09:46 PM   #15
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I live in miami, often get stuck in bumper to bumper traffic, and have to deal with crowded parking lots... i drive a 2dr automatic... if I were in a better place, definitely stick though.
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I live in miami, often get stuck in bumper to bumper traffic, and have to deal with crowded parking lots... i drive a 2dr automatic... if I were in a better place, definitely stick though.
Shenandoahs...Miami...slight difference in traffic patterns I think.

I live/work around DC, home of supposedly the worst traffic in the US and I have no problems. Ok, maybe my left calf is twice the size of my right, but it's all good...it's the new look
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:56 PM   #17
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^^and are you sure you didn't get an auto so one hand would be free so you can wave your spider swatter?
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:27 PM   #18
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more like one free hand to wave to other jeepers and grab the nearest heavy object to smash a spider crawling on my dash lol
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:45 PM   #19
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I drove a manual for most of my life and decided to go with an auto this time around. There are many times I wish I would have went with a manual, the driving experience of an auto can never come close to that of a manual. However, with the traffic in the Philly area, auto is a nice change. It's also nice to be able to drink your coffee, or eat while driving and not having to worry about juggling or dropping your food/drinks whenever you have to shift.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:23 AM   #20
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If you are undecided between stick and auto - get the stick! Jeeps were meant to be stick shifts!
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:40 AM   #21
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Personally, I'd get the one you want. I think that's a pretty solid plan.
^This seems like really good advice.....
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:58 AM   #22
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Get the auto and join the 21st century
Being able to lightly apply power is a great tool
I understand there are some hardcore jeepers that only think manual cj's are the only real jeeps but in the real world
Autos work so much better
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:22 AM   #23
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Lets give the pros and cons of each. Lets do pros and cons of say the new age tech and old age tech AUTO vs STICK.
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My motorcycles give me all the gear shifting fun I need, I love the automatic in my Jeep. I've owned both Auto's and Manuals, and I think everyone should have the experience of owning/ driving both of them in their lifetime.
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Absolutely... no better interface between driver and machine... a manual so perfectly captures the mechanical nature of the Wrangler. Live axles, choosing just the right gear for the job... it all goes together to make a uniquely Jeep experience unlike any vehicle currently offered by anyone else.

If you like a relationship between you and your ride... go stick.
This is exactly how a manual trans should be. Unfortunately, Jeep missed the memo with the current clutch and 6 speed combination. It is lifeless and numb with no real feeling of interaction between driver and machine. They could have achieved the same feel with buttons on the dash to operate the clutch and select the gears. I can't even begin to describe the disappointment I feel when shifting gears in our Jeep after driving our other manual trans rides.

Would I go automatic if I could do it again? I doubt it, especially for the cost, but I would definitely give it at least a little consideration.
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The new jeeps have hill start tech of some sort right? What does it do? I guess its to help with the stick on hills and things.
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Do the old jeeps have any tech or is it just all clutch?
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The new jeeps have hill start tech of some sort right? What does it do? I guess its to help with the stick on hills and things.
It holds the brakes for 2 seconds after you release the pedal to keep the Jeep from rolling down the hill backwards if you don't know what you're doing. Unfortunately, it also keeps it from rolling forwards and makes it a big PITA to drive on hills. We are slowly learning to drive around it because we can't get it to turn off using any of the techniques that have been posted here or are in the manual.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:52 AM   #29
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I went with a manual and NEVER looked back. Its the way the Gods want a JEEP to be.

The 'hill start' is ok,...... but I still like using my "E" brake like I was taught 50 years ago.

I've tried to get the 'hill start' feel but old habits died hard. It does work WELL however.......I just cant get used to it.

I crest a hill with a stop sign, I go for the "E" break-shift into 1st-hold the "E" break and release it as I let out the cluch....its just programed into my aging brain.

FWIW, I think the "E" break in the Wrangler is actually damn good.
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Vehicles these days make enough decisions for the driver...with stick, at least I get to decide which gear I want. And it's just not THAT hard to drive a stick in heavy traffic. Always a manual for me...

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