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Old 08-09-2010, 07:40 PM   #31
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i didnt read the entire thread but...... choose what you like to drive. auto is nicer on the trail but I love stick so Im not gunna buy an auto

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MANUAL! After finding out how STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE it is to rebuild an automatic with my last truck, I will never by another! Manual gives you so many more gear ratio's than with an automatic, with the mixed 4x4ing I do I wouldn't want it any other way. If I'm climbing a rocky and stupidly steep mountain the last thing I want is the tranny to decide to upshift! Or the same on the way down. Auto's have far too many moving parts to break. IMO

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Seriously? did you think that no one has ever asked this before, that you were the only person to ever think "hmm, should I get an auto, or a manual?" Next time search a little.

oh, and auto. (jeeps aren't sportscars, there's no reason for it to be a stick).

I know that might have been harsh, but really. by this day in age, people should all know you search first.
Thank you so much for your kind advices, I am sure that you have never been newies asking stupid questions. Also why did you bother to answer if it's so upsetting ?
Take a chill pill next time.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:13 PM   #34
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What does the car you're driving now have ???

The Auto will make an easier commute for you and as far as mileage goes--you shouldn't buy a jeep if you're worried about mileage

The stick should be learned when you're young at least learned, but

The Auto is superior off road and has no dangers in MUD/WATER/ROCKS, while the standard tranny is very suseptable to trauma, in mud/water!

I'd suggest the AUTO !!

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I have a manual but want to buy a Rubicon and was wondering about witch one to choose.
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Well, you've got about 32 suggestions-none of which will tip the scale for you


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I have a manual but want to buy a Rubicon and was wondering about witch one to choose.
Here's a point, maybe not the final, but a point-

If you're married/GF, can they drive a 4x4 stick and engage/disengage the xfer case--If "NO"

----------------------GET AN AUTOMATIC---------------------------

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Well, you've got about 32 suggestions-none of which will tip the scale for you

Here's a point, maybe not the final, but a point-

If you're married/GF, can they drive a 4x4 stick and engage/disengage the xfer case--If "NO"

----------------------GET AN AUTOMATIC---------------------------

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Thanks mate for your time and advices, I will let my other "Half"(beautiful wife) have the last word and probably go for an Auto.
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Thank you so much for your kind advices, I am sure that you have never been newies asking stupid questions. Also why did you bother to answer if it's so upsetting ?
Take a chill pill next time.
The point you're not seeing is that this is a question of personal preference that gets asked a million times. Out of a hundred responses you will get 50 of each. This is about the equivalent of asking us if you should get the blue one or the green one.

I think every hobby has a version of manual vs. automatic. I'm a cigar smoker and I also frequent a cigar forum. On there the question is whether to store cigars with the cellophane on or off. There is no right answer, just a personal preference. Therefore whenever the question is asked there are always 50 saying on and 50 saying off.

Just as a friendly warning, don't start a thread about waving.
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The point you're not seeing is that this is a question of personal preference that gets asked a million times. Out of a hundred responses you will get 50 of each. This is about the equivalent of asking us if you should get the blue one or the green one.

I think every hobby has a version of manual vs. automatic. I'm a cigar smoker and I also frequent a cigar forum. On there the question is whether to store cigars with the cellophane on or off. There is no right answer, just a personal preference. Therefore whenever the question is asked there are always 50 saying on and 50 saying off.

Just as a friendly warning, don't start a thread about waving.
Thank you, but what Is "waving"?
Ps: I keep my Cohiba without cellophane.
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Thank you, but what Is "waving"?
Ps: I keep my Cohiba without cellophane.
You know, waving. It's customary to wave at other Wranglers on the road. People start threads that they waved to someone and someone else didn't wave back.

Even though we can't get them in the US (legally), everyone knows that real Cohiba's don't come wrapped in cellophane!
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Well, you've got about 32 suggestions-none of which will tip the scale for you




Here's a point, maybe not the final, but a point-

If you're married/GF, can they drive a 4x4 stick and engage/disengage the xfer case--If "NO"

----------------------GET AN AUTOMATIC---------------------------

JIMBO
I would actually get the stick at that point so she CAN'T drive my Jeep!!

I have no intentions at this point to ever buy another automatic no matter what kind of car/truck or Jeep it is. I drive 40+ miles one way to work and in traffic on the way home. Never once did I find the manual to be a hassle.
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You know, waving. It's customary to wave at other Wranglers on the road. People start threads that they waved to someone and someone else didn't wave back.

Even though we can't get them in the US (legally), everyone knows that real Cohiba's don't come wrapped in cellophane!
Correct.
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I would actually get the stick at that point so she CAN'T drive my Jeep!!

I have no intentions at this point to ever buy another automatic no matter what kind of car/truck or Jeep it is. I drive 40+ miles one way to work and in traffic on the way home. Never once did I find the manual to be a hassle.
I do like manual as an European we drive 95% of the time with manual but my wife prefer automatic as she would be able to put her lips stick while driving...;-)
I may keep the manual for me and buy the Rubicon auto for her...
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On every other kind of off-road vehicle I would suggest an automatic. Although it is easy to install the "third hand" throttle kit, and it allows you to showcase your traction control skills, it is very obviously a workaround for the faults of the manual transmission.

However, JK has a uniquely Chrysler-quality auto, so-called "42RLE". I received my recall notice for the HOTOIL yesterday (the jeep is two months old, why didn't they fix the HOTOIL recall before selling it?). The manual is going to be cheaper to fix and I suspect there's going to be a tranny rebuild in my future. For that reason, manual is preferable in JK, in my personal opinion.

At least you researched the issue, and I didn't. I assumed it was just another auto.

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I'm a cigar smoker and I also frequent a cigar forum. On there the question is whether to store cigars with the cellophane on or off. There is no right answer, just a personal preference.
So do you leave them in the cellophane or out? Seriously, because I have a small humidor box and would like some insight.

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You know, waving. It's customary to wave at other Wranglers on the road. People start threads that they waved to someone and someone else didn't wave back.

Even though we can't get them in the US (legally), everyone knows that real Cohiba's don't come wrapped in cellophane!
Thanks Daggo,
I saw that post last week but no one had a blast at him for asking the question. I don't understand why this guy(carstupid or something like that) had a major blast on my question. I don't know yet how this forum is working but I will learn and try not to annoy you guys with stupid or repeated question.
Thanks for your advice.
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So do you leave them in the cellophane or out? Seriously, because I have a small humidor box and would like some insight.

I leave them out of cellophane and keep the fine wooden leaf that come in the cigar box in the humidor for a fantastic smell.
By the way, it's true ,the Cohiba doesn't come in cellophane.
Hope I could help:-)
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Are we still talking about whether or not one should go "through" manual doors?
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I leave them out of cellophane and keep the fine wooden leaf that come in the cigar box in the humidor for a fantastic smell.
By the way, it's true ,the Cohiba doesn't come in cellophane.
Hope I could help:-)
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I agree. I prefer them naked. You can store them in the cello if you prefer. They will age perfectly fine since the cello can "breathe." It is best to choose one way or the other though, since the cello can be abrasive and damage the wrappers of other cigars rubbing against them.

That's one of the reason I take them off since some of the cigars I smoke apparently don't come with cello.
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Any suggestions for a good smoke..not too $$$ and not to big. I hate the huge cigars. Most of the cigars I smoke on occasion are the smaller ones that come in tins, or a little bigger.
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Thanks Daggo,
I saw that post last week but no one had a blast at him for asking the question. I don't understand why this guy(carstupid or something like that) had a major blast on my question. I don't know yet how this forum is working but I will learn and try not to annoy you guys with stupid or repeated question.
Thanks for your advice.
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This is usually a pretty friendly place. If it seems like someone is attacking you, it's most likely a misunderstanding since it's hard to tell tone when reading on the internet. Let me be among the first to officially welcome you. It will be fun hearing about some of your wheeling experiences down under.

I would love to take my Wrangler on a tour of the outback. My wife is an avid wildlife lover and would be in heaven at such an opportunity. I'm sure Hilldweller, who enjoys expeditions, would also like to swap stories with you.
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On every other kind of off-road vehicle I would suggest an automatic. Although it is easy to install the "third hand" throttle kit, and it allows you to showcase your traction control skills, it is very obviously a workaround for the faults of the manual transmission.

However, JK has a uniquely Chrysler-quality auto, so-called "42RLE". I received my recall notice for the HOTOIL yesterday (the jeep is two months old, why didn't they fix the HOTOIL recall before selling it?). The manual is going to be cheaper to fix and I suspect there's going to be a tranny rebuild in my future. For that reason, manual is preferable in JK, in my personal opinion.

At least you researched the issue, and I didn't. I assumed it was just another auto.

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Thank you Pete, I have been told that auto was better in sand and manual was good for full control of the situation. As new Jeep owner, I did buy a manual but now I would like to get another one, Rubicon, and that's why I am asking otherwise I am happy with the manual. 50/50.
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This is usually a pretty friendly place. If it seems like someone is attacking you, it's most likely a misunderstanding since it's hard to tell tone when reading on the internet. Let me be among the first to officially welcome you. It will be fun hearing about some of your wheeling experiences down under.

I would love to take my Wrangler on a tour of the outback. My wife is an avid wildlife lover and would be in heaven at such an opportunity. I'm sure Hilldweller, who enjoys expeditions, would also like to swap stories with you.
Thank you very much Daggo, I will soon post pictures of an outback trail, wildlife and would like your comments about the beauty of this country.
Thanks again for your welcome.
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The JK auto has had many issues with over heating in sand. I would highly recommend an aftermarket tranny cooler.
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I would actually get the stick at that point so she CAN'T drive my Jeep!!

I have no intentions at this point to ever buy another automatic no matter what kind of car/truck or Jeep it is. I drive 40+ miles one way to work and in traffic on the way home. Never once did I find the manual to be a hassle.
^^^I second this

I had no issues letting my 2000 saturn sl be the 'teacher' car for some relatives and friends... only my brother (who has a 6 speed) and my mechanic have driven my tj year-to-date
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Thank you very much Daggo, I will soon post pictures of an outback trail, wildlife and would like your comments about the beauty of this country.
Thanks again for your welcome.
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I will eagerly look forward to it! Lately my wife and I have been spending our Saturdays at Assategue Island. Assateague Island National Seashore (U.S. National Park Service) It's a national park that is known for it's wildlife, especially it's wild horses. We have gone the past 3 Saturdays and are planning on going again this week,

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Any suggestions for a good smoke..not too $$$ and not to big. I hate the huge cigars. Most of the cigars I smoke on occasion are the smaller ones that come in tins, or a little bigger.
You will have to find "Your" cigar one has to try a few to get the one and only that will suit you but,
You can try Romeo y Juliette they come in three sizes or in between and also one of my favorite is the Punch very nice and mild.
Let me know when you found yours.
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So far I like the Romeo y Juliette, especially the maduro. I also like some of the flavored ones from CAO and Acid. I just bough a Helix the other day. Waiting for the right time to light it up.
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So far I like the Romeo y Juliette, especially the maduro. I also like some of the flavored ones from CAO and Acid. I just bough a Helix the other day. Waiting for the right time to light it up.
Always find the right time, place and people when you light one. Smell its smoke and enjoy it very slowly and never poof too hard or it will get very bitter.
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I will eagerly look forward to it! Lately my wife and I have been spending our Saturdays at Assategue Island. Assateague Island National Seashore (U.S. National Park Service) It's a national park that is known for it's wildlife, especially it's wild horses. We have gone the past 3 Saturdays and are planning on going again this week,
Is that a wild Appaloosa? You are so lucky.

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