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Old 08-09-2010, 11:05 PM   #61
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I forgot to mention, when we go to Assateague the first thing I do after setting up our canopy and chairs is to light up a cigar! I prefer a milder cigar first thing in the morning and usually select a Padilla Hybrid Robusto. I have to agree the R & J's are a fine choice though. Late morning I will usually follow up with a more medium bodied choice from Torano and then a more full bodied smoke after lunch. Pehaps this week I will bring one of those "special" cigars that don't come in cellophane!

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Old 08-09-2010, 11:08 PM   #62
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The point you're not seeing is that this is a question of personal preference that gets asked a million times. Out of a hundred responses you will get 50 of each. This is about the equivalent of asking us if you should get the blue one or the green one.
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I think every hobby has a version of manual vs. automatic. I'm a cigar smoker and I also frequent a cigar forum. On there the question is whether to store cigars with the cellophane on or off. There is no right answer, just a personal preference. Therefore whenever the question is asked there are always 50 saying on and 50 saying off.

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Cellophane comes OFF of boxes that go into the coolidor. Cellos stay ON individual cigars in the humidor.

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I forgot to mention, when we go to Assateague the first thing I do after setting up our canopy and chairs is to light up a cigar! I prefer a milder cigar first thing in the morning and usually select a Padilla Hybrid Robusto. I have to agree the R & J's are a fine choice though. Late morning I will usually follow up with a more medium bodied choice from Torano and then a more full bodied smoke after lunch. Pehaps this week I will bring one of those "special" cigars that don't come in cellophane!
This is LIFE!! it's too short to be waisted.
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I forgot to mention, when we go to Assateague the first thing I do after setting up our canopy and chairs is to light up a cigar! I prefer a milder cigar first thing in the morning and usually select a Padilla Hybrid Robusto. I have to agree the R & J's are a fine choice though. Late morning I will usually follow up with a more medium bodied choice from Torano and then a more full bodied smoke after lunch. Pehaps this week I will bring one of those "special" cigars that don't come in cellophane!
A lot of good cigars come wrapped in cellophane.
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One of the things I have had to forego with my Jeep is smoking while driving. The manual makes it difficult and the top down and doors off makes it impossible!
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A lot of good cigars come wrapped in cellophane.
I certainly agree, but there are some "special" ones that never come wrapped in cellophane. If they are, or if the top of the box is made of glass, you can be sure they are fakes.
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I am a cigar smoker as well, however I prefer the non traditional cigars like Drew Estates Tabak Especial or Acid Kuba-Kuba's. All outstanding if you ask me. I have not christened the Jeep with a cigar just yet, because for me there are certain things that need to take place before i partake.... They include calm serene surroundings, mellow music, Crown Royal or beer of choice (Red Stripe or Coors Light depending on mood) and good company!! It will happen pretty soon I imagine! LOL!

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I forgot to mention, when we go to Assateague the first thing I do after setting up our canopy and chairs is to light up a cigar! I prefer a milder cigar first thing in the morning and usually select a Padilla Hybrid Robusto. I have to agree the R & J's are a fine choice though. Late morning I will usually follow up with a more medium bodied choice from Torano and then a more full bodied smoke after lunch. Pehaps this week I will bring one of those "special" cigars that don't come in cellophane!
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God made the jeep perfect, then the arc-angle put an automatic transmission in the lineup and ruined the whole jeep thing. Thank God that they still make a few perfect jeeps every year. Nuf said.
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Old 08-22-2010, 08:49 PM   #69
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I was thinking the same^^^. Im sick of my 5 speed and its only been 2 years, alot of clutch wear trying to crawl over rocks and logs. I wish i had an auto..
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Auto is for people who can't drive. I am on my 5th wrangler, and it has always been difficult to find a manual. It's because of all you auto lovers out there, the new lazy America. In any car I buy, I always look to get a manual. I think I have only had 2 cars in my life that were auto. Having a stick allows you complete control of your engine's power. To me this is not a debate.........
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Yea, teach, watch out for those arc-angle's !!


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God made the jeep perfect, then the arc-angle put an automatic transmission in the lineup and ruined the whole jeep thing. Thank God that they still make a few perfect jeeps every year. Nuf said.
You're right, there ain't many that look like mine, although I wouldn't say it was perfect-with the modified auto, just very adequet !!

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JIMBO I tried to keep my words to a minimum!

A search on my username and manual transmission will return a treasure chest of writings.
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Heh Heh, maybe so, but you may be putting your investments, in the wrong treasure chest !!


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JIMBO I tried to keep my words to a minimum!

A search on my username and manual transmission will return a treasure chest of writings.
Oh, yea, my auto never jumped out of gear (JOG)

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Old 08-22-2010, 09:06 PM   #74
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I prefer manual and i drive in traffic. It's called: increase your driving distance, listen to some Slayer and stick to a lower gear. and Auto in snow, ice and or anything concerning is a bit worrisome to me, because I can't select my own gears... But it's all on your driving style and what you prefer.
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I think you have to be pre-disposed to driving a standard or want to do so with enthusiasm. I've only had two cars with automatic and love driving my standard jeep. I drive it with confidence off road too.

To the OP, don't let anybody try and convince you that there is any advantage to an auto transmission off road...except eating a cheesburger...now that may be an advantage...I hear drinking a coffee maybe an advantage as well. But you couldn't sell me on that.
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I do not think this is true anymore. Jeep lists the Wrangler auto and manual exactly the same for MPG, and I think that's fairly common these days.
All I know is that I cruise without using any gas on almost every hill I go down or when coming to a stop a few thousand yards away and that adds up big time to more MPG. Also being able to stay in a lower gear while going up hills means your engine is not drinking gas quickly when the auto shifts prematurely and your not to the top yet. Going up hills in to low of gear means goodbye gas.
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Ya know, they're still arguing whether or not Pat Garrett, actually shot William Bonney (Billy the Kid) and

This auto/manual argument will go on, probably not quite as long as that argument, but

If you think you're the best with your tranny--good for you, stick by your guns and stand up and hollar !!

I've driven 3sp/4sp/5sp and 6sp sticks in Ford/Dodge/IH/Nissan/jeep and my most successful off-road treks have been in Dodge ramchargers/JKU Rubi--deep snow/sand--Autos

So thats my story and I'm sticking toit, I don't really care what you think about the auto, so I'm outta here !!

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I love to have sticks for sports cars or underpowered vehicles, but never would run one with the off roading I like. I live not too far from Moab, Utah and I love crawling over the sandstone rock. Some trails can be very steep and if you need to stop and you have a stick...well you can get into trouble really fast. Auto is the best for what I do, but down under I am not familiar with the type off road adventures you like. If it is steep stick with an auto. If it is not steep either a stick or an auto will do. Buddy of mine lived in Perth for a couple years and loved it there. Beautiful place to be.
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^^ What did they do in situations like that when all jeeps were standard? That IMHO is a weak excuse to own an automatic. Learn how to drive a standard.
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Auto is for people who can't drive. I am on my 5th wrangler, and it has always been difficult to find a manual. It's because of all you auto lovers out there, the new lazy America. In any car I buy, I always look to get a manual. I think I have only had 2 cars in my life that were auto. Having a stick allows you complete control of your engine's power. To me this is not a debate.........
I have a manual, but this is an ignorant statement. Heck, some exotic sports car manufacturers dont even make manuals anymore. Its a preference, not something to thump your chest over.
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I love to have sticks for sports cars or underpowered vehicles, but never would run one with the off roading I like. I live not too far from Moab, Utah and I love crawling over the sandstone rock. Some trails can be very steep and if you need to stop and you have a stick...well you can get into trouble really fast. Auto is the best for what I do, but down under I am not familiar with the type off road adventures you like. If it is steep stick with an auto. If it is not steep either a stick or an auto will do. Buddy of mine lived in Perth for a couple years and loved it there. Beautiful place to be.
Thanks mate, I understand that at the end it's a matter of own choice. Therefore, I believe my beautiful wife will have the last word on this one(not only on this one) and will go with an auto. Thanks all for kind advices.
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Real men drive manual !
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Auto tranny is for the LAZY...
They should not even offer it as an option - it's a Jeep for cryin' out loud!

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Auto is for people who can't drive. I am on my 5th wrangler, and it has always been difficult to find a manual. It's because of all you auto lovers out there, the new lazy America. In any car I buy, I always look to get a manual. I think I have only had 2 cars in my life that were auto. Having a stick allows you complete control of your engine's power. To me this is not a debate.........
tell you what bub, you come sit in 2 hours of I-95 gridlock with a manual and see how "lazy america" really is. my jeep is my daily driver and that means i don't want the hassles sometimes associated with a manual trans. not to mention i hated the clutch and the seating position required to put the clutch pedal to the floor on the manual jk i test drove. i've had several sport/muscle cars, all manuals, none of them stock. i'll guaran-damn-tee my "lazy" ass can still out powershift and out drive 99% of the people out there.
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They should not even offer it as an option - it's a Jeep for cryin' out loud!

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I have had both manual and auto. I used to think that I needed to have a manual because most people out there hae manual, why be the guy with the automatic. Does it mean not having manual makes you not a hard core offroader? I enjoy comforts of an automatic and I was to do it all over again in the beginning I would go Automatic!!
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They both do the same thing, so who cares. Just buy what is best for you.
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I learned to drive over 50 years ago on stick shift. I've put thousands of hours off road with all kinds of rigs using all kind of trannys.

Rather that 'being in control' with a manual, it just as much a matter of being the slave OF the manual, as you must maintain proper gear etc for the conditions/RPM and so forth.

Being a geezer with a variety of my own mechanical 'issues', auto does what I want when I want whether I'm involved sensually with a cheeseburger or not!

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